These are chat archives for janek26/letsteamup-gamedev

17th
Feb 2016
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:35
hello there!
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:37
hey :)
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:37
i saw your post on reddit, decided to have a look
what was going on in this channel
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:37
i thought so, nice to meet you :)
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:38
thanks, same! I'm a dev too btw
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:38
tell me a little bit about your experiences :)
dev like I am, codejunkie, or with knowlage of a game engine? :9
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:40
heh, well, i started coding when i was 8, on a zx specrum. Later upgraded to a 386 with qbasic, and some other stuff. Went to college, did 3 years of java, 1,5 years of c++. First job: 1 year of C#, after that 9 years of java.
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:41
codejunkie
:D
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:41
Havent really coded for fun for some time (damn wow took my time)
*WoW
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:41
haha
so this group/team would code for fun, you can feel free :) you got any experiences with gameengines?
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:42
After Wow met a girl, married, child, and so on. Now would like to reignite some form of home dev project.
Hmm, built a 3d engine with colission detection and basic physics in college, and i have been messing around with building an isometric graphics engine many moons ago
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:43
this would be a good chance i think :) where are you from? :)
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:45
The Netherlands
you?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:46
ahh ok, and your interessted to learn a little bit from unity (based on C#/JS)? Or you dont like to learn some new stuuf? :)
from your neighborhood, germany :)
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:47
Well, i'm going to swtich jobs, and my new job uses C# instead of java. Unity uses c# as language of choice, so that could help me transition over.
unless you want to use unityscript that is
and yes, my github account is pretty bare, i know :)
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:49
i could yeah, i dont know how long you read my comment, but I am very familiar with javascript, so I would prefer that, but its easy to convert in unity
mine too
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:50
and i'd love to one day compete in the ioccc contest: http://www.ioccc.org/
and be able to write absolutely horrific code
:)
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:51
haha :D so your generally interessted in setting up a project?
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:51
try to figure that one out
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:54
wtf man :D I really like clean code, my code is always clean and well commented, I think
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:54
my normal code is not as nasty, i promise
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:55
I hoped that :D
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:55
but i strive to be able to create madness like this example: http://www.ioccc.org/2014/deak/prog.c
:)
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:56
would you prefer unity or fireball/ue4/cryengine?
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 10:56
unity. Again for the C#
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 10:56
ahh ok, im fine with unity :)
but im not a designer, so we have to wait for one :D
what do you think about low-poly games?
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:00
cute and artsy
and/or oldschool
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:02
and easy to design/to render for the computer
I think low-poly would be fine for a first project :)
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:05
hmm, possibly yeah
but you wanted to wait for a designer?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:05
we can also start by ourself
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:07
It is possible; I think an artist is a lot handier to get on board than somebody who decides what everybody is going to do.
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:09
I dont want to manage, I would also do it. Primary I want to code in gameengines again
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:12
i've had plenty bad experiences with 'designer' people who were in fact idea guys with lots and lots of ideas and nothing else, who were intend of pushing trough their dumb idea of the day while ignoring others. That's not what an actual designer does i feel.
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:13
So what do you think are the next steps we should take?
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:13
find more people, preferably with other skills
artists especially
but what we need depends mostly on the project
No need to bring in a networking/server specialist for a single player game :)
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:16
yeah, thats true, but I thought it should be a multiplayer game at least
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:17
did you have anything in mind?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:18
survival games are high atm
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:19
but they are a crapton of work, and when we release they will probably be over the top/ market will be flooded
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:20
thats right, but i thing there are not many low poly surviaval games yet
maybe for a tinyer product a simple, one level, mobile game would be fine
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:22
it could work if it was something different than the usual zombie apocalipse style games
but instead spaceships or something
multiplayer astroids! where others can kill you and steal your ship upgrades :P
just brainstorming
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:23
or maybe lost on an island
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:25
arent half the current games doing that? I dunno, never played any of them honestly
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:25
most are post apocalyptic
space is maybe too far away..
or just like altis life, i dont know if you know that, with fractions of police, rebells, zivilists
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:29
possibly. I was just thinking thatsomething weird/different would be more of a succes than the usual kill or be killed after the zombie apocalipse survival game.
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:29
yeah, think ur right
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:32
dumb idea: all the players work in a company, and the way to progress is to advance further in the company. This would mean that you would have to get rid of your bosses by blackmail, doing your tasks flawlessly, or making sure that your boss fails his tasks.
and so on
and as a boss you'd have to fight your underlings from getting too upperty and making sure they don't mess with you
naturally you'd need other ways to advance, but most of it would be making sure that others will fail, so you can advance
in the company
it's a surval game... but really different
naturally underlings cannot be caught red handed messing with their boss stuff, so this would also mean you will need to be able to shift blame to somebody else
as i said: dumb idea
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:35
i like it :D
really
I really think funny games/unusally games are much better, cause many youtubers will promote them
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 11:36
but it will need a lot of design; doing tasks will need to be fun or people will go 'screw this game'
probably the best idea would be some brainstorming sessions. For example, would multiple businesses be more fun? With double spies and stuff?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:41
could be a very complex game in the end
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 11:47
should the player interact, or maybe its just a decision based game
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:12
hello
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:13
hey man
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:13
i come from reddit
saw INAT post
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:13
yeah, tell me about you, your skills :)
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:14
I dabbed in Blender, Unity
I did C++ in job
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:15
how long? :)
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:15
2 years on the job
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:15
ahh ok so we're 3 programmers right now
we really need some artists, and maybe a designer
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:15
I know some 3D modelling in Blender
I've been learning networking in Unity
and I'm trying to learn animation
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:16
ohh wow
thats sounds great
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:16
cool
got any ideas for a game?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:17
see above :)
where are u from?
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:18
I'm from Canada
survival game eh?
Rust clone
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:19
was an idea yeah
ehm no
we dont wanna clone something
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:20
Just kidding
There are many survival games out
Rust, Forest, Ark,
DayZ?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:21
jep, but you read the idea, close before you joined?#
arma w/ mods :D
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:22
Minecraft
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:22
haha
dumb idea: all the players work in a company, and the way to progress is to advance further in the company. This would mean that you would have to get rid of your bosses by blackmail, doing your tasks flawlessly, or making sure that your boss fails his tasks.
and so on
and as a boss you'd have to fight your underlings from getting too upperty and making sure they don't mess with you
naturally you'd need other ways to advance, but most of it would be making sure that others will fail, so you can advance
in the company
it's a surval game... but really different
naturally underlings cannot be caught red handed messing with their boss stuff, so this would also mean you will need to be able to shift blame to somebody else
as i said: dumb idea
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:24
sounds a little too close to real life

workpolitics

Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:24
i think its good, if its dump enough
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:25
I think I can make a simple game
but probably won't be fun
need animation, art
soundFX
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:26
there are enough sources out there
but i think we should dev as team
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:27
So we are pretty set on Unity then
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:27
no we arent, why are we?
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:27
we're not?
I like Unity
I don't know if Unity allows different lang scripst
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:28
we can unity as well as unreal or cryengine
it does
js and c#
and boo
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:28
in the same project
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:28
yep, too
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:28
ok
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:28
but we would use c#
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:29
Unity's just most popular atm
larger community
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:29
ehm but i think ue4 is compareable
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:29
I'm doing devs on Linux btw
my UE4 on Linux experience was horrible
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:30
ahh ok
unity isn't made for linux as well
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:30
there is a version out
at least far more stable than ue4
beta
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:30
than we should maybe use fireball x as engine for little games
i really like cryengine, but its very complex
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:31
dead engine
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:31
think unity is fine
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:31
amazon's picking it up with lumberjack
so about game style
2D/iso2D/3D?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:31
we thought about low-poly
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:32
single/multi player?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:32
low poly 3d/iso2d
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:32
real-time/turn-based?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:32
its all about the gameidea
we can buildup a project from scretch
we're just hobbiests, everybody
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:33
i like iso2d
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:34
we can also switch game idea, it was just an idea
brainstorming
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:34
do you like zombie survival
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:34
yeah, but i think they are too many out there
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:35
roguelike?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:35
nah, maybe a little bit more innovative
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:36
team survival?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:36
i would really love a low poly multiplayer survival game with rpg elements aswell as shooter elements
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:37
shooter. fps?
or iso
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:37
i think ubisoft was able to mix this four elements (survival, shooter, rpg, multiplayer) good in the division
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:38
u like modern weapons?
or medieval
or..... magic?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:40
we could mixup
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:41
hmm
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:41
a few close combat weapons as well as range weapons, or magic
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:41
i like where it's going
I have an idea
I want to make some arts
concept arts
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:42
maybe we should prototype a little bit, a few dirty trys
yeah nice :)
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:42
do you like dungeons or openworld
why not both?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:42
ehm how late is it right now in your country?
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:42
it's morning here xD
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:43
yeah both :D
tell me the time of clock pls
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:43
7:43am
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:43
its 12:43 in germany
I am at work right now
so at 18:00 i'm at home, it will be 13:00 for you, is this fine?
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:44
im gonna move not too long from today, so i'll be 8 hours behind
but yes
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:45
ouh ok :)
low poly is fine?
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:45
yes
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:51
i like the way the project is goin
low poly, open world, survival, rpg, with dungeons
D:
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 12:55
D:
Joop Banenenbuiger
@JoopBananenbuiger
Feb 17 2016 12:58
any specific ideas?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 12:58
read the messages before :)
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 13:05
should we stay on gitter or move to slack?
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 13:06
dc
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 13:07
?
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 13:08
upto yall
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 13:09
ahh ok, then lets stay for now, but in dev i would prefer slack
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 13:15
I created a trello board for brainstorming
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 15:02
hmm u there?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:07
jep
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 15:07
jaja
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:07
whatsup?
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 15:07
shud I get a drawing tablet
for low poly, probably not right?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:08
most of low-poly is made in cinema 4d
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:09
Hello
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:09
hey
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:09
I saw your Reddit post
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:09
programmer or low poly artist? :)
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:09
Programmer and writer :P
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:10
you're welcome :)
but we rly need artists in time
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:10
hmnnn
I will try to find some
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:11
you got some knowlage of unity? :)
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:11
Nope. Blender. I can learn real fast tho
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:11
blender is also fine :)
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 15:11
<3 blender
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:11
you like modelling?
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:11
Tip: advertise on the blender forums instead of Reddit
If advertising is allowed
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:12
you can do, just share the reddit link :)
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 15:12
yea, exposure on INAT may be limited
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:12
Sure
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:13
@FreemanGG join our trello, to parse your ideas for the game
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:13
k
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:13
you can add yours too ofc
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:15
k
going to join
Just need to confirm my email
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:17
I used google instead
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:17
Is this fairly new?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:18
the trillo board? yeah
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:19
Do we have a GitHub respiratory?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:19
no we didnt even started
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:20
How many artists do we have (0?)
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:20
y :D
:D:D
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:21
Just asking
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 15:21
maybe we should switch from poly to 3d, then we can use blender for modelling
or we learn poly
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 15:27
Hmnn
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 15:36
lol i tried to remember how to texture in blender. modelling with touchpad is hard.
Freeman Cheng
@FreemanGG
Feb 17 2016 16:15
Yes. It is very very hard with touchpad lol
Florian Klaarenbeek
@FKDesign
Feb 17 2016 16:49
Hello dev's :) I came from a reddit post, in search of a designer?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 17:00
yea, ur right :)
what are you skills? :)
Florian Klaarenbeek
@FKDesign
Feb 17 2016 17:01
Started as graphic designer (still am) turned into motion designer both 2d and 3d. Skilled in the Adobe creative suit and Cinema4D.
Also have knowdlege on UI/UX
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 17:02
uii sounds interesting, you operate solo?
Florian Klaarenbeek
@FKDesign
Feb 17 2016 17:03
Yes.
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 17:03
ok, you know low-polys? :)
Florian Klaarenbeek
@FKDesign
Feb 17 2016 17:03
Yup, thats the subreddit I saw you post :)
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 17:04
ouh ok :) yeah welcome
feel like home
beer ist in the fridge
Florian Klaarenbeek
@FKDesign
Feb 17 2016 17:04
Danke
;)
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 17:05
ok rest isnt german so lets keep it in english 😂
Florian Klaarenbeek
@FKDesign
Feb 17 2016 17:06
Haha just kidding, I'm dutch actually.
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 17:06
ouh ok, so Wochenende got to duch right now :)
we
Florian Klaarenbeek
@FKDesign
Feb 17 2016 17:07
two?
Janek Rahrt
@janek26
Feb 17 2016 17:12
i dont know who but here ist one :)
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 19:23
allo
kchoi
@choikwa
Feb 17 2016 19:56
anyone know how to import .fbx textures?
123p10
@123p10
Feb 17 2016 23:28
hello
Am interested in helping I am fairly experienced in C# also fairly good writer