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    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    like, from inria, in glorious quality
    so I went to bed
    the book it's in is crazy huge, it's like ... bound A-4 plus margins, or something? Maybe it's a B size or something, I don't know
    in the case of this particular paper, it's only marginally important, because the paper that's readily available (the one that cites it in that editgroup above) is strictly superior and describes the entire algorithm ... but of course I didn't know that until I found the paper
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    if you mail it in to us (donate, won't get it back), we will scan it and lend via openlibrary.org. though if it is a weird size it will probably sit in the queue for a while, and the process always takes at least a few months
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    I may at some point, although I've rather been enjoying leafing through it
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    yeah, the situation with scholarly work is that you need read access to everything even if it is garbage, to confirm it is garbage. means the market mechanism for copyright just doesn't make sense
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    looking at 3-D renderings of CAD parts as 1977 state of the art, admiring hand-lettered equations and graphs, etc. :-)
    and even if we allow that copyright has a place and we consider that current publications are just a matter of belonging to some University library or something (a different discussion), in cases like this the publisher is either gone or doesn't care any more
    so like ... the one billion articles my University library has access to don't include this volume
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    this equations-in-braille article is interesting, in one of the other editgroups I just merged: https://fatcat.wiki/release/jpeu3rvjx5byjowo2fmtelbggu
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    that's wild
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    @bnewbold: so I've found a conference that's very influential, the Winter 1990 USENIX (the original Tcl paper was published there, for example), but it doesn't have a Wikidata QID, it doesn't have an ISSN (that I can find), the papers in it don't seem to have DOIs ... what should/could I do with this?
    I'm entering the Tcl paper right now, which has crappy entries in citeseer/dblp/etc. (the fatcat entry will be more complete when I'm done with it in some ways!), but I'm not sure how to handle the container
    like, this is the entire conference proceedings: https://archive.org/details/1990-proceedings-winter-dc
    it's readily available, but I don't know how to handle it
    I handled the individual paper that I'm entering
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    I've done mybest in my in-progress editgroup
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    I think I've extended this editgroup as far as I can, when I try to cross-link the releases with author sand containers created by the editgroup I get 400s
    I'm going to submit it
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu I left a comment before I saw your notes here: https://fatcat.wiki/editgroup/szfubtxhwrgzboa2yxaqjy2fmq
    I suspect I have some bugs in the "edit an existing editgroup" workflow, which I haven't exercised much.
    if it is ok with you, if I get time tomorrow I will merge your edits as-is, then do a separate editgroup doing what I think are corrections
    DBLP sort of knows about that conference, but has no metadata for that year: https://archive.org/details/1990-proceedings-winter-dc
    hah, our copy in archive.org seems like a complete official run! funny that I didn't know about that
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    for the "Winter 1990 USENIX", i'd be tempted to use a general "USENIX Conference" container to start, and maybe put "Winter 1990 Proceedings" in the volume field? though it will not display or "cite" with the correct proceedings. creating a container for that specific proceeding is also reasonable though
    I am really excited to start having these discussions and have the schema/guide evolve over time and represent a community consensus
    a new "container groups" / "container series" entity type is one future path; or containers could be nested; or containers could have a "series" string name; or releases could have a "container_event_name"; etc
    or maybe both the "series" and "event" containers could be container entities, and releases could have two relationships, one "container_id" (implied series) and one "event_id" (implied event)
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    I should probably read that Tcl paper
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    Yeah that file is one of the things I couldn't link
    when I tried, it gave me a 400 error and said that it was a repeated action
    I think USENIX Conference / Winter 1990 Proceedings volume is a reasonable division, feel free to edit/change that
    ... I just tried to add teh file to the release again, and it worked
    creating a new editgroup
    which I won't submit until I hear from you
    (I didn't want to hit edit on the other, I'm not sure what the status of it is)
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    Today we upgraded https://search.fatcat.wiki from elasticsearch 6.x to 7.10. everything is mostly compatible, but anybody using this pseudo-supported service directly should be aware of two quirks:
    • query "total hits" are now a rough estimate by default. the most common symptom of this is total hits being 10,000. you can add the query parameter "track_total_hits" to get the old behavior
    • total hits were previously an integer in the JSON response. now there is an extra layer of JSON object, with the integer at the key 'value'
    also, previously each index had document types; these were deprecated and all documents within an index have the same type, and are all "_doc" for all indices
    Larry Masinter
    @masinter
    hi! I've been looking for software or a service to manage annotated bibliographies for a web site, but having trouble figuring out whether there's anything that quite works the way I imagine
    Larry Masinter
    @masinter
    sort or select by date or keyword or genre (book, reference manual, paper, software/language); include abstracts when available, links to internet archive of actual paper or book when available (or publisher's landing page)
    Larry Masinter
    @masinter
    i have discoveed zotero which seems to be quite wonderful for this.
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    I use org-mode for managing references
    I don't have established functions for selection by date/keyword/genre (although it would be easy with org tags), but I essentially have one outline heading (at level 5, I think, for categories above that) for each work that I'm citing, and that outline heading includes one or more BibTex entries, a URL to the work, a link to a local copy, cross-references to other works in the database as links that can be followed, and notes on the work
    some works appear in more than one place with a cross-reference to their canonical location
    it's not a database, so there's some room for schema errors to creep in, but since no single file contains more than a hundred or so entries it's manageable