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    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    ok. Still not a great experience, but at least it seems defensible as that was a more important change AFAIUI
    DoofusCanadensis
    @kenrachynski:matrix.org
    [m]
    oh, that one... Ulli Hafner , in the output of the plugin.
    I'll grab a screen shot when I get back home
    Ulli Hafner
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    [m]
    UX meeting starts right now
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    re the demo today @janfaracik Perhaps you could look into considering the 'new view' and 'new agent' dialogs when redesigning the 'new item/job' dialog? They diverged in 2.0 and that's something I think was a mistake. They all have the same basic structure (select name and either type or copy source), except only items/jobs has categories grouping types. Might be good idea to make them consistent? Unsure though, perhaps groups make them too different.
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    raised an issue for making theme manager more extensible: jenkinsci/theme-manager-plugin#88
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    @timja Re https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/5897#issuecomment-1072129042 it would be nice if there also were some guidance when to use which. We are very weak when it comes to UI standards, and we can probably improve a lot with some basic guidance :)
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    image.png
    thanks for feedback,
    I'll push this as something to iterate on:
    trying to add an acceptable baseline for each component
    and then see what needs beefing up
    (and fixing breakages all over the place)
    Alexander Brandes
    @NotMyFault
    The overhaul branch looks awesome and much more intuitive to work with rather than the plain jelly tag reference, because it does now ship up to date examples of the latest additions and how they render in Jenkins.
    Great work here
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    @timja Thanks :)
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja

    I was wondering if we wanted a hosted Jenkins instance for the design library until ci.jenkins.io can have it installed? (ci.jenkins.io uses LTS so would be quite awhile)

    I think it'd be a lot better if we could link mailing list and jenkins.io documentation to an actual instance?

    cc @MarkEWaite @NotMyFault @janfaracik
    @uhafner:matrix.org
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    Alexander Brandes
    @NotMyFault
    +1 from me. The next baseline is not yet picked and an instance running a weekly release will indeed be beneficial to preview what's coming up in a next LTS and to play around with things beforehand.
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    Seems like a good topic for today's meeting of the infra team. I think we might want a long term instance at weekly.ci.jenkins.io specifically so that we're showing others our use of the weekly release. We already use weekly on one of the CI servers behind the VPN. I don't think that it needs to be anything heavyweight. It definitely does not need to run all the jobs that are defined for ci.jenkins.io
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    Regression with context menu: https://issues.jenkins.io/browse/JENKINS-68160
    Zbynek Konecny
    @zbynek
    @janfaracik I just saw you are working on improving the "new project" UI. I'm wondering if it would make sense to revert the order of naming and creating a job: obviously that's no longer just a CSS + JS change, but I think it better fits the thought process when creating jobs. First decide that I want a multibranch pipeline, then pick a repository, then decide the name (which could then be pre-filled by the plugin that provides multibranch jobs, based on the repository name). So basically first create an item with a temporary name e.g. "multibranch 1", then let user rename it by providing an extra field in the configuration form.
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    I've started an email thread to discuss if we should delay the LTS baseline selection by 2 weeks or even by 4 weeks so that regressions can be resolved. See https://groups.google.com/g/jenkinsci-ux/c/AFe-kcqoEok/m/8gKtkeoEAQAJ for the discussion thread
    Martin d'Anjou
    @martinda
    @NotMyFault Hi. I am going to try to upgrade the external workspace manager plugin for automated releases, but I am expecting visitors shortly, I don't know if I can complete it today.
    Alexander Brandes
    @NotMyFault
    No worries, it's not urgent to release this change today. Thanks for pulling it in nevertheless, if you need assistance with setting up CD, let me know.
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    Is it possible to move the ux-sig meeting 1 hour earlier? (day light saving time adjustment)
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    Certainly. I'll move it on the calendar
    hervelemeur
    @hervelemeur:matrix.org
    [m]
    I've noticed the design library homepage is eating almost all my resources when opening it, confirmed by Damien and Stephane, is it the same for you? Should I open an issue on its repo?
    The culprit seems to come from the .app-card__preview::before CSS properties, as soon as I comment it out my computer usage decrease to a normal level.
    .app-card__preview::before {
      background-image: radial-gradient(at 40% 20%, hsla(28, 100%, 74%, 1) 0, transparent 50%), radial-gradient(at 80% 0%, hsla(189, 100%, 56%, 1) 0, transparent 50%), radial-gradient(at 0% 50%, hsla(355, 85%, 93%, 1) 0, transparent 50%), radial-gradient(at 80% 50%, hsl(359, 70%, 46%) 0, transparent 50%), radial-gradient(at 0% 100%, hsla(22, 100%, 77%, 1) 0, transparent 50%), radial-gradient(at 80% 100%, hsla(242, 100%, 70%, 1) 0, transparent 50%), radial-gradient(at 0% 0%, hsla(343, 100%, 76%, 1) 0, transparent 50%);
      animation: rotate-colors 7s linear infinite;
    }
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    please create an issue
    i've never noticed an issue with it
    i don't spend much time on the home page though
    Patti McLetchie
    @pattimcletchie:matrix.org
    [m]
    My assumption would be the infinite loop is causing the issue
    hervelemeur
    @hervelemeur:matrix.org
    [m]
    just noticed the background svg is cropped too on ff (not chrome).. Will open another issue
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    Looking at the matrix-auth UI I notice that "user" icon is now monochrome, but "person" is not. Is this expected? Or am I doing something wrong in my plugin?
    Screenshot 2022-04-21 at 16.45.28.png
    I merged a PR related to icon cleanup just 3 months ago so this is a bit of a surpriseā€¦
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    cc @NotMyFault if you're interested in tackling :)
    Alexander Brandes
    @NotMyFault
    A few overrides are not in place yet, I can head forward to address the ones missing out later
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    yes
    Alexander Brandes
    @NotMyFault
    I'm not much familiar with matrix-auth, but invalid usernames do already show the error.svg icon left to the user-disabled.svg icon. Removing user-disabled at all can work out too while keeping error.svg and the obvious red, striked through text
    Daniel Beck
    @daniel-beck
    huh, good point
    Mark Waite
    @MarkEWaite
    Jenkins UX SIG meeting starts in 5 minutes at https://zoom.us/j/91788301376?pwd=ekh0NWUvNCs1UVNaaGp2SjZydVMxZz09
    Tim Jacomb
    @timja
    I'll miss it today unfortunately