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Jeff Escalante
@jescalan
would need to be done through an extension
if you are running speed optimizations though, thats probably a pretty far down the list optimization tbh
running extra optimization on images and javascript come way before this
picture element with webp source, srcset and sizes are first priority
the js bundle trimming and aggressive splitting for http/2 load
if you get there and its still slow, inlining css is probably not going to fix the issue haha
loading css typically is extremely fast
David Eglin
@djeglin
Its not slow... Just for my own personal pleasure forcing Google PageSpeed to give me a good mark :) Real-world speed is lightning fast.
Also, everything else within my control is pretty well optimised already... this is the last thing I'm looking at
If its not easily achievable, its not a problem. I was just curious :)
Jeff Escalante
@jescalan
Haha fair enough! Yea it's achieveable, you'd just need to write a plugin for it
Eleazar Junsan
@eljun

Hi @jescalan,

We been using roots here at (webriq) for all our projects for quite some time now and I been in task to test the new version. I got some concerns, because I'm running in windows 10 - 32bit operating system and it is really slow it took about 7-9 secs to compile the starter template while in the roots its 1-2 secs. Is this something that can be improve in the future? or is there any lacking configuration that needs to be done in order to gain more speed in working in our projects?

Thanks,
Jun

Jeff Escalante
@jescalan
Hey @eljun, so roots is no longer actively maintained, so unfortunately the answer here is no. However if you are still tied to it and want to check it out and make a PR to try to fix it, I would happily review! In case you haven't seen it yet, roots' successor is spike - same functionality, faster, cleaner, and better.
Eleazar Junsan
@eljun

Hello @jescalan,

Perhaps I haven't made my comment more clearer sorry for that, yes we understand that roots is no longer actively maintain though we don't have any high level concerns while we are using it. We've heard about spike since you first announce it, but we had been hesitant to migrate all our projects since then.

So I have been task to test out the new spike (successor of roots) for our future projects. The first concern I have found is when I am compiling spike under Windows 10 32bit Operating system it took it 7-9 secs to compile whenever I change something in the layout whereas in the old roots a simple project can only take less than 2 secs to refresh the page.

Pardon for my english. Thanks for your wonderful work.

Jeff Escalante
@jescalan
ah yeah i have seen some cases when it can be slow on windows for some reason
unfortunately there are very few people using spike that use windows and not one of them has contributed to improve this
Eleazar Junsan
@eljun
Ah okey, thanks Jeff we are planning to have some hardware upgrade soon so I believe that would sort out the issue. Hoping that you will add some more important plugins for spike specially use for blogs.
Jeff Escalante
@jescalan
you mean for reading markdown files?
we have built a number of blogs with spike
this plugin does markdown file parsing
https://github.com/static-dev/spike-collections
however, we very strongly advise against storing content in markdown files, for many reasons
using a database (headless cms) is always a better option
there are adapters for a couple popular headless cms' for spike, such as contentful, dato, and wordpress
Eleazar Junsan
@eljun

HellO @jescalan,

Yes I think I understand where you're going at, we been storing plenty of .md files for our blog using the /admin combined with netlify. So far it is manageable, but we are limited to many blogging features such as tagging, feeds, categorize, searching, and so on. I guess this is one of the major disadvantage of roots compare to Hexo & Jekyll. But we have had no regrets in choosing roots to back our cms sites for the past 2 yrs.

Jeff Escalante
@jescalan
this is a blog made with spike: https://life.spartan.com/
full featured, search, categories, etc
this site uses contentful as the back end
it can be done, just depends on the architecture
markdown files are just a bad way to store blog content
a much better way is a relational database
Wasim Ullah
@mrwullah
  1. How do I display post excerpts of posts on the home page? (as seen on: https://themes.gohugo.io/theme/hugo-theme-cactus-plus/)
  2. What's the code for tags page? (as seen on: https://themes.gohugo.io/theme/hugo-theme-cactus-plus/tags)
  3. How to add "about" under a post? (as seen on: https://addyosmani.com/blog/chrome-devtools-deepdive/)
Jeff Escalante
@jescalan
Hi @mrwullah - are you working on an existing site or building a new site with roots?
are you aware that roots is unmaintained?
Wasim Ullah
@mrwullah
I wasn't aware. I am working with Hugo. Is this the wrong place to ask this question?
Jeff Escalante
@jescalan
yes, this is not the correct room for hugo
this is for roots
not sure how that even got confused haha
andrewgrano
@andrewgrano
haha thats funny
andrewgrano
@andrewgrano
Hey Jeff, hope all is well with you. That Spartan site is really impressive, did you build it? My roots site (roaminglove.com) is going on 300+ posts now. My code is getting messy and the site is getting slower now that there are 4 URLs of JSON data (wordpress creates a new URL after every 100 posts). Do you think it would be pretty time consuming to switch my site from roots to spike and make it as legit as the Spartan site? I guess my other option would be to switch to wordpress as the front-end. Anyways, thank you for any insight that you could provide!
Jeff Escalante
@jescalan
Hey Andrew! Yep I did. I think it would be a lot to time consuming for sure, but as you grow the post number it will become impossible to keep it fast while compiling everything. Switching to Hugo will give you some breathing room, and you could still use spike or roots for your assets, but eventually it will get slow as well
The big move is switching from compiling every post, to only compiling a limited number of recent posts, and fetching the rest on demand. This can be done with either build system, but is involved
Switching to straight word press would also solve the problem, but would make the site load slower and be more vulnerable to security issues
andrewgrano
@andrewgrano
Hey Jeff! Thanks for the feedback. This all makes a lot of sense. My site is growing rapidly (new posts every day), so for that reason, I'm leaning towards using wordpress as the front end... Anyways, congrats on the Spartan website - truly a huge accomplishment!
arbel
@arbel
Hi, I'm having trouble get scss to work.
I've followed the steps here: https://medium.com/@_phzn/roots-a-delightful-static-site-generator-get-started-in-20-minutes-f7aaab43056d
but my public css folder still has scss files and not converted css files
Ben O'Donohue
@benodonohue
Are you using roots stand alone or roots with spike?
Tom Kraak
@tkraak
there is to "roots with spike"
spike is the successor of roots