These are chat archives for michaeljcalkins/developers

16th
Nov 2014
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 16:23
have you guys seen this https://koding.com/Hackathon
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 17:01
Looks pretty cool
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 17:02
for real! I just applied
seems like a long shot getting in though
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 17:04
Firebase & Meteor are great for getting stuff done quickly.
Yeah, it's fairly full already
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 17:20
What are you up to today Nial?
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 17:21
Honestly, enjoying quality family time! :)
You?
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 17:22
working on a searchable contact list with a 3d transform to display their info on the back
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 17:25
Lol, nice. My kids won't leave me near my laptop on a Sunday, so I installed Gitter on my iPhone. :)
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 17:26
they have an iOS app?
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 17:27
Oh yeah, notifications etc. it's pretty awesome!
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 17:28
I gotta get that right now!
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 17:50
Yeah I'm on my phone too
Hopefully gutter replaces irc
Gitter*
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 17:52
I agree
I'm about to bang my head against the wall right now
figure(id="card" class="col-md-5 col-xs-offset-1")
    div(class="side-a panel panel-default")
      h2(class="panel-body") Contacts
      div(class="panel-body" ng-repeat="contact in contacts | filter:search") 
        a(href="#") {{ contact.user }}

      div(class="side-b panel panel-default")
        h2(class="panel-body") test
#card {
  position: relative;
  transform-style: preserve-3d;
  transition: all .4s ease; 
  &:hover {
    transform: rotateY(180deg);
  }
  .side-a, .side-b {
    position: absolute;
    width: 100%;
    top: 0;
    left: 0;
    backface-visibility: hidden;
  }
  .side-b {
    transform: rotateY(180deg);
  }
}
the backface is not showing :worried:
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 17:58
What is your html?
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 17:58
it's above the scss in jade format
here's all the code
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 18:03
I'm thinking it has something to do with using bootstrap bc I've done this a bunch without it
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 18:28
I personally haven't used bootstrap since v2
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 18:37
I kinda hate bootstrap just wanted to try out the material design version
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 19:53
Whoa nial you’re offending 33% of the ppl in here
@camwhite I think this isn’t working because of browser prefixes. http://css3playground.com/3d-flip-cards/
Honestly I’d start by just getting it to flip and then start adding the angular stuff to it
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 20:39
Offended? How so?
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 20:40
Lol I’m kidding I know you like http://bourbon.io/
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 20:42
Honestly, I'm using Foundation these days.
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 20:43
Have you guys seen http://material-ui.com
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 20:44
Interesting...
I need to try React
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 20:45
I just watched an egghead.io vid on react yesterday
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 20:45
Or see a simple example of a comparable app
Worth investigating?
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 20:47
it seems like angular can do everything they showed in the example, but I am sure it does more than in the example
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 20:51
It's reactive so it's a little different
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 20:53
here the vid
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 20:55
Watching..
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 20:58
Michael I wanted to thank you for the angular basics YT series. It really helped me out when I was first trying to grasp Angular!!
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:01
Oh right on!
I wasn’t going super in depth, when I started no one explained each part like that to me xD
AngularJS 2.0 will be a lot more like React
I love the components idea that React is going for
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:03
What's the deal with Angular 2.0? Big changes??
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:04
I don’t think they made it clear they were looking for feedback
React looks super simple
And is probably faster than angular due to no digest cycle
which I’m not sure is really worth the trouble sometimes
2.0 is supposed to take advantage of futuristic browser abilities like Object.watch
but idk
(click)
(value)
makes me kinda meh….
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:11
just happened across this on the twitter
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:13
Angular 2.0 will use UI-router essentially
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:15
yay!
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:17
Yeah, you can build mini-apps and combine them all together
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:18
as different states?
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:18
I assume so
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:19
that's awesome :smile:
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:21
honestly
I feel like if they just deprecated controllers, services, factories, directives
introduced
angular.component
replaced ngRouter with uiRouter
bam!
No need for all of this angularjs 2.0 stuff
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:22
Yeah, directives are a pain atm
Once you get your head around modules, dependency injection with services & factories, routing, $scope and promises you’re good to go really.
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:24
exactly
all of my controllers look the sam
e
angular.controller(‘WhateverCtrl’, function($scope) {
  $scope.init = function() {

  };

  // various methods

  $scope.init();
});
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:25
I personally think that web dev should be much easier than what it currently is. I wholeheartedly prescribe to the ethos of Meteor and http://hood.ie
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:25
If I could somehow do what React does in angular I’d be set
I forgot about hoodie
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:26
You can replace the view layer with React afaik
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:27
Hmmm
I just want a simple class/object based approach to web dev with ease of development
Screw it I’m just going to write my framework
;)
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:28
Team up with Ken Wheeler - he knows his shit.
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:30
anyone here on google inbox?
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:30
Not yet - applied for it
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:30
want an invite?
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:30
Sure
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:30
email?
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:30
I'm not but I'd take an invite
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:30
(doesn’t work on google apps yet)
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:30
Can you use it for Google Apps for Business yet?
Damn
lol
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:30
Read my messages man!
;)
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:31
Sent at the same time :P
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:31
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:32
Sent both
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:32
Thanks man
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:32
I can trade you for an ello invite if you want
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:33
No worries I just use adblock
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:33
@camwhite Can I have one please?
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:34
sure
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:34
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:34
I really want to see what koding does though
If I could develop from any computer in the world and have my entire dev environment hosted
game set match
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:35
I never like the IDEs
Cloud9 etc.
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:35
It’s a hard nail to hit
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:36
Indeed
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:36
I just started playing with koding this am. It's a prettier version of nitrous.io
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:36
:P
If you ship an app with it let me know
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:36
nial I sent it to your digitaldelusions@gmail.com adress
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:37
thanks @camwhite
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:38
np
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:41
looks clean
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:41
right
I really do love the design
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:43
I must make something like this once I’m used to Meteor
and open source it :)
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:44
Personally I don’t think this stuff is as big a deal as they make it out to be
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:44
Michael I need you to send the invite to my gmail, sorry, cameronandcamera@gmail.com
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:44
manifest sounds like wikileaks
forward the invite to that email
I have a limited number of them to send
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 21:44
Oh it’s not - it’s just first world bullshit @michaeljcalkins
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 21:44
ahh cool
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:44
hahahaha

fairEnough

right this is markdown not twitter
hashtagFairEnough
nial you’d love this, at my work I’m literally rebuilding laravel into a spaghetti code
or taking spaghetti php and rebuilding a type of laravel out of it
just to organize it
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 21:50
Niall O'Brien
@niallobrien
Nov 16 2014 22:06
Lol
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 22:55
yo so I'm obviously not on your guys level, but it's awesome to have the opportunity to be here. Just wanted to throw that out there. It inspires me to be better :clap:
Michael J. Calkins
@michaeljcalkins
Nov 16 2014 23:16
:) glad to have you
Everyone’s on their own journey in this
Cameron White
@camwhite
Nov 16 2014 23:21
that's the truth