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Francesco Ceruti
@francesco.ceruti:matrix.org
[m]
Hi! I'm not sure, I need to test if it works, but, if you're running pipewire, you should be able to wire all audio inputs/outputs in same way
Mitsch Jarosch
@mitschja_gitlab
Yeah, should be that way… Probably I'm missing something in the configuration of pipewire.
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The apps that work with pipewire/jack are showing a "quant" and "rate" of 0 - which is strange…
Francesco Ceruti
@francesco.ceruti:matrix.org
[m]
@mitschja_gitlab Sorry, I've checked again, and I cannot make it work consistently 😢. I did some debugging and as far I can tell, pipewire-jack is still notifying a change in the buffer_size. As @edogawa23 said you can still use other output types, albeit you loose the ability to change the connections inside LiSP.
Mitsch Jarosch
@mitschja_gitlab
…untill gstreamer fixes that, right?
Francesco Ceruti
@francesco.ceruti:matrix.org
[m]
Francesco Ceruti
@francesco.ceruti:matrix.org
[m]
@mitschja_gitlab: the issue with gstreamer should be fixed with pipewire 0.3.51
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T.M.
@Pulecz
hello
I'm using linux-show-player 0.5.3-1 from AUR on Arch Linux - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-show-player and when I setup simple sesion with audio cue I can play it, seek it, etc fine, bun whenever it ends I get:
gst-stream-error-quark: Internal data stream error. (1)
details:
../gstreamer/subprojects/gstreamer/plugins/elements/gstqueue.c(992): gst_queue_handle_sink_event (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstURIDecodeBin:uridecodebin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/GstVaapiDecodeBin:vaapidecodebin0/GstQueue:queue0:
streaming stopped, reason not-linked (-1)
we talked about lsp on libera's #opensourcemusicians and I was told to report this here
to @francesco.ceruti:matrix.org ^
T.M.
@Pulecz
no error reported in console, only in GUI with this gstreamer, I need it for few other applications, but I'm not sure how this can be linked
the issue is same with -git version: 0.5.3.r278.39aba467 and I'm trying appimage now
T.M.
@Pulecz
hmmm, that fails to load modules: gst_backend, media_info, replay_gain and I can't even add media cue, due to backend not being loaded
no such issues with the aur version, could my python packages be somehow an issue?
s0600204
@s0600204
Hi @Pulecz, what file format is the media you're playing?
T.M.
@Pulecz
this is mkv, downled from youtube
oh important thing about this error that after I get it I can't play the audio cue again
aha, I tried acc recording from phone and that works fine, ok
althought there is no seekbar compared to mkv
so if I choose youtube-dl -f 140 ---- m4a audio only tiny
T.M.
@Pulecz
ye, problem solved, don't use videos as audio cues :-)
T.M.
@Pulecz

oh important thing about this error that after I get it I can't play the audio cue again,

but I can play others

and seekbar is resolved after saving and starting the panel again
T.M.
@Pulecz
oh neat, I saw the mail letter, thanks
s0600204
@s0600204
Hi folks, I recently used LiSP to play the music for a show put on by a local dance school.
LiSP being used on a Dance School
Of particular note: the laptop depicted is running Windows 10.
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otto_richter
@otto_richter:matrix.tu-berlin.de
[m]
Interesting, but why would someone do this? 😂
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I'm currently struggling to run some proprietary windows software on Linux, because I haven't found a free software alternative to noise level measurement, but vice versa 🤔
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Having an easy solution to running LiSP on non-Linux machines might of course be a big potential for the adoption of the software.
otto_richter
@otto_richter:matrix.tu-berlin.de
[m]
I'll look at REW. We just need a software with calibration, then level calculation of the raw input signal (max levels etc have already been determined by a service company), and then logging of these values / when we are exceeding them. But I haven't yet found a software with C-weighted calculation and all that stuff.
Last year we were using LevelCheck.de, but I didn't get it to detect the licence dongle with Wine. Considering to try ReactOS for that job. But someone in the project might also offer an old windows laptop.
I'm also considering if it might be feasible to write our own software, starting with the calculation, calibration and logging part, and doing the GUI later (we sadly need it very urgently, first event on the stage is May 31st, and we'll be busy enough till then, but if someone's open to join, this would be awesome)
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otto_richter
@otto_richter:matrix.tu-berlin.de
[m]
There was this discussion about the linux trademark and Linux Show Player. Was there a solution for this? I recall Francesco Ceruti wrote to the Linux Foundation?
s0600204
@s0600204
Issue #224? - An application was made; whether a response was received has not been stated.
Any particular reason you ask?
Edgar Aichinger
@edogawa23
IANAL either but isn't that a hypothetical issue? what about software named like lsp-plugins(linux studio plugins), linuxsampler, I've never heard a concern like that for those (didn't search actively either)
fpesari's motivation to ask might be that he's part of the GeekosDAW project, trying to unite efforts in packaging ProAudio software for openSUSE
I'm also taking part there, and have created a linux-show-player rpm package from 0.6.0dev
Edgar Aichinger
@edogawa23
we still don't have proper communication channels beyond private mail and open build service submitrequests, so I haven't talked a lot to him or other project members, I just got invited to be part of it because I have made and/or maintained quite some multimedia stuff in the past
stuff meaning packages, not writing applications or something
Francesco Ceruti
@francesco.ceruti:matrix.org
[m]
I've never received an answer after submitting the request, aaand kind of forgot about it. I'll write an email to their dedicated inbox for some clarifications. Their "do you need a sublicense?" it's a bit confusing, at least when I apply my concept of "trademark", and some of the required information in the request don't make much sense for LiSP.
otto_richter
@otto_richter:matrix.tu-berlin.de
[m]
I'm currently considering to switch to the 0.6 version in our productions. How many people are already using it? How is the general state?
I can mostly live with "weirdnesses" (e.g. display glitches, UI bugs, edit thingy x behaves weird sometimes), as long as it remains usable (no crashes, no dropouts etc)
We're not using it very often, most events are live music. We had two shows with 2 or 5 cues (nothing special) recently, but I know there are two theatre plays / musicals planned, and I'd like to make the decision early.
Edgar Aichinger
@edogawa23
@otto_richter:matrix.tu-berlin.de I use it since 2 years, but not very often; generally i found it stable enough to never think of going back (it can't read 0.5. show files though, IIRC). But you'll remember we talked in january about the few and rather rare problems I had with individual sound cues staying silent during a theater piece, but playing perfectly at a second try after the show...something i haven't been able to reproduce in a consistant way so I cannot claim itÄs a bug and not user error...
I rather work with QLCPlus these days as I'm the lighting guy in our theater
s0600204
@s0600204

Speaking personally, I've been using 0.6 since at least late-2018; and started doing so because I wanted to create a plugin to provide functionality I desired and - considering that the internals are substantially different between the two versions - didn't want to end up having to vastly rewrite it when 0.6 was eventually promoted to master.

I transitioned to using 0.6 fairly quickly, so don't have much experience with 0.5 to compare with; however I do sometimes "revert" briefly so as to aid the debugging of issues raised by other users, and find that of the two the UI of 0.6 is better. Certainly less monochromatic! I also don't think 0.6 (in its current state, anyway) is any more prone to crashing than 0.5 is; and 0.6 is certainly better featured.

It is worth noting that quite a few of the issues raised and feature requests made against 0.5 over the past couple of years can be resolved by using 0.6 instead (which is where the lack of cross-compatibility with regards to show-files is unfortunate).

That said: 0.6 is the current edge of development of the software; so there is some level of inherent instability in the fact that the code changes every so often - sometimes causing config files to be reset to defaults, and sometimes breakage in functionality. (Though this can be mitigated by only updating to the latest 0.6 state when safe: e.g. at the start of rehearsals, and not right before a performance...)

otto_richter
@otto_richter:matrix.tu-berlin.de
[m]
okay I see. Well, if 0.6 is somewhat stable, I'd propose to suggest users to use it and improve in smaller iterations. Reducing breaking changes and improving showfile compatibility is of course necessary then.