I also have trouble with working through a problem in latex. But I think with lots of grammar customization it should work. Just the difference going from "x-ray underscore number one" to "x-ray score one" already helped a lot.
I think lyx is much better suited as you can at least see what you are doing. For me the biggest hurdle is actually navigating within a formula in lyx. And I have not found a work around for that yet...
Would definitely be worth a try I think:
https://www.mackichan.com/index.html?products/dnloadreq55.html~mainFrame
There is none of the "nested boxes" nonsense you get in lyx
@mrob95 I would definitely be interested to hear if you find a good free alternative to scientific notebook.
@knork_gitlab I don't think grammar customization can entirely solve the problem of it being hard to work through problems in LaTeX. I am so "fluent" in the mathfly LaTeX grammar (with a few personal modifications) that I can transcribe entire mathematical expression/equations from a written form with essentially no pauses. (In fact, I may have broken the grammar complexity rules by dictating too much without pausing. See discussion above.) So, I have absolutely no challenges taking an equation in my head and inputting it to the software. That mapping is so ingrained that I sometimes accidentally use a phonetic alphabet when speaking about math to others. So, I'm really not convinced that needing to remember how to speak expressions is a limiting factor for me. (Granted, I am pretty sure I have literally spent hundreds of hours dictating math with math fly...)
Where I run into trouble is the need to then operate on those expressions to create new expressions. When my expressions get long, it can be really hard to find the parts that I need with in potentially multiple lines of text in my text editor. This is especially true when there are many nested functions and it's hard to keep track of which curly braces go together. I think my issue really is related to the fact that written mathematical notation serves a purpose as essentially spare memory. It is really hard to hold a long expression in working memory, so the notation helps us keep track of all of the parts of an expression/equation. When my expressions get complex enough/long enough that I can't easily read and interpret the LaTeX source, I essentially lose the function of that extra working memory.
This does pose the question of whether an editor that does real-time compilation could be helpful. I suspect it could be, but then we have to worry about how that editor will behave with Dragon. Of course, the math fly commands themselves are just keystrokes and should be fine, but actual mathematical proofs also contain sentences. Having to open the dictation box (or remembering the "say" command) every time I need to place an 'and' between equations sounds pretty terrible. But it might be an idea worth looking into nonetheless.
Apologies, I'm significantly late to the discussion. @annakirkpatrick before using Castor and subsequently Mathfly I was toying with LaTeX as a means for getting around my RSI to do some courses in calculus and linear algebra. It didnt take long to run into the same problems as you describe i.e., difficulty editing LaTeX source code and keeping all the elements of the expressions in my head.
To address the latter problem for some time I was trying to get some form of LaTeX live preview going in Vim whereby the LaTeX output would update in real-time. But there was still the problem of editing the source code in amongst all those brackets!
In the end, as I had already purchased MathTalk before this out of desperation (and found basically useless) I already had scientific notebook installed. The combination of scientific notebook + Mathfly was sufficient for me to get through calculus and linear algebra. Im currently working on probability theory for a data science master's and things are going well.
Using scientific notebook for me has solved both the editing mathematics problem and eliminated the need to keep all mathematical expressions in your head as it is displayed readily in SN. Hence I was able to manipulate algebraic expressions while simultaneously trying to work out the problem in question like you described.
The caveat here is that you are probably working on a much higher level of mathematics than me so I can't say for sure whether the same will apply to you. This is especially pertinent given the fairly steep pricetag for MathTalk.
But in short, I have found the combination of MathFly + Scientific Notebook enough for me to successfully navigate my mathematics courses. Whether that's any use for you I don't know.
I don't have a huge amount of experience with programs like that but I know a few people have recommended TeXmaker to me and it seems pretty good - you can have the document in the left pane and the rendered output in the right.
In general I would say that an editor that is good for keyboard users will also be good for use with Mathfly - there is nothing particularly special about dictating since it is just emulating keystrokes.
Okay the changes in this pull request should get you started
https://github.com/mrob95/mathfly/pull/22/files
You can either re-download all the files from the new branch (https://github.com/mrob95/mathfly/tree/texmaker), switch branches using git if you're familiar with it, or manually download the new file and make the settings change. Let me know if you have issues getting it set up though.
I hope that the texmaker.py file is reasonably self-explanatory, feel free to add new shortcuts as you need them
Hello @mrob95
I have a question - I am trying to install and use mathfly following the instructions on the website. When launching dragon I keep getting one error in "Messages from Natlink":
No handlers could be found for logger „monitor.init“
I already tried reinstall Natlink, and also run "pip install dependencies.bat" , but I got the error anyway.
Thanks in advance for help.
@David_Kostak_gitlab Hi! Have you tried using any of the mathfly commands? Do they work? This may be something you can safely ignore.
If not then the first thing to try would be to make this change to the _mathfly_main.py file - moving the logging stuff before the dragonfly import. The window should then show whatever it is that is being logged
Let me know
@mrob95 Hi! Thanks for your answer and help.
Mathfly commands behaves strangely. On one hand when I use expessions as fraction, product, integral, plus or minus, Lyx writes what it´s supposed to (as math expressions).
On the other hand expressions as x-ray, equals, bravo, alpha, or numbers are written in words.
So that's both hopefull and depressing :-)
I followed your instructions. The message is now: WARNING:monitor.init:DPI awareness could not be set; it has been set already.
Which doesn´t seem to be the real problem... I will be gratefull for any ideas what's wrong and what should I try to do.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you for this awesome piece of software!
I am a disabled student studying electrical engineering online at Arizona State University.
I was wondering if there is support for Scientific WorkPlace since it is made by the same company that makes Scientific Notebook. The reason why I was wondering about Scientific WorkPlace is because it has official LaTeX support, while Scientific Notebook does not (as far as I know).
@secretsquirrel89 Have you given LyX a try? I think I tried for a while to get scientific workplace 6 to work well and found it wasn't really set up well for keyboard input, but I can't remember exactly what the problem was.
If you find that there is something you could do in workplace that you can't do it either LyX or notebook then let me know and I'll try to have another look