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Ian Ynda-Hummel
Changed it to never expire.
hi anyone online here
does amnethyst disable itself after a while of not using the computer or should i be worried
Aryan Prodduturi
what exactly does amethyst define as a small window? I'm referring to the "float small windows" option.
William Cherry

First off, thanks for putting in the time to create this great app. I finally can stop rearranging windows manually :)
Q: How do I enable debugging/logging to diaganose an issue I'm having with layouts working


The app [version 0.15.5 (92)] works as advertised on my personal laptop running MacOS 12.1 but on my work laptop also running MacOS 12.1 layouts don't seem to work at all (e.g. the windows don't move or rearrange in any layouts)
I'm not getting any errors and I've checked the system logs and don't see anything obviously wrong. I'm 98% sure its something that IT has installed on my work laptop that is causing the issue.

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Abdisalan Mohamud
Anyone else use an ultrawide monitor? I really don't like when I only have one window open and it takes the full space. Has anyone figured out how to make it half size and stay in the middle? I've tried using the other presets but not luck
My current solution is to have a useless window on the left while in 3Column Middle mode
Gerry Hernandez
Greetings, everyone! I was hoping to get some help with setting up my environment for Amethyst development. The setup script seems to be outdated and I can't find any other documentation. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Gerry Hernandez
Sooo.... Not to be too spammy/annoying, but I made an issue for this. Does anyone else build Amethyst from source and have it working in XCode? I could really use some help getting started. I'd like to hack on it for a bit and explore this as an alternative to Yabai.
Forgot to paste this: ianyh/Amethyst#1194
Jonathan Kelley
Does anyone have issues where their windows just disappear randomly?
I can't tell if it's a macOS issue or an amethyst issue
The window itself just becomes completely transparent but the buttons still work
Hey guys - is there a way to use a specific layout as default? I have an ultrawide monitor and my preference is the 3Column Middle orientation. Is there a way to have the main focused window always in this orientation & dimensions even if there are no other windows open?
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Hi! is someone else having issues with small windows being thrown to the background?
like if i open the preference panel before i can do anything it gets pushed to the back
@gerryhernandez you can install it from Hombrew
Louis Pilfold
Hello friends! Thanks for this excellent software. I'm trying to understand resizing using the mouse. Using the "tall" layout I seem to be able to resize the columns left and right, but I don't seem to be able to resize the right hand side row up and down. Am I doing something wrong or is that not doable?
Louis Pilfold
I'm also having an issue where the windows in a layout reset to their original places when I change workspace, switching away from where I positioned them.
anyone else having an issue where amethyst hangs when trying to switch windows around? use to be a option shift z would fix it, but now it can hang for 30 seconds or even longer until it snaps windows to their respective places. m1 macos monterey
Hey guys, I'm trying out macOS after using Linux (Xubuntu) for ages, and horrified by the terrible, inflexible UI. Will Amethyst provide a task-switching feature that would me to exclude certain apps (minimized apps, apps on other Spaces)?
My workflow on XFCE was to set up a separate desktop for each project, then switch between them. I regularly had 4-5+ desktops, each running 10+ apps, so I really don't want to see them all in a single app-switcher menu.
Blake Barr
Hi, I'm a long time Linux user and while Amethyst is not i3, it's the closet thing I have found. My frustration is that when I open up new windows (whether it be new browser windows or a terminal) it moves it to a different space, and not the current one which is what I want. Any way to fix this
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I assume I am not the first person to notice that if you are programming and running a mac app and you've hit a breakpoint, amethyst stops working until you contiune?
anyone else seen this?
David Storm
I have been using Amethyst for a while and wondering if there is a way force float on top. I have this problem where if I float an important window the main pane or any pane can easily obscure it....
@draglabs afloatX is your only option.
Juanra Núñez
Hi guys, for some reason the app stops working randomly. I'm in 12.4 using v0.15.6. Does any of you have the same issue?
Hi all, I've been using amethyst for a few months now and can't live without it. I'm looking at swapping to XMonad on my Linux setup, and I was wondering if anyone's aware of how close to Amethyst's default keybindings it is by default, or if there's a guide on how to set up XMonad so it's similar to Amethyst?
Dusty Quince
Hi guys. Just downloaded Amethyst. Sweet project. On the front page on Github, it mentions Layouts can also be enabled/disabled to control whether they appear in the cycle sequence at all. I'm trying to get at the 3Column-Middle layout, but I guess it isn't enabled in the cycle sequence. How do I enable that? This might be documented somewhere, but if it is, it's not immediately obvious where
Dusty Quince
Ah. Found it.
Mohit Mayank
Is there a way to disable the pop-up (is it called HUD?) that shows the current layout when switching spaces?
Juan M
Hi all, I'm facing 2 issues: controlling which of the main windows is the "real" main and swapping focused with main when using 2 mains
Anyone here use Amethyst with Single Site Applications like Unite/Coherence/Fluid? The SSA windows seem to have a weird behavior in that they don't follow any of the pre-defined layouts in Amethyst. The want to get 'out' of the pre-defined layouts for some reason. Not sure if this is a known issue or limitation with Amethyst? I'd like to be able to control the SSA App Windows just like any other window. FWIW, PWA's work fine, but unfortunately (for no fault of Amethyst), PWA's don't work with uBar (https://ubarapp.com/) - the dock replacement I need...
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After being forced off linux and missing xmonad; I am very, very happy about amethyst. with a config file it is almost totally there for me.

one thing I am missing is being able to have a "virtual" space per monitor. my mental model would be to have e.g. "coding on space 1", "work browser space 2", "chat space 3" etc. and I could throw those spaces to whichever monitor I wanted; typically having "coding-space(1) on main monitor" and "browser-space(2)" on secondary monitor; but sometimes swapping out the browser monitor for chat-space-3 (or something).

in osx; the spaces seem to either be, all monitors together for each space, or individual spaces per monitor, but they are bound to the monitor; so I can't throw "space 1" to an arbitrary monitor.

unclear if this is my not fully understanding the tool; or a feature not implemented, or no one else does it this way, etc.


i have adapted by still using the same mental model but now my "coding space" is across all the monitors simultaneously. this is mostly okay but less flexible.

ideally (for me) there would be another layer of abstraction within amethyst to work around the way osx treats spaces; with amethyst having some notion of a virtual monitor; allowing "screens" to be thrown between (or simply assigned to) virtual monitors, and then virtual monitors could be thrown between the real osx Spaces.

Ian Ynda-Hummel
If I understand you correctly this will be fixed in an upcomibg version. It’s in beta if you want to try it.
@ianyh can you elaborate? I am running the beta actually (this was the only way I could get the config file)

ah nevermind, I see this PR: ianyh/Amethyst#1209

i will see if i can understand it


after looking I don't think it solves my core problem. the issue still remains that spaces are bound to "real" monitors. if I have two monitors; with separate spaces for each monitor, and a total of 6 spaces. osx will bind spaces One Two and Three to one of the monitors; and Four Five and Six to the other. In this example, we can only see at most one space at a time from each monitor; which is the crux of the problem.

So, if I have all of my "coding stuff" on space 1; and my "work browser" on space 2; in the above setup they could never been side by-side without swapping everything per-window to a space on the other monitor.

The core difference from xmonad (to my memory at least) is that when I switch to the equivalent of a "space" in xmonad, the "space" will take the place of the currently focused screen. wheras with amethsyt on osx; when I switch to a new space it will always just swap out the old one at the same monitor.

Ian Ynda-Hummel
Ah, I see what you’re saying.
Yeah, that’s mostly bound by the operating system.
You could conceivably implement it by moving windows around, but that would get hairy fast and has enough impedance mismatch to probably not be worth it.
yeah I don't know anything about OS specific aspect of it; I am not surprisecd to hear that your intuition is that it would be difficult or impossible to get acceptable performance/feel. I am guess this is due to the cost/side-effects of moving a window across spaces?
Ian Ynda-Hummel
The basic idea is that virtual spaces and system spaces are the same in Amethyst as a matter of convenience. If we did try to implement our own virtual spaces we would be implementing something from scratch that manages moving the windows in the virtual space on screen, and those not in the virtual space off the screen. It’s a lot of functionality to build that is at odds with how the OS itself wants to be managing the windows.
Window management on macOS is kind of a hack because there’s no native extension mechanism. We piggyback on some APIs for accessibility and private undocumented functions.

Thanks; I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I have been playing with it a tiny bit to see what things may be piggybacked on to minimize lift/maximize using the OS the way it wants to be used.

I am not sure if it is something that can be controlled via Amethsyst; but by changing which monitor is the primary monitor (the UI way of doing this is moving the white menu bar from one display to another in the System Preferences -> Display menu); I get behavior which could be exploited to get roughly the behavior I am looking for. It would really only work in a two monitor setup; or the third monitor would be out of scope for space-throwing.

So I guess two questions:

  1. Is changing the primary display something amethyst can be given permission for?
  2. Are there APIs available for manipulating space-to-desktop mapping that ametheyst could use?

I ask #2 because I noticed I actually can move spaces from one monitor to another; it is just the active space cannot be moved. However, if the primary display is moved (while each monitor has a separate space) the active space will move from the old primary display to the new primary display (they will swap).

Marcus Ramberg
Hey, is it possible to configure the default width of the main pane for the tall layout in Amethyst?