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    Patti McLetchie
    @pattimcletchie:matrix.org
    [m]
    @MarkEWaite: where do I find the calendar invite for the meeting? I'd like to start attending regularly
    1 reply
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    @pattimcletchie:matrix.org myself or Mark can send you can email invite, dm me or Mark the email you would like and we can add you
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]

    In 3 hours our next UX meeting starts. I added a first topic to our agenda at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QttPwdimNP_120JukigKsRuBvMr34KZhVfsbgq1HFLM

    Feel free to add any additional topics...

    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    Thanks @uhafner:matrix.org . I added two topics based on recent UI work by Jan Faracik. The key result I hope to reach from both those topics is an invitation to test the 2.317 and 2.318 UI more deeply
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    see you there :)
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    one plugin appears to use material icons, (workflow-multibranch) https://github.com/search?q=org%3Ajenkinsci+-repo%3Ajenkinsci%2Fjenkins+-repo%3Ajenkinsci%2Fblueocean-plugin+svgIcon&type=Code&ref=advsearch&l=&l=
    and branch-api
    Deepak Gupta
    @Mr-DG-Wick
    How long for the meeting to start?
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    @Mr-DG-Wick meeting just finished. Recording will be uploaded in the next 4-6 hours. Agenda topics included:
    • Color definitions, client-side and server side
    • Recent UI improvements in Jenkins core (visible in 2.317, coming in next LTS baseline)
    • Upcoming UI improvements in Jenkins core (table modernization, reducing use of YahooUI components, and more)
    Deepak Gupta
    @Mr-DG-Wick
    I miss calculated the time to be 9:pm IST for me. Thanks for the info Mark. I shall go through the recordings
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    No problem. If you are a Google calendar user, we can add you to the invitation on the Jenkins calendar so that you'll see reminders from the Jenkins calendar. https://www.jenkins.io/events/
    3 replies
    halkeye
    @halkeye:g4v.dev
    [m]
    @MarkEWaite: even if not a Google calendar user, they will get an email and they can add it to thier calendar of choice
    DoofusCanadensis
    @kenrachynski:matrix.org
    [m]
    oh, Colour definitions. will try to watch this meeting. As someone with a red-green colour blind family member, colour is a topic dear to my heart
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo9zs69MXOg is the recording of the meeting. I inserted comments in the description that will allow you to see the various subtopics quickly
    DoofusCanadensis
    @kenrachynski:matrix.org
    [m]
    oh good, Ulli covered that pretty well 👍️
    DoofusCanadensis
    @kenrachynski:matrix.org
    [m]
    the commentary late in that video over the sheer number of places you can have a conversation in is depressing
    halkeye
    @halkeye:g4v.dev
    [m]
    the more embracing of css variables, the easier that'll become
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]
    I finally found some time to create a new topic about colors in our community forum. Then we can use this topic as a starting point for a discussion about color handling in Jenkins.
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]
    Since we are back to standard time now I would like to propose that we start our meetings again at 4pm UTC so that the local time does not change. Is that ok for everybody? In the event calendar the meeting is currently set to 3pm UTC.
    I also created a pull request to update the home page of our SIG, comments are welcome! See jenkins-infra/jenkins.io#4704
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    That's OK with me
    Next meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, Nov 24, 2021.
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    works best for me
    to change back :)
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]
    Ok, so we meet the next time on Wednesday, Nov 24, 2021 at 4pm UTC. Tim already changed the calendar event, thanks!
    Jan Jansen
    @farodin91
    I'm looking into sidepanel it seems they are not really consistent for all in Jenkins. Any plan to streamline them?
    3 replies
    I would like to update two plugins to use the new table style. Wouldn't require that the table style this in the newest LTS or not?
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    it's up to the maintainers if they'll take the PR before it's in the LTS, generally people have been taking them these days. You need to bump the minimum version (jenkins.version in pom.xml) to the version the feature was released in.
    Oleg Nenashev
    @oleg-nenashev
    FYI in October I participated in the Sustain Open Source Design podcast where I talked about Jenkins UX stories and invited people to contribute. It has been just published: https://sosdesign.sustainoss.org/13
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite

    UX SIG meeting is today. Agenda is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QttPwdimNP_120JukigKsRuBvMr34KZhVfsbgq1HFLM/edit#heading=h.qabm4b4io4ee . Looking forward to topics including:

    If you have other topics, please propose them for the meeting agenda.

    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    UX SIG meeting at https://zoom.us/j/91788301376?pwd=ekh0NWUvNCs1UVNaaGp2SjZydVMxZz09 in just a few minutes
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    UX SIG meeting will start in about 40 minutes at https://zoom.us/j/91788301376?pwd=ekh0NWUvNCs1UVNaaGp2SjZydVMxZz09 . Agenda at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QttPwdimNP_120JukigKsRuBvMr34KZhVfsbgq1HFLM/edit#heading=h.5w6rztvl5s02 . Topics currently on the agenda include:
    • JEP-234 status report
    • Jenkins 2.319.1 status report
    • Upcoming UI improvements
    • New search view
    Harsh Gupta
    @hg13190
    Jenkins is pure nightmare.... I've spent 2 days but I haven't been able to run an agent from a remote machine...in Azure it got running within 5 minutes
    20 replies
    halkeye
    @halkeye:g4v.dev
    [m]
    @hg13190: btw, 1) This is the user experience guild, not really a help channel. 2) Starting from "You thing sucks, help me" (outside of the angel mark) is usually not a great starting people to ask people for help.
    3 replies
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    I filed https://issues.jenkins.io/browse/JENKINS-67537 recently but cannot really believe it's not a duplicate, it seems familiar but cannot find another issue. Does this look familiar to anyone else?
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]
    Bildschirmfoto 2022-01-10 um 19.30.57.png
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    that seems correct if that's a response to my message? But also a different situation?
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    @daniel-beck I've not seen a bug report like that. I think it is a very interesting bug report, but I don't recall seeing one like it.
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    Thanks :)
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]
    Sorry, my text to the image seems to be lost...
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    the difference in your case is that the top-level step has no help, and the tool-specific help opens in the tool specific location. I would guess that a top-level step help would open in the same (and then wrong) location.
    happy to be proven wrong
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]
    Yes, I noticed that now as well...
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    time to add help.html and see what happens :D
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]
    I must admit that I like the help to appear before the add button rather than after.
    You need to scroll a lot until you see the help:
    Bildschirmfoto 2022-01-10 um 19.40.01.png
    Bildschirmfoto 2022-01-10 um 19.40.01.png
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    yep, not great. Having it show up in a completely unrelated location is a clear bug though.
    (obligatory "less scrolling before tables-to-divs" snark :D)
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]

    Having it show up in a completely unrelated location is a clear bug though.

    Yes, this is a bug.