These are chat archives for jsconf/jseu

20th
May 2015
Lewis Cowper
@lewiscowper
May 20 2015 11:53
Hello?
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 12:09
hey @lewiscowper!
does Gitter have emoji?
Tom Lane
@tomlane
May 20 2015 13:00
Yus. Colon to start autocomplete! :smile:
Lewis Cowper
@lewiscowper
May 20 2015 13:04
huh, that doesn’t work in the app
:smile:
or rather, it doesn’t render. The input field prompts for the autocomplete properly, but you can’t see it. 👎
but I can apparently type emoji myself
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 13:35
:clap:
hmm, interesting, apparently it doesn't necessarily show up properly?
does anyone wants to give a talk about implementing cross-browser-app emoji
Lewis Cowper
@lewiscowper
May 20 2015 13:36
oh, whoa. They all rendered now
or when I switched back
Tom Lane
@tomlane
May 20 2015 13:38
Not sure if its bad luck/timing but they seem to be playing up as a whole on gitter today!
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 15:26
:tada:
Marcel Pociot
@mpociot
May 20 2015 15:31
:wave:
Amanda Harlin
@amandaharlin
May 20 2015 15:32
:clap: :sparkles:
Marc Binder
@MrBoolean
May 20 2015 15:47
:)
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 15:51
I'm here off an on before 7pm too so if anyone wants to ask any questions feel free! both privately or in public channel :)
Jeffrey Kunkel
@JKunkel
May 20 2015 16:12
:+1:
Amanda Harlin
@amandaharlin
May 20 2015 16:27
wow, thanks!
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:02
helloooo
I’m also here, ask me anything, here or in private :)
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:02
:dancers: :muscle:
Marcus Noble
@AverageMarcus
May 20 2015 17:05
Do any of you know of topics that people want to hear about?
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:06
We can only give general recommendations. What people really like is hard lessons learned. E.g. you have problem X and tried 7 open source solutions and they all failed in different ways and you learned along the way what the one true solution should look like and then you built it. Tell that story and it’d be a fantastic talk :)
We are generally less looking for “introduction to X” kind of talks.
but generally something that you have experience with is always worth exploring.
the audience wants to learn WHY you are doing things, less then the HOW you are doing it
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:08
I've heard someone saying recently: "we don't need another talk recaping the documentation of another framework, we need more practical approaches"
which I think sums it up pretty well
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:08
Yeah, no talks that fit in a readme :)
Nina Zakharenko
@nnja
May 20 2015 17:09
Who's the expected audience?
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:09
“Why Ember is better than Angular and React” however, would be very interesting (if derived from experience)
Marcus Noble
@AverageMarcus
May 20 2015 17:09
what about a "this is something that seems difficult but is actually something that can be done quick and easy with the right tools" ?
Jonathan Kingston
@jonathanKingston
May 20 2015 17:09
Heh worried that one of my submissions may appear as a “introduction to X”
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:09
@nnja “JavaScript and web enthusiasts”, of all proficiency levels
@jonathanKingston no worries, if you have more of them :)
Mariko Kosaka
@kosamari
May 20 2015 17:10
Would y'all prefer completely new talk or could it be something it was given at different conf before ?
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:10
Plus: sometimes an intro talk is good. like Phil Robert’s Event Loop talk from last year, or the IEEE754 (floats) introduction the year before. But these are esoteric topics :)
Jonathan Kingston
@jonathanKingston
May 20 2015 17:10
@janl are you asking me to submit more hah
Mariko Kosaka
@kosamari
May 20 2015 17:10
like not the exact talk but same topic
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:11
the event loop talk is one of the best tech talks I've ever seen, although I'm a little biased here
Jonathan Kingston
@jonathanKingston
May 20 2015 17:11
The service worker one is in the same ball park too
Marcus Noble
@AverageMarcus
May 20 2015 17:11
:+1: completely agree on the event loop talk. I loved it!
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:11
@kosamari I don't think it matters if it's not original content, speakers tend to amend slides when they repeat talks
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:11
@kosamari we are always looking for original content. If you have given the talk elsewhere and there is a video, that counts against you, but if there is no video, we go easy on you :) — The best thing though is to take the time between the first instance and JSEU to come up with a 2.0 version of the talk, that has: more research, other examples, a new demo, new insights, etc.
(sorry @thefoxis :)
Nina Zakharenko
@nnja
May 20 2015 17:12
i'll have to watch the event loop one - thanks for the tip!
last year i focused 50/50 on python & js. this year i've been way more python focused so i feel kind of out of the loop
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:12
@janl: I thought some of them were repetitive, but maybe I'm wrong :P
too many conferences
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:12
@jonathanKingston yeah, definitely submit more than one :) And yeah the SW-one is a good example of a “new tech” talk that, while introductory, explains WHY it is important, while also showing the HOW.
@thefoxis exactly our point, we want to move the JS community forward, not create our own version of the talks that exist elsewhere. (unless they are SO good, we have to have them :)
Jonathan Kingston
@jonathanKingston
May 20 2015 17:13
@janl Heh I have two active submissions I don't think I could cope with more tension
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:13
the other day some people were asking about "the state of modern JavaScript" articles, the difference between react, amd, webpack etc. I think that would actually be a pretty good talk
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:13
yeah, this!
make it a good angry rant, and I’m game :D
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:14
also no one linked to any resources covering that soooo... here's a free talk proposal
Jonathan Kingston
@jonathanKingston
May 20 2015 17:14
Baha I threw away one of my submissions because I thought it would turn into a giant rant haha
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:15
rant usually implies being passionate about something, which is great, as long as it's constructive rather than shaming
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:15
Yeah, not the cranky get-off-my-lawn type
Martin Schuhfuss
@usefulthink
May 20 2015 17:15
@janl should i also submit more than one if i can think of different takes and routes for the very same talk? If yes, Should I mark them somehow as being basically the same thing with different approaches?
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:16
@usefulthink yeah, add a single sentence in the “note to curators” box, that references the other talk and that it is an alternative take. We’ll take it from there
I think @thefoxis’s point about passion is good. What is the one topic you can’t shut up about when you are with peers who understand what you are talking about :)
Jonathan Kingston
@jonathanKingston
May 20 2015 17:17
Is there any rough timeframe when the submissions will likely hear back about which has been picked?
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:17
@jonathanKingston end of June
Also: what have you worked on in the last year (at the day job or as a side-project)?
Jonathan Kingston
@jonathanKingston
May 20 2015 17:19
@janl :+1: thanks; yeah perhaps I might submit it then regarding rants-ish submissions.
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:19
Also, if you have a non-computer hobby or profession, crossovers are always fun: http://2014.jsconf.eu/speakers/sara-robinson-what-harry-potter-can-teach-us-about-javascript.html
Jonathan Kingston
@jonathanKingston
May 20 2015 17:20
I work for a security training company that uses ember components for everything. I have a lot of open source side projects too.
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:20
good rule of thumb is to do passion-work-related talks rather than so-called research talks. what I mean here is: i'm interested in topic x so i will research it and do a talk about it. that usually tends not to work out that well
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:20
Or if you come from other communities: what can JS learn from Python in terms of community care? What can JS learn from Haskell’s type system? etc…
@thefoxis good call! The one exception: pet projects: if you always wanted to do a thing that you think is great, if we agree it is great and you get picked, you have the pressure to make it work. We call that Conference Driven Development
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:22
haha, yess
Tom Lane
@tomlane
May 20 2015 17:22
CDD :smile:
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:22
Any talks that make developer’s lives easier are also great. You can share project management tips, explain self-care, go though productivity tools etc.
If any of you have ideas and want to run them by me or @thefoxis, feel free to send us private messages, or ask here :)
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:25
:microphone:
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:31
One more comment on introductory talks:
We specifically mean no “introduction to Ember” or “introduction to IndexedDB”
However, we’ve had intro talks on ServiceWorker and Promises, e.g.
also, introductions to niche topics like security, accessibility (sorry!), Audio, Video etc. are always good, too
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:32
crypto maybe too?
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:33
yeah!
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:33
that's a hard topic, seeing someone who can talk about it in an accessible and easy to comprehend way would be amazing
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:33
We had @adam_baldwin two years ago, it was great, but we can always do with more perspectives.
Steve Gill
@stevengill
May 20 2015 17:36
Thoughts on a talk about electron?
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:36
@stevengill what would be your angle?
Steve Gill
@stevengill
May 20 2015 17:37
still trying to figure one out. I'm currently working on adding electron as a platform for cordova
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:38
oh nice!
As mentioned earlier, we are more looking for talks that explain WHY people should do something, less than WHAT, but a discussion on WHY electron/cordova Apps are good, what the problems are etc. would be cool!
More GENERAL advice:
Steve Gill
@stevengill
May 20 2015 17:39
Good to know! So maybe something around why you should deploy your apps everywhere, and here is one way kinda thing
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:39
If something or someone inspired you, write a love-letter talk. E.g. “Praising Adele Goldberg” or “Celebrating Alan Kay” or “What I learned about JS from hiking the Great Wall of China”, that is also always great
Lewis Cowper
@lewiscowper
May 20 2015 17:40
How long are y’all around for?
(basically I’ll be afk for a bit starting around now, be back in 45 minutes or so)
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:41
I’ll be here all night, but will have less attention from 20 minutes from now.
Una Kravets
@una
May 20 2015 17:42
:wave:
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:45
:wave: @una!
@lewiscowper I'll be around, but not full attention span at all times. will wait for you though!
Charlotte Spencer
@Charlotteis
May 20 2015 17:46
:wave:
Una Kravets
@una
May 20 2015 17:48
Hey @Charlotteis :)
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:49
Heya @una :)
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:49
hi @Charlotteis :sunflower:
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 17:50
Hello all ✌️
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 17:51
hai hai Mike!
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 17:51
😀
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:51
heya Mike!
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 17:51
Heya Jan!
I'm just lurking for the 'what we wanna see' posts
And trying to work out if I've done anything that fits.
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:53
@mikemaccana we don’t have a wishlist, only some generic guidelines
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 17:53
nod
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:53
(we are Zen that way :D)
@mikemaccana can you see the backlog (I don’t know how Gitter works)
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 17:53
Yeah have been reading :^)
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:54
aye!
Eli Diaz
@elidiazgt
May 20 2015 17:56
sup, greetings from guatemala, im just looking
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 17:59
Hey @elidiazgt!
Noah Swartz
@SwartzCr
May 20 2015 18:01
oh hi
Lin Clark
@linclark
May 20 2015 18:02
@thefoxis just saw your tweets... I'd be interested in giving a talk on some of those things
by the time the jsconfeu rolls around, we should have some changes in the works for how front-end npm is going to work
if that would be an interesting topic
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:03
@linclark npm, yes, please!
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 18:04
omg yes @linclark!
also npm for front-end imho would be wonderful too
Lin Clark
@linclark
May 20 2015 18:04
sure, I've been focusing on exploring that kind of stuff anyway
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:05
@linclark also, wanna do an npmconf/npm workshop/npm anything during http://wwwtf.berlin?! :) #npmfangirlsunite
Noah Swartz
@SwartzCr
May 20 2015 18:05
Do you think that a talk about the EFF project Privacy Badger (https://www.eff.org/privacybadger) would be appropriate?
Lin Clark
@linclark
May 20 2015 18:05
that sounds great! let me run it by Rod and Isaac
Lewis Cowper
@lewiscowper
May 20 2015 18:06
(Not quite back yet, another 20-25+ minutes to go, but I like the idea of a pet project/CDD driven talk. I think I’ve already pitched one, but I’m not sure how well suited it is)
Charlotte Spencer
@Charlotteis
May 20 2015 18:06
I'd really like to see a talk about NPM on the Front end
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 18:07
@Charlotteis we're doing that at CertSimple now
Charlotte Spencer
@Charlotteis
May 20 2015 18:07
hai mike :)
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 18:07
@Charlotteis some fun learnings, eg, using discify to visualize why our client side code was huge and find out our bundles had 1MB of country data
hai @Charlotteis !
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:08
@SwartzCr on it’s own maybe a little too little, but there are a few more tools like this (moz has one), and a sample for a bunch of these tools, what what the things they show MEAN to the audience and regular people, that would definitely do the trick!
Charlotte Spencer
@Charlotteis
May 20 2015 18:08
is it something I see on the CertSimple blog at some point? :)
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 18:08
Also working out how to package/load templates etc with npm which wasn't super obvious.
@Charlotteis London Node Conf asked me to do something in June so will do there.
Charlotte Spencer
@Charlotteis
May 20 2015 18:08
coolness
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 18:08
or London Node User Group even
Noah Swartz
@SwartzCr
May 20 2015 18:08
@janl can you elaborate on that a little?
Lin Clark
@linclark
May 20 2015 18:09
@mikemaccana that sounds really interesting. I work at npm, if there's a recording of it could you tweet @npmjs ?
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 18:09
Sure @linclark !
Lin Clark
@linclark
May 20 2015 18:10
thanks :)
Omid Hezaveh
@omidfi
May 20 2015 18:10
Hi there! I think hiring process in IT is not fair, and from forst hand experience
I can come up with suggestions, would that be anything like a talk?
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:10
@SwartzCr what area? — I think just show-casing one tool doesn’t have enough meat for a single talk.
@omidfi YES YES YES YES
Charlotte Spencer
@Charlotteis
May 20 2015 18:11
+1
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 18:11
+1
Omid Hezaveh
@omidfi
May 20 2015 18:11
But if I get hired, I might lose interest :D
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 18:11
especially legal angle would be interesting + how companies trick minorities into getting pay less, if you know what I mean
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:11
@omidfi lol
Omid Hezaveh
@omidfi
May 20 2015 18:12
@thefoxis well minority here! I'm one!
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:12
  • the angle on interviewing and “culture fit” (we’ll have a lot of men in the audience, they need to take away that they are the problem just as much)
that black dot was supposed to be a plus sign
Omid Hezaveh
@omidfi
May 20 2015 18:14
I've only talked in small meetups, and for the first big talk, do you provide any medicine, to help? Even listenning to jsconfbp was freaky :)
I'm sending a proposal then!
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:16
@omidfi whatever your poison, we can help :D — But more seriously, we are happy to review abstracts, slides, pair you with a more experienced speaker for rehearsing. — From experience: the nervousness will never go away (I’ve done 100+ talks and it is still there, every time), but practice helps: give the talk at least three times before you come on stage (if only against an empty hotel wall), ideally with a trusted person that gives feedback, or a pro who gives feedback
Charlotte Spencer
@Charlotteis
May 20 2015 18:17
100 talks? wow.
Omid Hezaveh
@omidfi
May 20 2015 18:17
@janl thanks! very supportive!
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:17
@Charlotteis I started in 2007 :)
Marcel Pociot
@mpociot
May 20 2015 18:19
Hi everyone. I'm a bit late :)
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:20
@SwartzCr …continued: but if you have a talk that explains why that particular tools shows important things and show all the corrupt structure around everything and how we need to have an inversion of power, that’d be a great talk :)
hi @mpociot
@mpociot feel free to dig though the back log, or ask any questions. If you want to share proposals privately, feel free to message me or @thefoxis
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 18:22
:dancer:
Noah Swartz
@SwartzCr
May 20 2015 18:24
@janl so a talk about tracking on the web, and how it's pervasive, and how to build to protect against it would be of interest? Is that the angle you mean when you say 'corrupt structure' and 'inversion of power'?
Marcel Pociot
@mpociot
May 20 2015 18:25
I already sent a proposal a few days ago, but I'd like to get some feedback, because I just read that you don't necessarily want "introduction to blah" kind of topics.
I wanted to talk about native app development with JS using Appcelerator Titanium
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:29
@SwartzCr yeah, approach it from the “what should the audience take away from my talk?”-angle. Why should I care about tracking? What does that mean for me? What does that mean on a societal, or even political level? Do we have a fighting chance to reverse the current trend? etc. :)
@mpociot that’s cool, what would be your angle? :)
Marcel Pociot
@mpociot
May 20 2015 18:32
I think since Facebook came out with React Native, the whole JS community is more open to developing (native) apps using JavaScript. So I basically see this talk as an eye opener on what is already possible and what's so great about it.
Una Kravets
@una
May 20 2015 18:32
I submitted a talk that I think will be super cool to CSS Conf EU -- is talk selection linked with the selection to this?
Marcel Pociot
@mpociot
May 20 2015 18:33
Well and the few things that could be better about it :D
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 18:35
@una not that I know of, no.
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:35
@una we are separate from CSSconf when it comes to speaker selection
Una Kravets
@una
May 20 2015 18:35
okay, cool, was just wondering :)
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:36
@mpociot I like that, less “here is this specific tool”, but more a “part of the industry is going this way, here’s what you can do today and what’s being done to make this even better in the future”
@una sorry for not replying to your email yet (I think, it’s a bit of a blur :)
Una Kravets
@una
May 20 2015 18:37
no problem!
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 18:42
hi @xmlgrrl!
Lewis Cowper
@lewiscowper
May 20 2015 18:44
@janl You told me to submit my forklift driver to Developer talk, so I did, but I pitched it the same as I did to ScotlandJS. Is the expectation inherently there that I’ll be refining and amending and stuff between the two events?
Eve Maler
@xmlgrrl
May 20 2015 18:44
hi @thefoxis and all!
heard on Twitter there was interest in security talks so poked my head in :-)
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:45
@lewiscowper yes, but no worries :)
heya @xmlgrrl :) — Always, please :)
Dan Jenkins
@danjenkins
May 20 2015 18:45
This has reminded me I really need to put in my webrtc talk!
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:46
Here is our general call for speakers: http://2015.jsconf.eu/call-for-speakers/
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 18:46
we :clap: need :clap: more :clap: security :clap:
@xmlgrrl was just going through your publications—very impressive!
Nat
@natdudley
May 20 2015 18:47
hiya.
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:47
@xmlgrrl basically: infosec and development don’t party enough together and the results are frustrating (my personal pet peeve is MD5+salt for password storage, but that’s beside the point here). We need more devs learn infosec and we need more infosec people think like developers, and we want to be a venue for that.
@xmlgrrl what that means in practice: you figure out :P
heya @natdudley!
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 18:48
@natdudley hi!
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:51
(I’m making some dinner on the side, so replies will slow down a little, but I’m here)
Nat
@natdudley
May 20 2015 18:51
It's 6:45 AM here so my brain is a wee bit slow :-)
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:52
no rush :)
and good morning :)
Nat
@natdudley
May 20 2015 18:52
Idk that much about how broad your context goes, but I've been throwing around a talk concept on the network effect of bad UX - understanding the cognitive load of decisions you make on your customers and how they ripple and amplify, and how you can save the world and also beat all your competition by nailing this. And how the secret-sauce is actually diverse teams.
Dan Jenkins
@danjenkins
May 20 2015 18:53
@janl do you think theres much interest in webrtc as a topic at jsconfeu? I've been trying to get webrtc in-front of more developers and my main target of being a Google Developer Expert on the topic is to get it infront of more devs and show them it's much better than it was 3-4 years ago
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:54
@danjenkins most definitely
bonus points for cool demos on the local network
Dan Jenkins
@danjenkins
May 20 2015 18:54
oh awesome :)
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:54
(the wifi will hold up)
Dan Jenkins
@danjenkins
May 20 2015 18:55
what kind of detail should I put into the proposal? should i include there will be a demo at the end etc etc?
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:55
@danjenkins or demo at the beginning that blows everybody away and then explain how it works
Dan Jenkins
@danjenkins
May 20 2015 18:55
oh thats a good idea!
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:56
how is WebRTC on Safari / iOS these days?
Dan Jenkins
@danjenkins
May 20 2015 18:56
safari non existant
ios available in apps
native*
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 18:57
let’s hope iOS 9 ships in time to have it in WebKit proper
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 18:57
@natdudley can you elaborate a little bit more on this? I think CSSConf.eu is better fit for strictly UX related talks, but I might be misunderstanding
Dan Jenkins
@danjenkins
May 20 2015 18:57
im not holding out any hope in apple sorting it any time soon :)
thanks for the ideas @janl
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 19:01
gotta disagree a little, I think @natdudley is still applicable for JSEU :)
Nat
@natdudley
May 20 2015 19:02
@thefoxis It's less about UX in the traditional tech sense of the word, and more about how we think about other humans.
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 19:02
(love the idea :)
(sorry @thefoxis)
Nat
@natdudley
May 20 2015 19:03
Probably has the most cross-over impact for js devs who build their own product or help clients make decisions about theirs.
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 19:04
@janl don't be sorry, my brain is asleep now, was just trying to grasp :P
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 19:07
@natdudley I think it is very applicable :)
Nat
@natdudley
May 20 2015 19:08
Okies. I will cobble together a more coherent summary :-)
Eve Maler
@xmlgrrl
May 20 2015 19:09
my favorite solution would be for devs not to have to learn infosec, tbh! standard security APIs, and common design patterns, should take most/all of the sting out and also contribute to a higher base level of sec for all
e.g., abstracting away auth methods for users is a good idea (don't rely on passsword auth - heck, next year it'll all be biometric EKGs anyway :-) ) and also saves you the trouble of doing it yourself
Nat
@natdudley
May 20 2015 19:10
Thanks @janl and @thefoxis
Eve Maler
@xmlgrrl
May 20 2015 19:11
then "privacy APIs" would be next (a la the work I've been doing around User-Managed Access)
Nat
@natdudley
May 20 2015 19:11
@xmlgrrl one of my current projects is essentially bootstrap for security design, heh. It needs to be a Thing.
Eve Maler
@xmlgrrl
May 20 2015 19:12
@natdudley love it
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 19:12
@xmlgrrl OMG YES THIS THIS
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 19:12
:heart_eyes:
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 19:12
@natdudley do you have a link for that?
Eve Maler
@xmlgrrl
May 20 2015 19:13
@natdudley maybe ping me offline? got an idea to try on you, then (eve.maler@forgerock.com)
Nat
@natdudley
May 20 2015 19:13
@mikemaccana Not yet :-)
@xmlgrrl will do
Mike MacCana
@mikemaccana
May 20 2015 19:13
ack :shipit:
Eve Maler
@xmlgrrl
May 20 2015 19:14
for anyone here also inclined towards Java (don't give me that look :-) ), if you're curious about the UMA stuff, check out forgerock.org/openuma
Omid Hezaveh
@omidfi
May 20 2015 19:31
When will applicants hear back something? And will be some response to everyone? +/-
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 19:35
@omidfi end of June
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 19:36
and we’ll send everyone an email
Omid Hezaveh
@omidfi
May 20 2015 19:37
Thanks @thefoxis and @janl this chat was amazing :)
I sent mine!
Jonathan Kingston
@jonathanKingston
May 20 2015 19:40
Just really hope I get invited to talk as yeah; this has all been constructive and lots of brilliant ideas.
Marcel Pociot
@mpociot
May 20 2015 19:49
And it's great that you give this kind of support. There are a lot of other (bigger) conferences that really don't care about their speakers
Jeff Lembeck
@jefflembeck
May 20 2015 19:49
seriously, this was great to even look at and read through <3
Karolina Szczur
@thefoxis
May 20 2015 19:53
:sparkling_heart:
thanks to everyone willing to apply!
it's getting late in my timezone and I have to go but if anyone has :question: ping me through email karolina at jsconf.eu
Jan Lehnardt
@janl
May 20 2015 19:58
thanks everyone, same time zone here, I can be reached at jan@jsconf.eu :)
@thefoxis highfive
MooCow
@DannyCork
May 20 2015 20:29
is the cfp over ?
Marcel Pociot
@mpociot
May 20 2015 20:31
No, it's until the end of the month
Until May 31st 2015, 23:59:59 CEST to be precise :D
Koshin
@kmariano
May 20 2015 23:02
I just had a question, I submitted two talks before the CFP was extended. Should I resubmit them?