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    Rik
    @blahah
    cool - you seem to have acquired a load of phd students really fast!
    how does that work? In the UK they usually apply directly to work with a particular supervisor
    as opposed to applying to the university, then choosing a supervisor
    same in the US?
    Rob Patro
    @rob-p
    Usually the other way here,actually
    First you're admitted to the university then you have to find an advisor
    At Stony Brook (in CS) the students are supported as teaching assistance for their first year
    This gives you a chance to work with each other for a bit without the employer/employee dynamic
    Which is why I have 3 students currently ;)
    Rik
    @blahah
    ah I see
    interesting system - in the UK the student is never employed by the supervisor (and rarely by anyone at all) - they get tax-free living allowance from their funders, usually a research council
    Rob Patro
    @rob-p
    Especially since none of them exhibit the @blahah level of extreme academic independence! :)
    Rik
    @blahah
    if I wanted to I could change supervisor and take my funding with me, as I brought it in
    lol!
    Rob Patro
    @rob-p
    Yes; quite a unique (and admirable) situation!
    Rik
    @blahah
    not unique in the UK though - pretty normal
    although having the guts to change supervisor is extremely rare
    my other half, Steph, did - took her funding and moved to another lab after deciding she was ... ethically unaligned ... with her supervisor
    it caused quite a scandal
    Rob Patro
    @rob-p
    Really? Having your own funding as a student is very rare in the US
    Unless you have a fellowship (NSF) or some such
    Rik
    @blahah
    I think almost all UK science PhD students are funded by research council studentships
    and some by charitable or philanthropic grant-making organisations
    a relatively small number are funded directly on a project
    Rob Patro
    @rob-p
    Wow, that's very interesting to me. I wonder how the experience differs in the UK vs. US based on that
    Rik
    @blahah
    we also tend to finish in 3 years here, sometimes up to 4
    and there is generally no taught component - it's entirely research
    but secondary schooling and undergrad go deeper and less broad than the US system
    Rob Patro
    @rob-p
    Yea I know about the course-req differences
    Didn't know the timeframe was shorter though, but that makes sense with research being the sole focus
    Matt MacManes
    @macmanes
    So @Blahah whats the word on the feeding manuscript? I feel our momentum has grinded to a hault - also, seems that some of the stuff we had planned on doing (merging assemblies from >1 assembler) is now a part of the main transrate manuscript, so I’m not really sure where we stand..
    I’m happy to continue on as a solo effort if you are otherwise occupied.
    Rik
    @blahah
    hey
    momentum has stalled for me on everything the last few weeks, sorry
    Steph has been pretty unwell so I have been looking after her most of the time
    Matt MacManes
    @macmanes
    everything ok?
    oh dude.. I’m really sorry to hear
    Rik
    @blahah
    various things, but most seriously a kidney infection
    seems to be clearing up now though, and baby is fine
    just that she's in pain all the time
    Matt MacManes
    @macmanes
    wow.. alright, lets save talking about manuscript for another time.
    Rik
    @blahah
    we are actually leaving merging out of the transrate paper, because we're not sure it works as expected
    Matt MacManes
    @macmanes
    katie was really sick for several of her pregnancies. It was terribly nerve wracking
    Rik
    @blahah
    sorry to hear that
    yeah it's stressful
    evolution really screwed women with pregnancy
    Matt MacManes
    @macmanes
    no shit..
    its no wonder pregnancy relatd mortality was high pre modern medicine.
    Rik
    @blahah
    yeah!
    on the ms, I am very interested in doing it still