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Sep 2015
Geramy
@Geramy
Sep 03 2015 00:28
@LorelaiL thanks for the link taking a look
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 07:09
@danamlewis sorry for the late reply. I have the openAPS logic, Treatments capture and visuals working for the Android app - right now getting my head around how Medtronic and Roche pumps differ. But, I am going to need help hacking the BT on the pump. It can be done as the Roche pump is being used in trails controlled by an App on a Android phone. As I only have one pump (mine) its difficult for me to recruit help, so I am desperately looking around for a old unneeded Roche Accu-Check Combo
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 03 2015 07:11
Have you asked in the CGM in the cloud Fbk group for an old pump?
And would you be willing to share your android work? We've been talking about translating openAPS to android and sounds like you've done a good chunk!
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 07:15
I have on a few FB groups and will be sure to spread that request some more today - yes most definitely will share! I just want to get the Bolus Wizard working and a few more tests on the OpenAPS code. FYI - my aim for the App is for it to replace the BT Remote for the Roche pump, so that it logs treatments and in the end can send them to the pump - so it will be of limited use to Medtronic users
But, the app is great for a dry run with OpenAPS, if you just want to capture your Treatments and see what OpenAPS will suggest
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 03 2015 07:18
Noting the differences, but will be great to have more android code to work with as a starting place since neither Scott or I have tons of Android experience.
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 07:18
anyone with Medtronic should chat to @Fokko as he is active on an Android app that interfaces with Medtronic pumps
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 03 2015 07:18
And maybe it will be a good standalone starter for people to start testing what the system might calculate and compare their own calculations and actions :)
Oh really? That's great to know. @Fokko May hear more from us (me or ScottLeibrand) soon with questions :)
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 07:19
@danamlewis sure thing, I am doing my best to keep the code simple and documented for others (and myself) - moving to a mobile for OpenAPS is great
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 03 2015 07:20
Agreed. I know several people who will jump on once they can skip Pis, and several who will get On anything that's easier than current setup
Thanks for all the updates!
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 07:21
no prob, will update the group soon with more info
Fokko Driesprong
@Fokko
Sep 03 2015 09:56

@danamlewis Sure, feel free to ask me. Please drop me an email or PM or so, I'm back from vacation and the new semester is starting, so I am currently a bit busy and don't always have the time to read up Gitter. Mostly it is a time-zone issue, when I wake up I always have 99+ in all channels.

Currently I am working with the European version of the RileyLink. Currenty I got an Enlite and I've implemented the calibration algorithm. I am experienced with Java, but did not do much with Android yet, so the work on the UI takes quite some time. The repository is maintained by @TC2013, drop him a line if you want to have access. Currently it is private because it is in very early beta and much work has yet to be done.

@GeoffWyche is able to communicate with the pump. I still got some troubles with the EU-frequencies and structural deficit of available time :smile:

Lori
@LoriLori
Sep 03 2015 10:22
somebody in trial with Roche? :)
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 10:24
@LorelaiL :)
Lori
@LoriLori
Sep 03 2015 10:24
it could be there is a special firmware in pump for trial maybe :(
couldn't find any BT 2 programmable board , that at least we could pretend to be pump or controler as we could change address
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 10:27
I have a ubertooth, but BT hacking is way beyond my abilities - looking to partner with someone in london
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 18:28
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Capture.PNG Last night result!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 03 2015 18:29
:)
Paul Andrel
@stavlor
Sep 03 2015 18:53
Nice @amazaheri
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 19:02
wow, that's cool, @amazaheri
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 19:15
well goal is to get some opt in from others running APS to anonymously share the openAPS activity so we can tie to ML and some predective analisys :)
Chris Hannemann
@channemann
Sep 03 2015 19:40

@audiefile update on the battery weight discrepancy:

Oh wow, you're right; just checked and it is nearly twice the weight of the one I'm using. 12,000 mAh @ 8.96 oz vs. 9,000 mAh @ 4.64 oz

I just got the one you have (the 12,000 mAh Vinsic Power Bank) and compared the weights
240 g (8.5 oz) for that one, which is pretty close to what they claim
185 g (6.5 oz) for the one I already had—the Tecknet 9,000 mAh—which is significantly more than they listed
So they're both about 20 g per Ah, which makes sense
JamOrHam
@jamorham
Sep 03 2015 19:51
@danamlewis I haven't followed this project closely so I may not be up with the required specifications, but I have used the http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta board for a few projects and I am wondering if it is a suitable alternative to the raspberry pi
Pete Schwamb
@ps2
Sep 03 2015 20:12
Wow, that looks like a neat device. Can’t believe how small things are getting!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 03 2015 20:17
I haven't heard of that one yet @jamorham will have to take a look! (And others if they beat me to it). Lots of alternatives to a Pi, just a matter of incorporating them :) (see earlier posts last night about android progress)
JamOrHam
@jamorham
Sep 03 2015 20:18
I think they are pretty cool and at a good price, it can suspend to ram with a small extra circuit so the power usage can be very low depending on what is being run on it. Its got gpio and usb hosts as well as the option for a little wifi board. I couldn't imagine carrying a raspberry pi in my pocket
anyway just a suggestion for anyone who is interested
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 03 2015 20:20
Yea Pi doesn't fit in my pockets for sure, esp w a battery!
Chris Hannemann
@channemann
Sep 03 2015 20:24
Gonna bring fanny packs back into style ...
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 03 2015 20:30
Haha @channemann Did you read my latest DIYPS blog post?
Fanny packs were mentioned
(It's the DIYPS wedding post but it's relevant to this discussion on usability)
Chris Hannemann
@channemann
Sep 03 2015 20:47
For sure. I've gone through a few different carry methods, finally settled on that Lowepro camera case I posted the other day.
Sits on my belt reasonably, and when I'm carrying a backpack, slides right into the water bottle holder.
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:09
I'm playing with intel edisons :-)
they are size of postage stampo
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:10
cheap and has BLT and wifi builtin :)
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:11
battery life is not super great, lasts a few hours on those rileylink batteries
but there may be a way to put it into some embedded mode and sleep most of the time
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:14
@jamorham wow that board is crazy small! how cool!
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:16
I have to admit, I do not see the future of openaps running on "small computers" - the smart phone is a much more suitable platform moving forwards. It has all the processing power and handles all the additional needs for visuals, input, network and battery
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:17
for adults yes, but for a 10 year old kid smartphone has other meanings
Rachel Sandlain
@audiefile
Sep 03 2015 21:17
@channemann it does make sense. It's one of those things you don't really think about until you carry it around all day then wonder what's so heavy in your bag! ;)
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:18
@amazaheri what do you mean? I am sure you can lock down the phone if needed
multiple profiles, etc
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:18
still not reliable
been there done that :)
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:18
it's a lot of work, I have yet to meet an 11 year who can resist using the phone for games/text
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:18
indeed
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:19
we could do iso for it that is locked down
but at that point, it's same amount of work to get a device that does the right thing
dunno if it's more or less work
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:19
would a phone with a lock screen where they do not know the pin not meet this need?
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:19
but it's a good question/debate
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:19
they can still shot it down accidentally
there are pros and cons
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:20
thing is you might need nurse/child to go in restart app or something
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:20
i definitely
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:20
yeah pros and cons
it's a good debate, I don't want to shut out either possibility
I don't know java, so for me, getting the embedded stuff working smaller and better is easier as a practical exercise
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:21
oh sure, but a mobile phone compared to a small computer + portable power etc i see more reliable
deffo pros and cons, agree
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:21
if we could create an android image, that would be really nice
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:21
like open source concept, bring your own device and just run it. Battery is an issue for sure
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:22
could go nuts and build a cyanogenmod image
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:22
yeah, that would be great :-)
I'd help get it built using continuous build system
publish to distribution channel on tag using wercker/travis etc
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:23
ill put that to the side projects ;)
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:23
or this
@bewest if you hack this one would be cool :L)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Sep 03 2015 21:28
@Fokko so you're working on RoundTrip codebase then? That's good: I already have access to that, just have to sit down and work with it sometime. :)
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:33
@amazaheri wow that looks awesome
@amazaheri if we could put some extra radios in there, could just teach it to follow sam around
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:33
:) $149 I am getting one Friday being a Star Wars nerd!
lol he is a Marvel fan
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:34
looks like it has to be kept clean perhaps
dunno what happens if it's sandy
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 21:34
his OpenAPS named Jarvis per his requet
lolo
be back in cpl hours!
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:37
@amazaheri ok, that is far too cool!
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:38
thats it, im dropping the openaps work! ;)
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:39
lol, wait what just happened
why not put openaps into the robot
then it can follow you around
instead of carrying the lazy thing
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:39
and charge itself, think we are on to something here
Ben West
@bewest
Sep 03 2015 21:39
right
deploy dozen around the house
hehehe
timomer
@timomer
Sep 03 2015 21:40
personal robots, are the future!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 03 2015 21:41
Sounds like a win to me ;)
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Sep 03 2015 23:26
look what i started lol
i should be kicked out of here
Paul Andrel
@stavlor
Sep 03 2015 23:37
Now why would we do that @amazaheri