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    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    You could add some logging around that area to see whether that code is being triggered on your platform. *shrug*
    Mark Hiner
    @hinerm
    oh I misread the source.. I didn't realize how big an #ifdef __APPLE__ block was
    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    In the case of sun.java2d.uiScale.enabled, can we try setting it on the Java side, early? (I.e. before the AWT subsystem spins up)
    Haha, yeah, there is a huge amount of Apple code!
    At least I deleted some of it.
    Mark Hiner
    @hinerm
    it was double confusing because Info.plist on the Fiji update site is platform agnostic
    Mark Hiner
    @hinerm
    @ctrueden @elevans ok we have a java 11 bundle now, with the old one renamed to java 8
    Ulrik Günther
    @skalarproduktraum
    @hinerm @ctrueden super cool you can ship jbr sdk 11! looking very much forward! thanks for your effort!
    Kyle I S Harrington
    @kephale
    @hinerm @ctrueden <3 thank you
    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    @skalarproduktraum @kephale Could you guys download it (for the link above) and see if it works with your stuff, please?
    Note to those following this: the java 11 bundle has the FLIMJ update site enabled, but since it was done on Windows, only the Windows FLIMLib native binary is there.
    Mark Hiner
    @hinerm
    whoooops :( sorry about that
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    ericrg Hello, first time here ! :)
    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    ericrg: I think you're our first matrix user...
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    ericrg Oh !? I don't understand
    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    ericrg: This is a gitter channel. Element recently acquired Gitter, so now I guess they're working on merging these technologies. Within the gitter channel, your messages are being broadcast via the matrixbot.
    ericrg: Which chat client are you using?
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    ericrg Element (ex RIOT)
    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    And how did you find this channel? Do they have some kind of browsing feature?
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    ericrg I explored the public rooms :)
    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    Ah, OK. :+1:
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    ericrg I was looking for something else but It happens I use ImageJ
    ericrg So , I'm here :)
    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    Welcome. :-)
    Be aware we mostly use this chat for developer talk... happy to help with quick user questions, but if you have questions about e.g. image analysis, or other more detailed questions, then forum.image.sc is the best place to go.
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    ericrg I like very much imageJ simplicity (I'm french so I may write some bad english)
    ericrg I may have some questions but they must be very simple ones
    ericrg ... but you may have something else to do than anwser to me 🙂 I'd understand
    ericrg I'd like to have transparency png ...
    ericrg maybe there is a plugin somewhere
    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    ericrg: I don't know of any plugins for working with the alpha channel in ImageJ, sorry. This is a longstanding deficiency.
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    ericrg :D
    ericrg So I go on to open Gimp for that ! :D
    ericrg thanks for the forum link : I'm going to use that
    Jan Eglinger
    @imagejan

    @ctrueden wrote:

    ericrg: I think you're our first matrix user...

    I think we had comments routed via matrixbot in the past already:
    :point_up: March 4, 2018 7:36 AM

    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    @imagejan Ah yeah, I claimed that rather nonchalantly, didn't I.
    Regardless: I expect we'll be seeing it more often, with the Element acquisition.
    Jan Eglinger
    @imagejan
    :smile: :+1:
    ericrg: you can define a transparent color when exporting to PNG in ImageJ. I was using that feature in the past. Please ask on the forum if you still want to do it with ImageJ and need help.
    Mark Hiner
    @hinerm
    @ctrueden what's the difference between https://imagej.net/developer/api/ and https://javadoc.scijava.org/ImageJ1/? And where are they configured?
    Curtis Rueden
    @ctrueden
    For lurkers: the answer to @hinerm's question is that javadoc.scijava.org/ImageJ1 proxies imagej.net/developer/api which proxies mirror.imagej.net/developer/api which mirrors imagej.nih.gov/ij (updated nightly). We determined that the mirroring process did not include the developer/api/package-list file because it wasn't accessible via a chain of links from index.html. We implemented a workaround to hopefully ensure it gets included in the mirror henceforth.
    Wei Ouyang
    @oeway
    Screenshot 2020-10-14 at 11.16.37.png
    Together with @ctrueden we made a prototype for running ImageJ2 in the browser
    Florian Jug
    @fjug
    :point_up_2: :eyes: :point_up_2: Yeah!!! :heart:
    @oeway @ctrueden What works/does not work? How likely is it that one can e.g. run BigWarp in the browser any time soon? Or Labkit? The updater??? #somanyquestions #soooooexciting
    Wei Ouyang
    @oeway
    Most components will work directly if they only do processing, interact with UI. Most of the non-working parts are related to accessing files on file system, manipulating socket, JNI/C++ etc. However, most of them should work after we patch the corresponding classes to make them browser friendly. The loading time is also an issue for now, we need to find a way to support lazy loading scijava components.
    @ctrueden feel free to add
    Wei Ouyang
    @oeway
    Also notice that we are running in a single thread, so the performance is not comparable to native java, however, this might change in the coming year since WebAssembly is enhancing its supports for garbage collection, multi-threading and object support.
    Florian Jug
    @fjug
    Ok, thanks. The single thread thing is limiting, but this is still really crazy awesome! 👏
    Wei Ouyang
    @oeway
    To clarify, you can create multi-thread in java, and the runtime will emulate that with in a single thread.