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    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    like the fact that there are apparently dozens or hundreds of possible "statements" but I don't see a list or anything
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    I am tempted to pull out some of the fatcat editing features for "creators" and just have a button to "import/update from wikidata or orcid", to avoid duplicated efforts
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    that doesn't seem unreasonable based on what I'm seeing here
    orcid I think you can't create an entry for someone else, though, right?
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    no, but I think it should be the default for individual authors to control their "profile" / metadata. and then wikidata is the escape hatch for editing metadata about in-active authors, or superstars etc
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    yeah, that seems reasonable
    although in this particular case, I think the guy is active
    he just doesn't have an orcid
    he's like ... emeritus kind of status right now
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    like, if somebody wanted to do a research or analytics project looking for authors from a particular institution, country, etc, would be better to "transclude" that metadata from orcid and/or wikidata instead of trying to mirror all that metadata in fatcat
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    yeah I absolutely wouldn't mess with institution/etc. in fatcat
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    you could email him, or librarian at department/institution, to poke about getting an orcid
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    what I want ot know is "is this author that author"
    not "what was the career of this author"
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    yup! thinks could evolve in the long term, but I think it is important to focus on core goal/value and not confuse folks with "is this an author profile sort of thing?"
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    yeah
    in this case I just don't want to search an author name and get a zillion papers from an active author who is not actually this guy
    which is what i'm getting ~everywhere
    this guy is also very active so many of the papers are his
    and he has a researchgate page, and an ACM DL page
    but like ... web searches are rough, dblp is confused, etc.
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    fixed the edit form links
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    nice, saved me a GH ticket ;-)
    Ethan
    @eblanton:matrix.cse.buffalo.edu
    [m]
    @bnewbold: ugh I accidentally created a new editgroup when I wanted to edit ane xisting editgroup
    I don't know how to merge them (or if I can?)
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    for scholar.archive.org, I have swapped the Czech (cs) translation for Korean (ko). Czech was added by request, but nobody ever contributed. Several people have requested a Korean translation, and I am optimistic we will get a large corpus of Korean publications at some point via the regional DOI registrar
    Gerard Meijssen
    @GerardMeijssen_twitter
    Hey Ethan ... based on the Wikidata info there is Scholia .. https://scholia.toolforge.org/author/Q106574752 and https://scholia.toolforge.org/author/Q19989058 it will evolve when things become known at Wikidata.
    @bnewbold I think a next step at Wikidata is to have an identifier for Facat ... do you agree?
    Martin Czygan
    @miku
    @GerardMeijssen_twitter, I believe there is a property (P8608) for fatcat identifiers in wikidata: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P8608
    Gerard Meijssen
    @GerardMeijssen_twitter
    :) Great
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    Microsoft Academic Graph ("MAG") and the Microsoft Academic search service are shutting down at the end of 2021: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/academic/articles/microsoft-academic-to-expand-horizons-with-community-driven-approach/
    a number of other projects build on top of their open metadata. could be an opportunity for Fatcat to be used as a replacement, and attract more contributors?
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    just pushed out a partial Greek (el) translation of the scholar web interface. thanks to Eugenia Russell on weblate!
    Kristoffer Grundström
    @Umeaboy
    Hi! I'd like to translate Internet Archive into Swedish. Who here can add Swedish to Weblate?
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    Hi @Umeaboy! I am the person who can start a new translation.
    We are currently at the limit of number of languages our weblate account allows for a single project. I will get in touch with them about raising the limit, but it could be a couple weeks before we can start a new language
    Gerard Meijssen
    @GerardMeijssen_twitter
    Hey @bnewbold why not consider translatewiki.net, you then get the whole Wikimedia translator crowd as a bonus.
    3 replies
    There is indeed a fatcat identifier at Wikidata so you can link an author to a Wikidata item. EVERY author of a paper is notable enough.. even better having a fatcat identifier is a qualifier as well.. (meagre as a data point.. but hey)
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    @GerardMeijssen_twitter we have been really happy with weblate so far. there seems to be a pretty large community of active contributors, it runs on free software (which we could run ourselves in the future if need be), the interface is easy to understand, the machine translation feature is easy to use, the shared/community translation corpus is large, and it integrates very nicely with our development process. translatewiki.net might have other benefits but it would be a bunch of logistics to switch and I wouldn't want to lose our existing contributors
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    as a heads up, fatcat.wiki is going to be in read-only maintenance mode for about a day some time this week. API and web interface reads (searches, etc) should continue to work fine.
    this is an upgrade of operating system (from ubuntu xenial to ubuntu focal) and postgresql (from 11 to 13), and also sets us up for replicated operation, which should keep the service up during power outages (expected to be more frequent in California this year)
    stencil
    @stencil:matrix.org
    [m]
    Weblate feature such as suggesion on past translation, nearby keys, history, other languages and comments are very useful
    stencil
    @stencil:matrix.org
    [m]
    Their software isn't as polished as weblate IMO, quite a few projects had move d to weblate
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    hey folks, let's please keep the discussion here on-topic. continued comparisons on translation tools could be taken to a 1-to-1 conversation or another venue
    do appreciate the recommendations and input thus far
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    we have started rolling out a citation graph ("refcat") as part of fatcat.wiki: https://guide.fatcat.wiki/reference_graph.html
    billions of references! we include some references from wikipedia to papers, and from papers to open library books.
    planning to improve parsing of citation strings; improve reference matching; and handle reference to general web resources better (eg, showing wayback status/URL and possibly some site-specific metadata)
    feedback welcome!
    Stencil
    @stencil:matrix.org
    [m]
    not sure this is the place, but is there a way to bundle links to research paper, like "Research papers on software development with x library" or "Machine learning in x subject"
    bnewbold
    @bnewbold
    @stencil:matrix.org that could certainly be built on top of fatcat/scholar, and use the corpus to build it. I don't think it is likely to be part of core service/API itself
    https://paperswithcode.com/ is a pretty good start! it would likely be possible to expand that with content from scholar. for instance, I bet there are a bunch of papers mentioning or referencing specific datasets, software, and models, which could be discovered using scholar fulltext search API and/or the refcat citation graph. and then update paperswithcode with that information