These are chat archives for ipython/danger_zone

22nd
Jun 2015
Well now you can pip install austin
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 21:44
well done
Matthias Bussonnier
@Carreau
Jun 22 2015 21:45
thanks flit :-)
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 21:45
I spotted :)
I think you should put a few extra attributes in there
Matthias Bussonnier
@Carreau
Jun 22 2015 21:45
Does flit send you metrics ?
sure but it's 23:45
Pr welcomed :-)
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 21:46
psh, only in Europe ;-)
maybe I will.
I just looked at your repo and saw flit.ini
No, I don't get any metrics from flit
though I could guess that you'd use flit for getting a small package on PyPI quickly.
Matthias Bussonnier
@Carreau
Jun 22 2015 21:51
Still to long imho. Always fails and commit swp file, miss __pycache__ in gitignore, and forget the longdescription-things in flit.ini
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 21:52
well, you don't actually need long description
Matthias Bussonnier
@Carreau
Jun 22 2015 21:52
sure, but I write the Readme.md and forget to link it in flit.ini
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 21:52
ah, right
Well, maybe some enterprising programmer should write flit create
maybe I should add support for general subcommands
Matthias Bussonnier
@Carreau
Jun 22 2015 21:54
in my mind, in my mind...
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 21:54
though it doesn't need to be a subcommand
Matthias Bussonnier
@Carreau
Jun 22 2015 21:54
I'm considering a flit next that auto select the next subcommand to run.
for beginners to walk through each steps.
anyway. 5 to 12:00 (am, or pm i never remember) See you later.
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:05
bonne nuit
a bientot
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:07
12:00 am, counter-intuitively is midnight.
12:00 pm is lunch : )
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:12
yeah, both Matthias and I find it strange that it goes 10 am, 11 am, 12pm, 1 pm
there's an obvious logical fix here, though: 10 am, 11 am, 0pm, 1pm.
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:12
Yeah, it's definitely weird. Do you guys not use AM PM in Europe?
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:13
we do in the UK
I think it's less common on the continent
but I still find it a bit weird
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:13
It makes sense by definition:
"the term ante meridiem (a.m.) means before midday and post meridiem (p.m.) means after midday."
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:14
but 12pm is midday...
not before or after
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:14
Well, the AM PM part makes sense
the numbering doesn't I guess
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:14
ultimately it's because you can't ring a bell 0 times
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:15
Yeah. I like the idea of military time, but am not used to it.
Then you don't even need AM and PM
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:16
I'm fairly used to that, but it feels a bit inhuman to me to say 1700 instead of 5pm
really, of course, we should give all our times in a timezone aware format: 1700+0800
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:27
barf
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:27
or give all times in UTC
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:28
even worse
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:28
2228Z
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:28
We should just reduce the resolution of our time keeping
to
Night, Morning, Before Lunch, Lunch, After noon, Dinner
Sylvain Corlay
@SylvainCorlay
Jun 22 2015 22:29
I mostly use 17
another inconsistency in english is "next Tuesday" . Which, to me, is tomorrow
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:30
I do seriously think we should do away with time zones, sometimes. It would be much easier to keep track of 'in California, people work from 1700 to 0100' rather than dealing with the same numbers meaning different things
yeah, next Tuesday is a fun one
svurens
@svurens
Jun 22 2015 22:30
the easiest solution is to just have everyone give times in milliseconds since epoch. No confusion anymore.
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:30
^ lol, yes
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:31
there's no hard rule that I know of for when 'next Tuesday' moves ahead a week
and IIRC the UK and the US differ on which day a new week starts on
calendars over here seem to show Sunday as the first day of a new week, whereas I think of it as the last day of the week.
(of course, Cambridge weeks officially start on Thursday, because stuff)
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:33
Well, my understanding has always been "This Tuesday" refers to the Tuesday in the current week, past or not. While "Next Tuesday" always refers to the Tuesday of next week.
@takluyver I agree, Monday always feels like day 0, and Sunday day 6.
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:34
yeah, that makes sense. But during the weekend, it's ambiguous whether 'this Tuesday' means the coming Tuesday or the past Tuesday
though it's normally clear from context
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:34
Nah, depends if it's Saturday or Sunday
: )
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:35
what if it's so weekend that you don't even know if it's Saturday or Sunday? ;-)
Jonathan Frederic
@jdfreder
Jun 22 2015 22:35
LOL, then it's next week
just in case it was a meeting or something
so then your weekend's not ruined, because you didn't miss "this Tuesday's" meeting.
; )
Thomas Kluyver
@takluyver
Jun 22 2015 22:39
:P