These are chat archives for linkeddata/dokieli

8th
May 2017
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 10:24
Hi!, @csarven! I could not find a Journal publication about dokieli. Are there any? I'm writing my publication to a conference in Russia, and I'd like to cite Your research as a journal publication.
Best regards, Evgeny.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:04
@eugeneai http://csarven.ca/dokieli-rww was recently peer-reviewed and accepted at http://icwe2017.webengineering.org/ (in July at Rome)
There will be an open access version published by Springer etc but who knows when that'll be out.
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:05
Ok, thanks. What about published in SCOPUS or WoS?
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:05
May I suggest that you include the URL to http://csarven.ca/dokieli-rwwin your references?
What about them?
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:06
No problem with inclusion.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:06
Thanks
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:06
Are there any publication of dokieli in a SCOPUS or WoS Journals.
?
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:06
No
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:07
Ok. They will be. I'll put the reference and note it with (to appear) ;-)
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:08
You can cite along the lines of:
Capadisli, S., Guy, A., Verborgh, R., Lange, C., Auer, S., Berners-Lee, T.: Decentralised Authoring, Annotations and Notifications for a Read-Write Web with dokieli, ICWE 2017, http://csarven.ca/dokieli-rww
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:09
I think the the your results should be published in Semantic Web Journal.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:09
You should contact ICWE and ask what would be the best way to cite.
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:09
Ok, I've copied.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:09
Any particular reason?
Oops.. just a sec. correction to the citation
Updated text above.
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:11
The final version of my paper is due to 1 july. To that time the rest of the data about Your paper will be ready.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:11
Where are you contributing your work to?
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:12
Here in Russia, we are forced to make Journal publication on SCOPUS ans WoS to be competitive to Progressive West. ;-)
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:12
:S
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:13
It is a conference ЗОНТ (umbrella), meaning Knowledge, ONtologies and Theories - 2017 in Novosibirsk.
I made a prototype of a prototype of document composing JavaScript Library with some ideas taken from Your dokieli.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:16
Cool. Is it public?
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:17
http://math.nsc.ru/conference/zont/17/ - in Russian, but English papers and talks are also allowed.
In essence it is a kind of Workshop.
Final paper - 15. may.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:19
I meant your work / code.
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:19
yes.
It is on github.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:20
URL? :)
BTW, I messed you earlier on separate chat.
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:21
1 uSec...
https://github.com/isu-enterprise/isu.college
but it is a non-trivial mix of languages. I'd better install a working server in a week.
https://github.com/isu-enterprise/isu.college is another side of metaprototype. They have to be merged in one application.
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:26
The JS itself is in another server as it is a part of content.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:29
Do you have an example article up somewhere using this tooling?
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:30
2 mS.
It is 2 weeks old https://irnok.net/pages/ProgrammingTechnologies.html, and is generated with substitution of parts of another htmls.
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:37
taa:content="course:Б1.Б.11" - is a command to take a resource course:Б1.Б.11, denoted by 'id' attribute from another page (namespace 'course:' in body prefix attribute) and include it in the current document. The taa:content is to be adapted to resource attribute.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:37
COol, I see a few places where it resembles dokieli or borrowed from.
BTW, s/manip http/manip: http/
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:38
Yes. The idea and original RDFa markup is Yours. First time I even placed do.js on the page, but I need make the page editable partially as some parts are fixed.
That's why I need a reference to Your work.
The 'course:' is generated from a study plan xls document.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:44
IS there a server dependency or all on the client side?
See if you can integrate do.js and do.css etc in there.. that way you get free annotation and all that other stuff for free.
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:48
Yes, as in the documents we need a declination library. Russian language is complex enough to load all rules in browser memory; processing xls is also a complex recognition task. But in any way LOD allows me to use the server resources generating parts of the document, which are not to be edited.
I need to examine do.js, I'm new in JS programming in my 42. Almost 20 years I've used Python+C, but the task forced me to JS.
I've introduced a sentence, that the RDFa markup are based on dokiely. As well as the results are to be integrated to do.js version. ... for free.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 14:55
I'd be curious to know how international can be improved in dokieli. If you have any suggestions, please raise an issue and lets improve. It'd be good to know also the font families you work.
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 14:58
International what?
I use Times New Roman for t he documents as it is required, but like Fira font families and ParaType, that was designed thanks to Russian foundation of fundamental research. ;-)
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 15:00
See also lines 627, 963, and the async attribute - it should have a value probably eg async="true"
Evgeny Cherkashin
@eugeneai
May 08 2017 15:02
ok. I'll correct after paper will be ready.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
May 08 2017 15:02
And again, see my direct messages to you (not in this channel)