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Ian
@ianfixes
:worried:
stevewillows
@stevewillows
is there a way to create custom layouts? All I really want is for the main window to be on the right instead of the left
stevewillows
@stevewillows
my god. Thanks @ianyh for your killer work! This is excellent.
Ian
@ianfixes
You just want the "Tall Right" layout
Qays H. Poonawala
@qayshp
I don’t remember how or when I stumbled across amethyst, but I’ve been meaning to install it for well over a year, and finally did today.
Just wanted to say that I have no idea why I waited so long. This is spectacular!
Liam Newman
@bitwiseman
@qayshp Give it a week and then try turning it off for an hour... It feels surreal.
Ian
@ianfixes
After a security update on my work machine, Amethyst appears not to work. I'm trying to solve a few problems at once.
1) I was previously running Amethyst out of Xcode 9.0 beta 3 (which should give you some idea of how long I had been logged in and using Amethyst). After rebooting, I'm getting some Swift compile errors
2) I tried switching to the beta 0.12.2b2 (60). This launches but doesn't appear to affect anything. Checked the "Enable apps to control your computer" setting under security/privacy, and it includes both Xcode and Amethyst.
Unsure of how to proceed.
Ian
@ianfixes
@ianyh any ideas?
I'm up and running on Xcode Version 9.4.1 (9F2000) and neither that nor the 0.12.2b2 (60) is able to move my windows around
Ian
@ianfixes
running Amethyst out of Xcode now works, not sure what changed T_T
Liam Newman
@bitwiseman
@ianfixes Time of Day? :)
Ian
@ianfixes
I literally closed the binary and hit the play button on Xcode
switching back now just to see
The binary doesn't work, although interestingly it prompts me to open system preferences (where it's already listed...)
Ian
@ianfixes
Happy to debug the system while it's in this state. But as you can see everything looks to be in order... except Xcode works and /Applications/Amethyst doesn't https://imgur.com/a/4Pi6Cn5

Sanity check steps I just tried, based on that screenshot:

  1. unlock settings
  2. remove Amethyst entry
  3. open /Applications/Amethyst
  4. receive system prompt telling me if I want to grant permission to Amethyst, I have to do it in system preferences
  5. Open system preferences via that dialog
  6. an entry for Amethyst (unchecked) has been added for me
  7. check the box next to Amethyst
  8. close system dialog

expected behavior: amethyst works
actual behavior: amethyst does not work

interestingly, I just switched to Xcode... that worked
switched back to /Applications/Amethyst, and now that works too!
Ian
@ianfixes
I suspect that perhaps Amethyst needs to be restarted, and maybe there was some thread that never quite quit? I'm uncertain as to what might be going on
Ian Ynda-Hummel
@ianyh
Might be something weird with accessibility permissions competing between Xcode and the rest of the system.
Also, hello, I am back.
Ian
@ianfixes
would it be possible to make a "test" button in the settings that called for the settings window to be moved by a certain amount, and see (via subscription) whether the OS accomplishes that move within 3 seconds?
Ian
@ianfixes
Now that the mouse integration has hit the 12.1 official release, what would stand between that and having it be on by default? (or at the very least, removing "experimental")?
Ian Ynda-Hummel
@ianyh
Removing the experimental is reasonable at this point, but I want to wait until I can make a Mouse tab in preferences.
We could probably make it the default. Might be confusing as it wouldn't overwrite existing users.
Ian
@ianfixes
For the time being I've switched to the 0.12.1 (61) binary because I'm pretty happy with how things are working mouse-wise at present
Yutian Li
@hotpxl
hi everyone. thanks for this very nice project, have been dying to find a xmonad equivalent on mac that just works
just got a quick question, i notice action are triggered when i lift the key, not when i press them down. is there any reason for this? kind of makes it feel less responsive tho
Qays H. Poonawala
@qayshp
How can I view/collect logs? I seem to have an occasional Amethyst crash, and don’t see log files in any of the usual locations (~/Library/Logs, /Library/Logs, dmesg, or /var/log)
Ian Ynda-Hummel
@ianyh
Hm. If they aren't in ~/Library/Logs/Diagnostic Reports/ I'm not sure where they would be.
The logging mechanism for Amethyst right now isn't particularly robust and requires some hacking to get output from.
It doesn't lend itself well to long lived use, so occasional crashes wouldn't be feasibly caught.
If you are crashing it's probably this, though ianyh/Silica#10
Daniel Pittman
@slippycheeze
@ianyh, hopefully I understood your suggested feedback path, and I'm sorry if not. I use Amethyst pretty much exclusively to give me "all maximized, all the time" on my mbp. Literally the only layout enabled is "fullscreen". I like this a great deal. The one shortfall is that floating windows -- system preferences most notably -- are positioned top-left at the (0,0) of the workspace. (eg: avoid the dock and menubar.)
That feels off-balance to me, and I'd prefer if they defaulted to being centered horizontally? That'd put them in the, no pun intended, center of attention when they pop into view, given I mostly use Alfred to launch them, and that pops up in, also, the middle of the screen. (centered horizontally, ~ ten percent or so from top vertically, I think? anyway, attention is at center-top of the screen during launch.)
Does that explanation make sense? did I miss an existing enhancement request, when I combed through trello and github issues? Is there another way I should be requesting this? oh, and, thank you so much for the app. It just works, which I find wonderfully refreshing and useful. :)
Ian Ynda-Hummel
@ianyh
@slippycheeze It's been on the docket for a while, but I haven't managed to get to it. This is the issue to track it. ianyh/Amethyst#437
Qays H. Poonawala
@qayshp

Hm. If they aren't in ~/Library/Logs/Diagnostic Reports/ I'm not sure where they would be.

Ah yes, the crash reports are there! Thanks

Also, Amethyst “Focus Follows Mouse” no longer seems to focus on Google Chrome windows. May be due to the big chrome update, as I didn’t notice it before the update. I know it’s labeled as experimental, so, to be expected. Works fine with all other apps I am currently using.
Ian Ynda-Hummel
@ianyh
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@qayshp Could you open an issue on GitHub for ffm not working for Chrome?
Qays H. Poonawala
@qayshp
sure
Qays H. Poonawala
@qayshp
opened ianyh/Amethyst#754 , if there’s anything else I can help with (testing, experiments, logs), just tag me here or on the issue.
Ian Ynda-Hummel
@ianyh
Thanks.
Qays H. Poonawala
@qayshp

Also, small inconveniences with FFM on that I’ve noticed and generally accepted as part of the trade-off:

  1. When using extensions that have hovering menus in Google Chrome (specifically LastPass), the menus close as soon as the mouse moves, regardless of where the cursor is (on the menu or not). Currently, I just resorted to using keyboard arrows.
  2. The same type of thing happens with iStat Menus, a macOS menu bar app that has a hover over when activated. I’ve tried adding the app to always float in Amethyst preferences, but that doesn’t help.

Mainly sharing to see if there are any workarounds I’m missing.

Tiling is so useful, but I must say, I also love FFM. Thanks for putting it in there!
Ian
@ianfixes
the Arduino IDE window (java app) seems to be 100% ignored by Amethyst