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    Jeremy Woertink
    @jwoertink
    :joy: that's awesome!
    Stephen Dolan
    @stephendolan
    By default it'll give you a nifty lucky-next CLI tool that's running master
    But you can always override your current lucky CLI if you like to live dangerously
    Matthew McGarvey
    @matthewmcgarvey
    I'm not able to run avram's script/test locally right now. After updating the Dockerfile to use 0.35.1 this spec pauses the tests asking for a password
    Jeremy Woertink
    @jwoertink
    Someone else had that same issue...
    I don't run the specs through docker though
    I updated my /etc/hosts so db points locally, then added the lucky developer to postgres
    @matthewmcgarvey are you on Linux?
    Matthew McGarvey
    @matthewmcgarvey
    No, mac
    Jeremy Woertink
    @jwoertink
    That's strange
    Are you able to run it outside of docker?
    Matthew McGarvey
    @matthewmcgarvey
    So the tests worked for me when I moved the database to the brew installed postgres but it asks for the password when I try to use docker
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    Jeremy Woertink
    @jwoertink
    I don't think it's been deployed yet, but https://github.com/luckyframework/website/pull/406/files
    I think that's what @mwlang ran in to
    Jeremy Woertink
    @jwoertink
    Hey everyone! Lucky 0.24.0 is out. We will do the whole big announcement and blog post stuff after the weekend, but please play with it.
    If you find any issues, I'll be around the whole weekend, and I can release a patch update if I somehow missed something
    Edward Loveall
    @edwardloveall
    AND we are moving from Gitter to Discord! https://discord.gg/HeqJUcb
    please head on over there and sign up. if you already have a discord account you can use the same account there
    and set your name to whatever you like (it can be different from other discord servers even on the same account)
    we'll be phasing out gitter over the next while
    i'll be here pointing people toward the discord room
    Bruno Perles
    @brunto
    Congratulations for the version 0.24.0
    Why moving to Discord?
    Håkan Nylén
    @confact
    @brunto my question exactly. been discussions about it but never thought it was decided.
    Edward Loveall
    @edwardloveall
    hey folks! we are moving to discord because gitter has been pretty unsupported the last couple of years. it's one advantage is that it's easy to sign up via github (which is really nice!) but discord is also easy to sign up for (through other means) but it has lots of other nice features: much better mobile support, reactions to not clutter up the chat, and far less weird little bugs
    the core team has been talking about it for a while now, although that hasn't been visible. we went back and forth a few times on it and didn't want to involve the wider community in the indecision
    Håkan Nylén
    @confact

    I am in some discords but never active there anymore. Most of the time I spend there is to talk to my brother and friends to play a game or two. Which never happen anymore since I got a kid.

    I am a bit anti slack and discord nowadays, been considering removing Discord for a while now. I would even think Telegram would be better than discord. Mostly because of Discord's privacy: https://archive.is/DG5KV and https://stallman.org/discord.html

    What makes me most anti are:

    Compiles aggregate data on user demographics, interests, and behavior. Discord reserves the right to share this with current/future partners and third parties, and at NO point communicates how long Discord, its partners, or these mystery third parties store all of this data.

    and:

    "Personalizes" advertising through tracking and advertising platforms may collect this data for use outside of Discord.
    Does not mention how long all of the data above is kept for, and again lazily refers you to the Privacy Policies of anyone they give your data to if you want to know what happens to it.

    and that they force people to add phone numbers in some situations.

    They might have changed this since that Reddit was written. But it won't change the attitude they have towards privacy.

    Edward Loveall
    @edwardloveall
    that's a really good point @confact
    our goal with this chatroom (or any chatroom) is building the community and supporting developers. it was becomming harder to do that on gitter, and we hope it will be better on discord. you're right to point out the privacy issues. We're going to at least try discord for now but that might change in the future!
    Edward Loveall
    @edwardloveall
    and so you know, I don't even disagree with you that those are bad privacy policies. I don't like that at all. I'm also looking at other tradeoffs of useability and practicality and discord is coming out ahead right now
    Håkan Nylén
    @confact
    I am okay with you testing it. I can use github discussions when needed :)
    Joel
    @da1nerd
    Lucky is configured to use sendgrid out of the box for emails. I tried signing up for a sendgrid account and they flagged my sign up request for a manual review and ended up denying me an account because "we've determined that you are not a good fit for our platform." Obviously this was incredibly annoying, but I'm not trying to complain about the service here.
    I was just wondering a) has anyone else had any problems signing up? If so maybe a different email service should be the default? And b) is there a ready made plugin for a different email service such as mailgun?
    Edward Loveall
    @edwardloveall
    Hey @neutrinog ! sorry to hear about your troubles :disappointed: Can I direct your question over toward our new discord server? We just transitioned our new community over there. https://discord.gg/HeqJUcb
    Jordano Moscoso
    @PlayLights_twitter
    @neutrinog I had that problem in the past, I had to create a new account and validate my domain, but you can use any shard for sending emails, I used one for sending emails with a gmail account
    Joel
    @da1nerd
    thanks. I'll switch to the discord server.
    Michael Lang
    @mwlang
    meh, I'm gonna have to come back to this discord thing...I've lost access to my "mwlang" account somehow....haven't used Discord in a while, either. Seemed like last time I used it, it was attempting to track anything and everything I was doing. Little Snitch was not happy with Discord last go around.
    any chance to build a bot to bridge the gitter/discord divide?
    or leverage existing ones out there... https://matrix.org/
    Bruno Perles
    @brunto
    You also have RocketChat @mwlang
    Why not using slack? I know it’s not free but I think it’s a little bit better than Discord and Gitter no?
    Edward Loveall
    @edwardloveall
    @mwlang sorry to hear that. I do wonder if there's an alternative discord client that would be more comfortable
    A bridge might work. they're generally not the nicest solution though
    @brunto I'm not sure about rocketchat or slack as far as data collection/privacy
    that's not to say that they are bad, but I wouldn't assume that they are
    Bruno Perles
    @brunto
    Ok so irc is the best solution :) I want to launch again irssi
    Edward Loveall
    @edwardloveall
    it's a nice one, but IRC is pretty intimidating for lots of people. we wanted it to be easy to join
    Bruno Perles
    @brunto
    Yes I know ;)
    Michael Lang
    @mwlang
    RocketChat is a great open source solution, but does require standing up a server and hosting the community. I hosted a server for about 12 months and every other upgrade was breaking the system. I wonder if the Rocket Chat folks have stopped breaking their release cycle since.
    Edward Loveall
    @edwardloveall
    oh interesting
    Michael Lang
    @mwlang
    rocketchat is a really nice slack clone....not sure how close to feature parity it still is since Slack has been innovating rapidly lately.