These are chat archives for nightscout/intend-to-bolus

3rd
Jun 2015
Ben West
@bewest
Jun 03 2015 03:03
@holgi13 that's awesome :-)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 03 2015 05:48
@holgi13 awesome!
Matthias Granberry
@mgranberry
Jun 03 2015 14:06
The Dana pump looks great. I wonder what it would take to make some molds to make a batch of insulin-safe luer lock adapters for it. I have to be picky about infusion sets
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 15:04
@mgranberry we had the same problems here, luer lock for the Dana Pump is a great step. It is possible to make adapters?If we get a large number of items together, it will be cheaper for each individual
Toby Canning
@TC2013
Jun 03 2015 15:05
What is the price for the pump?
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 15:08
The Link to the german Website from @diabeticgonewild had a price of 3650 Euro = 4112 US$
Toby Canning
@TC2013
Jun 03 2015 15:13
Not a bad price, I was just hoping you found better!
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 15:14
By the way - all 7 or 8 Insulin pumps on german market had the same price. This is due to our health insurance. To get the insulin pump are paid by a physician order of my Doctor, from the health insurance.
Witch is the price in USA for a new insulin pump?
Like the new medtronic 640G
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Jun 03 2015 15:38
As in germany almost all (non patch-)pumps are paid by public insurance, prices don't vary much from dealer to dealer and pump model to pump model.
@holgi13 , sorry, didn't see your last psot.
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 15:45
Witch is the price in USA for a new insulin pump?
Like the new medtronic 640G?
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Jun 03 2015 16:17
It's been a while since I purchased one, but actual rates are negotiated by each insurance company. 6 years ago I think the pre-negotiated rate for a 523 plus transmitter was US$7000
640G isn't yet available here
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 16:22
Actually, I thought that all medical products in the US market are more favorable than in Europe
Toby Canning
@TC2013
Jun 03 2015 16:24
Our insurance covered 100% and didn't disclose their negotiated rate
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 16:28
Our insurance in germany covered 100% too. The time to get a new pump is 4-6 years, my medtronic 554 is now 7 years old. So I want to get a new pump, the Dana R.
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 16:34
New pump is no problem, but the CGM is not for everyone, little childs get CGM, all the outer only if they are cases of hardship.
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Jun 03 2015 16:40
" Other infusion sets may be used if DANA Diabecare Universal Adaptor is utilized."
Also in a german book called "Insulinpumpenfibel" I thought I've read that such an adapter exists
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 03 2015 17:30
Most pumps in US are 5k+.
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 17:34
@AdrianLxM please help, I can't find other informations in the Manual_II.pdf? Please post a pic or photo of this universal Adaptor.
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Jun 03 2015 19:15
@holgi13, I have no pic, sorry. As I decided to get my pump in Austria instead of Germany I couldn't get the Dana.
You could either call the German distributor or the US-number in the manual.
How cool is this: I can change my postings with regular expressions if I put them in the chat line afterwards! (s/Germen/German/ )
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 03 2015 19:39
By the way, we will be at ADA Scientific Sessions this weekend, and they have a big exhibition hall with all the vendors. If there's any pending Qs for them let me know. 75% of time the exhibitors are sales folks and don't know anything, but occasionally there's someone who either knows or will directly connect to the folks who can answer. (Sooil is always there, that's where I first saw the DanaDiabecare pumps ~10 years ago.)
Ben West
@bewest
Jun 03 2015 19:40
ask SOOIL how we can help get R pump approved in US
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 20:28
adapter.jpg
I found this here on a Polish website?
It is possible this is luer-lock?
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Jun 03 2015 20:34
It looks like it is an adapter from luer to luer.
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 20:37
It seems like left-hand thread on the left side of the photo?
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Jun 03 2015 20:38
the end that goes into the pump looks like luer with left-handed thread ("Linksgewinde") like the Dana has and the other end looks like luer with right handed thread ("Rechtsgewinde") like the other pumps (t:slim, Roche befor Insight, Medtronic/Minimed with Orbit reservoirs)
to me it does: It is the part that goes into the pump.
and on the right the part where the infusion set connects.
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 20:40
@mgranberry so the adapter to luer is no problem :-)
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Jun 03 2015 20:42
The pump itself has LUER.
Just the thread is the probem. It also happens if you order their infusion sets for the Combo and they mix up right and left :-/
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Jun 03 2015 20:47
And: They will tell you that it is luer - but not the "but". In general they seem to have not that good a sales and maketing team. Thea are virtually unknown even in Germany.
Matthias Granberry
@mgranberry
Jun 03 2015 21:50
I would think the phone control thing would make a lot of sales happen. I know plenty of people that would like to tuck a pump away in a discreet location and not display tubing to the world, but don't want the problems that go along with patch pumps.
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 22:28
Where there is light there is also shadow, the Dana-R needs a very special battery. It is a creating of Sooil, there is no other compare type. So you need the sooil battery from Korea. Bad thing if you are in holiday, you can't buy this battery anywhere :-(
Holger Sanft
@holgi13
Jun 03 2015 22:37
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Uses only one 3.6 V DC Lithium Battery