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11th
Jan 2015
Giovanni De Gasperis
@giodegas
Jan 11 2015 13:11
I am exploring stack manager settings. Trying to use a location name with my own town in Italy, L'Aquila, but it does not take it, not valid. Shall I submit a bug?
were?
Jason Hawks
@nbq
Jan 11 2015 13:12
I am not sure it will accept the '
Giovanni De Gasperis
@giodegas
Jan 11 2015 13:13
well, it should, don't you think?
Jason Hawks
@nbq
Jan 11 2015 13:14
honestly, its like a doman name, like website.com, you cant use it there either
Giovanni De Gasperis
@giodegas
Jan 11 2015 13:17
ok, the same ASCII-centered world again...
Jason Hawks
@nbq
Jan 11 2015 13:18
Think of naming your HiFi domain as naming a real domain, just minus the .com, .net, .etc - it supports that because its sort of a convention that has been used in terms of “internet naming” for years. Though nothing I say is official as I do not work for HiFi, I just am trying to translate the reasons as to why it is like that more than likely - which is the same with place names
Giovanni De Gasperis
@giodegas
Jan 11 2015 13:30
ok cool. But let me understand, have these location names to appear in some kind of URL now or later on?
Jason Hawks
@nbq
Jan 11 2015 13:35
Well, domains as we know them now will be replaced by place names, which will cost from this point forward. Domains do work right now but the actual switch has not been flipped yet to use Places instead of Domains. It will work mostly the same as far as I know as now like for a domain where you hit enter, it gets a box you type your location in and you type in where you want to go.
like the client will work (may already, have not checked) to where hifi://place will work like the perverbial http://place.com
To quote their email release I received about the official introduction to place names: At the moment you can only register the name; very soon you will be linking them up to your locations and domain.
Jason Hawks
@nbq
Jan 11 2015 13:43
I should say domains are not going away so to speak, just the way they are named, think of it like the domain will be reachable with a unique identifier as a domain is your “land” that you host (in a nut shell). The “Place Name” will be the pretty hifi://prettyname
Giovanni De Gasperis
@giodegas
Jan 11 2015 14:25
ok thank's, btw I was referring to location names. Shall locations names have the same literal constraint of the place names?
Giovanni De Gasperis
@giodegas
Jan 11 2015 15:34
now I selected the floating island from the stack manager, got a temporary name, clicked on the proposed URL hifi://... the client opened, but I do not see much, just a white ball underneat and some cubic wireframes.. why?
also some floating trees out of nothing...
no ground plane
Jason Hawks
@nbq
Jan 11 2015 17:12
Yeh I think you are on the windows client, that never looked right for me on Windows, on Mac it worked fine, or reversed, I forgot which, also locations like for “my locations are sort of like landmarks that show up on a listing for all
Try the club, not the floating sky thing and it will work a lot better for now, it showed up on all clients I tried
Philip Rosedale
@PhilipRosedale
Jan 11 2015 18:16
@giodegas our feeling is that not allowing things like apostrophes (or spaces) in placenames is better than the frustration of having almost identical placenames (l'aquila and l aquila or laquila) being distinctly registered and causing tons of conflict with people registering very similar ones and being confused or malicious. This is the same decision that was made with hostnames (the individual pieces of domain names separated with dots), and it seems like the right choice here as well.
On another note, please let me know if the content (the floating island under the trees every showed up for you - it should have downloaded and shown up when you first connected to your stack manager.
Jason Hawks
@nbq
Jan 11 2015 18:19
I had just noticed it like late last night and had not had a chance to file a bug on it, but I noticed one OS showed the land under the trees fine, the other did not
mac build 1600 even, woot
Giovanni De Gasperis
@giodegas
Jan 11 2015 18:44
@PhilipRosedale I understand for placenames that have to be exchanged via URL, but the LOCATION name rules could be more "liberal"?
@PhilipRosedale I an running Interface build 1600 on a Mac Book Pro Retina, Mac Os X 10.9.5, still see only trees, no ground plane, no textures. I will now switch to the club enrivornment
morrisford
@morrisford
Jan 11 2015 18:51
I just installed 1600 on a mac and every time I try to teleport interface hangs. I backed down to 1574 and things work again.
Giovanni De Gasperis
@giodegas
Jan 11 2015 18:55
the bar club shows up, but then It hanged with build 1600 on Mac.
Jason Hawks
@nbq
Jan 11 2015 18:56
yeah 1600 has movement issues
in world chat seems to confirm
i have it too and crash on move and stuff, the windows build also seems to have issues
Giovanni De Gasperis
@giodegas
Jan 11 2015 18:58
how can I document the crash and send logs to developers?
Philip Rosedale
@PhilipRosedale
Jan 11 2015 19:59
@giodegas Currently we use the worklist to manage bug reports, but are thinking about other approaches as we get more folks here. We know what the crash is with 1600, and are working on it. If you like, you can download and install build 1597, and it will work.
Jason Hawks
@nbq
Jan 11 2015 20:10
1597 still crashes me when I try to delete an entity