@dfkaye_twitter the link does not work, but reading the thread, it illustrate well the problem with Redux, it has no solid guidelines as to how to apply the pattern. Everything I read is someone's Cargo Cult. I have no doubt it has everything to succeed and even thrive as we have often discussed in this forum, but it will only happen when someone explains with enough precision "that's how you ought to use redux". Hint, "FP" is not how one should use Redux. I hope that's clear to everyone by now.