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    Danno Ferrin
    @shemnon
    Not to PoA, to the particular construction of Clique. If the timeout were 5 seconds and with 15 second blocks there would be a lot less orphans. but IIRC it’s 200ms or something.
    ZZip
    @zharjac_twitter
    That's what I meant actually. Thanks for the clarification.
    Adrian Sutton
    @ajsutton
    It's a random delay after the block period - but it can randomly pick 0 as the delay and even the maximum is pretty short. It really needs a fixed delay plus some random component (which wouldn't break consensus so clients should probably just go implement that).
    Nikita Chebykin
    @chebykin
    Hi! How could I obtain around 300 GöETH? I want to demonstrate a bonding curve token case and will lock most of these ETHs on the contract.
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen
    pmed...
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen
    done ...
    verteres
    @verteres
    BONJOUR
    Talha Cross
    @soc1c
    Hola
    Nicolas Law
    @nicolas-law
    Hey @verteres , a fellow french comrade ? ;-)
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen
    comment allez-vous @verteres
    Tom_Wang
    @TomWang10
    can anybody send me some test coins: 0xB4b9d7f97a5556ECCE7DEa124828A1ba28DA8E89
    Thanks very much!
    @dekz @sorpaas @rojotek
    Adrian Sutton
    @ajsutton
    @TomWang10 you can use the faucet at https://faucet.goerli.mudit.blog
    Tom_Wang
    @TomWang10
    I need 20 coins least
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen
    4what?
    Tom_Wang
    @TomWang10
    for testing eth2.0:(
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen
    hold on for eta 20 min. heating up my "coin-box-system"
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen
    ...when goerli was younger, it never not take so long
    apologies for the delay
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen
    @TomWang10
    done
    Tom_Wang
    @TomWang10
    Thanks!!!!
    @TomWang10
    you are welcome,
    happy testing!
    superphiz
    @superphiz
    Is there a formal procedure for requesting a lot of goerli ether? I'd like to get 10k if that's doable. My ultimate intent is to develop hardware guidelines and I'd like to start now with developing a process.
    Talha Cross
    @soc1c
    @superphiz DM your address
    and explain why you would need 10k for that or why reducing the gas price is not sufficient
    Bryant Eisenbach
    @fubuloubu
    testnet faucet idea: Uniswap-style pool for testnet tokens (except no one cares about getting their tokens back). 1) Set up pool contracts that are aware of their counterparts on other ETH networks 2) Validators/miners/others put their earned tokens into the contracts to give liquidity 3) User sends their testnet ETH (maybe even mainnet ETH?) to these contracts referencing a target ETH network, and get a receipt that is replayable on the target network's contract in order to pull ETH out. 4) source and target ETH networks dynamically rebalance their liquidity pools, and thus their relative prices shift according to the supply/demand curves using the x*y=k formula, meaning liquidity never runs out, and people can always buy/sell testnet tokens for each other easily. Note that this is a sybil-resistant mechanism which allows permissionless access to any testnet ETH needed. Relies on altruism of large holders such as network validators/miners. Mainnet pool could even be funded a little bit to encourage new users on testnets to buy mainnet ETH from trying testnet applications (imagine you try a testnet version of Uniswap and make a bunch of trades for testnet ETH, then port that over to earn your first 0.01 ETH for gas money)
    wasn't sure where best to put this idea, and it would be a lot of work, but it would be pretty cool
    could do a https://gitcoin.co/requests/ to have it funded for their global hackathon as an idea to build
    Tomasz Kajetan Stańczak
    @tkstanczak
    @fubuloubu this would be much desired - getting testnet tokens is definitely a problem to solve
    we will be happy to contribute Goerli ETH to the pool
    setup a gitcoin request, I am sure that many businesses had bad memories of acquiring test ETH
    and they will fund the fix for it
    Bryant Eisenbach
    @fubuloubu
    I've definitely heard people say they would actually buy testnet ETH in large quantities for real ETH, if given the chance.
    I still don't quite understand why the Genesis block reward couldn't be set to something like 10k ETH per block and then have all the ETH the validators earn dumped into a faucet where people could take as much as they want
    Probably a bit too late for that now though lol
    Adrian Sutton
    @ajsutton
    @fubuloubu Faucets only give our a small amount of ETH primarily to avoid spam attacks. If you can easily get large amounts of test ETH you can send a lot of really expensive transactions and cause problems.
    Bryant Eisenbach
    @fubuloubu
    Ah, there it is, staring me right in the face. The answer is always DoS attacks lol
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen

    @fubuloubu
    as there are such "needs" as visible above from superphiz answered by soc1c,
    there is a way of request it directly from one of the validators,
    with a "good" explanation why a large amount of GöETH is needed,
    i guess and also assume that if the explanation is logic and helpful for most participants of goerli as testnet
    even larger amounts are getting transferred being completely aware of the DoS-attack possibility--

    btw.
    i was not even aware of the fact, that people would buy testnet-ETH for real ETH by any chance,
    this is a testnet (:

    Bryant Eisenbach
    @fubuloubu
    I've heard at least 3 or 4 different people say that, and numerous people on Twitter trying to collect. I think someone even tweeted once "I would pay $20 for 100k tETH"
    as long as the collateral is priced or is hard to obtain, it should still pass on DoS-resistance even through an exchange
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen
    @fubuloubu
    thanks for explaining,
    i still wonder about the mentioned facts
    but i am also happy that we have sort of "inner resistance" against such large amount requests,
    as any validator acts responsive/responsible with given testETH/GöETH,
    such "large-amount-request" would lead me into a discussion with another validator (:
    roninkaizen
    @roninkaizen
    are even dapp developers present in this channel?
    Talha Cross
    @soc1c
    or odd dapp developers?
    Bryant Eisenbach
    @fubuloubu
    I may count as the latter
    Jaro
    @chompomonim
    We have created our L2 payment system for Mysterium.Network and now planning to go into more public testing on testnet. I'm thinking to use Gorli testnet before we're ready to go mainet. Is it possible to get bigger amount of testnet tokens (~1k) so we could create more advanced testing pattern by opening/closing payment channels and registering our "Myst identities" etc.
    Talha Cross
    @soc1c
    @chompomonim what's your address?
    Jaro
    @chompomonim
    0x65769196bC5b0108d5909239574476dFcF0f3a7d
    Talha Cross
    @soc1c
    sent
    Jaro
    @chompomonim
    @soc1c Thank you very much