These are chat archives for nightscout/intend-to-bolus

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Feb 2016
Matthias Granberry
@mgranberry
Feb 04 2016 01:04
My experience open-looping is that there aren't a lot of changes. It's mostly just random variation that it helps with.
Jason Curry
@mccgm
Feb 04 2016 01:34
@danamlewis Right now I only have Nightscout for my CGM. I need to figure out how to get the dev version so I can do visualization and upload my loop data.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 04 2016 01:40
Im making modifications to my basal for sure.
Due to Openaps and Nightscout data analysis.
@danamlewis , I love the idea of
Of basal recommendations, my primary goal of getting my loop going was to work on pinning down my basals more, perhaps that's a bit backwords but it is what it is. :-)
Rachel Sandlain
@audiefile
Feb 04 2016 02:06
:+1: For basal recs I didn't notice anything when I started looping but I had tried an open loop before (not openaps js)
Also if you havent, try raspberry soup. Its delicious
@mccgm
Rachel Sandlain
@audiefile
Feb 04 2016 02:12
This link is super dated and has a lot of other info, but about halfway down it walks you through setting up another branch in github and a second site. http://www.nightscout.info/wiki/labs/the-nightscout-iob-cob-website
I think the docs have info on uploading treatments
lizarragakevin
@lizarragakevin
Feb 04 2016 04:23
How i do to send a bolus? I type ($ openaps use <my-pump-name> bolus) and where I have to put the units?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 04:24
Highly recommend you don't send boluses
If you're testing comms with your pump, use a temp basal or ask for a model
But try adding -h to see some of the options for the openAPS commands
lizarragakevin
@lizarragakevin
Feb 04 2016 04:26
Ok thanks for recommendations
Sulka Haro
@sulkaharo
Feb 04 2016 11:48
@TC2013 tested, rebooting the Edison does not reset the blink. You have to power down by disconnecting LiPo AND USB power to remove the blink
Thinking of how to add an external lipo charger into the mix...
Oskar Pearson
@oskarpearson
Feb 04 2016 13:16
@sulkaharo I still think a custom board might be the way to go. Like PS2 had partial designs for - Edison + CC1110 + Lipo connectors on one board
I don't think the Intel Edison board has breakouts that'd work for any custom lipo charger
(unless we go up to 5v and back down again, which seems crazy)
The Sparkfun boards with their layering is closer to what we want - but they definitely have their problems, as I've mentioned
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 04 2016 14:24
@sulkaharo I've seen that resetting the RL can be done by issuing a halt and then plugging in USB power. Does that work for resetting the blinkenlight?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 04 2016 14:31
What are you doing for the Edison battery now? Swaping batteries so 1 can fully charge?
I never ordered a bigger lipo, I need to order something
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 04 2016 14:35
We have a 2000mAh one now: haven't drained it yet, but will keep an eye out for blinkenlight on long recharge.
Sulka Haro
@sulkaharo
Feb 04 2016 14:45
I'm swapping batteries; painful
Thinking of redesigning the case again to make that easy
@oskarpearson I was thinking of plugging a LiPo charger onto the mini board lipo pins? I guess that'd work assuming I don't simultaneously plug in USB
So charge using the LiPo micro usb plug, not using the Edison plug
Oskar Pearson
@oskarpearson
Feb 04 2016 14:52
So sharing the lipo output from the charger board with the battery and with the input to the Edison?
I'm not sure how the charger would handle that. The chargers have different modes depending on how flat the battery is (constant voltage and constant current and some other stuff I'm not sure I fully understand). If the Edison is drawing from the same connector as the battery input I'm not sure what'd happen to the detection process
it must be w fairly common use case though
You might need a specific pass through charger or something though
Sulka Haro
@sulkaharo
Feb 04 2016 15:24
Connect the output from charger board to Edison, use charger board to charge the battery? As in, not use the charge feature of the Edison board at all, just treat the LiPo pin as input.
Yeah the charger board needs passthrough - I think mine does. Need to check
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 04 2016 15:46
How would you connect that to the Edison?
Sulka Haro
@sulkaharo
Feb 04 2016 17:17
Arght I remembered the other power pins were 5v and up, but it's 7v and up :(
Theoretically you could solder that to the 5v USB input :)
I'm sure it'd cause something
Toby Canning
@TC2013
Feb 04 2016 20:54
Right now I am using our Edison's OTG cable to charge the Lipo battery connect via J2. Twice we've had data corruption when plugging in the charger. If I install a charger, like this (https://www.adafruit.com/products/1904), will it prevent this from occuring?
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 04 2016 21:05
or this https://www.adafruit.com/product/259 but i guess you might not need the extra OTG
Toby Canning
@TC2013
Feb 04 2016 21:06
i have that one too, but will it prevent the "surge" or whatever from happening?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 04 2016 21:07
do you have the git reset in your cron?
Toby Canning
@TC2013
Feb 04 2016 21:08
Yup
This last "surge" when plugging in messed with something outside of OpenAPS altogether. I reinstalled OpenAPS entirely, but still wouldn't talk to the pump
I got some of the radio comms going again when I ran sudo easy_install -ZU setuptools sudo easy_install -ZU openaps
But even then things were still messed up, so reflashed Linux and reinstalled OpenAPS again. Worked fine then
Bad way to do it, but that was our only working system and it was 11 at night
errr, "not-working"
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 04 2016 21:12
ug, makes me even more nervous able pulling the battery from the edison, think I'll do a shutdown when possible
Toby Canning
@TC2013
Feb 04 2016 21:13
Yes, I want to make a button that issues a shutdown halt script
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 04 2016 21:13
I'm hoping a small lipo and usb battery with pass though charging will be reliable
Toby Canning
@TC2013
Feb 04 2016 21:14
Good thinking
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 04 2016 21:19
sounds like that's what @scottleibrand is doing
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 04 2016 22:15
when I need to shut down the edison (for any reason other than lack of connectivity) I do a halt and then plug USB power in to restart it, so I don't have to touch the lipo
only time we have to unplug the lipo is when we lose connectivity and need to restart to get it back
amoskane
@amoskane
Feb 04 2016 23:05
hey guys, my openAPS just died. The 522 pump I swapped for got a BUTTON ERROR and Medtronic won’t troubleshoot it and won’t trade it. I’m so disgusted with them. They have thousands of those sitting around and they just won’t help me.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 04 2016 23:06
even if they wanted to help, they couldn't give you a new 522
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:06
Hey UK folks - are ya'll going to be around (or potentially able to make your way in) to London on 25-May or 26-May? @oskarpearson @timomer others?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 04 2016 23:07
they're only allowed to "upgrade" people to 523 or newer
so if your old 522 dies (as they all will: they're way out of warranty) you just have to get another one like you did the first, unfortunately
amoskane
@amoskane
Feb 04 2016 23:07
But I have noting to trade with now.
and no back up pump either.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 04 2016 23:08
what was your pre-openaps pump?
amoskane
@amoskane
Feb 04 2016 23:08
i’m back on it, a 530g
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:08
ok, good, so you have A pump, just not an openaps-compatible one
amoskane
@amoskane
Feb 04 2016 23:09
right, ya.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 04 2016 23:09
you can still pull pumphistory data from that and open loop with it if you set up notifications...
but you'll need to start working on acquiring another 522. :(
amoskane
@amoskane
Feb 04 2016 23:10
where have you guys had the best luck— craigslist?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:10
and Medwow
plus ask around local community groups in case anyone wants to donate the one in their closet
Oskar Pearson
@oskarpearson
Feb 04 2016 23:11
@danamlewis We'll definitely be available to meet up :)
@cjo20 ^^ About possible London meetup
Gluten Free Fish and Chips? :)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:12
@oskarpearson Excellent. :) Trying to coordinate a work trip (office in London) on top of vacation, but want to make time to see folks. And yes, @cjo20 and anyone else - please tag and I may also reach out to the Raspberry Pi folks, who expressed interested in a meetup too.
Oskar Pearson
@oskarpearson
Feb 04 2016 23:12
Ah, that'd be great
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 04 2016 23:19
How is the Animas and OnmiPod work going? Was just thinking that i am sitting on a new pump approval from insurance since my 723 is out of warranty. Wondering if i should start looking at new toys to be the backup for my trusty 722 :)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:19
Animas is being communicated with, but it only works with microboluses (no temp basals). No new progress to share from Omnipod.
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 04 2016 23:20
ah, ok
is the Omnipod cabable of looping? temp basal, etc
even if nobody has built it yet..
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:24
because you can temp from the PDM, theoretically, yes
the problem with animas is the ping remote only does boluses. so no way that we know of to do temps.
but possible with Omnipod's PDM.
Andrew Warrington
@andrew-warrington
Feb 04 2016 23:35
@danamlewis @oskarpearson I could possibly make my way to London around May 25/26. It's a short & cheap flight. Have always wanted to go through airport security with my APS to see what happens...
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:35
hehe. ok. stay tuned, i'm not 100% sure on the dates, but will confirm soon about what those dates look like. would be great to meet you all :)
Oskar Pearson
@oskarpearson
Feb 04 2016 23:36
@andrew-warrington :) Hopefully we see you on the 25/26, rather than on say the 30th once you make it out of the airport ;)
Andrew Warrington
@andrew-warrington
Feb 04 2016 23:38
@oskarpearson lol I know... I have a note from my doctor stating I need to carry an artificial pancreas device, but it isn't specific about the fact that the device is a bunch of soldered-together chips in an amateur-looking case with all kinds of flashing lights and a battery. :) :) I may just take it apart and put it in checked luggage....
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:38
FWIW, I've carried my setup in US and through EU with no problems at any security (Lisbon, Portugal as well as LHR in UK)
Andrew Warrington
@andrew-warrington
Feb 04 2016 23:38
cool
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:41
@scottleibrand had a harder time convincing security that ice was not a liquid (or beverage). I had no questions about my gear ;)
Andrew Warrington
@andrew-warrington
Feb 04 2016 23:42
did he get the ice through?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:43
If I remember correctly…no. Because the regulations over there say "beverage" or something. The US TSA lets you take ice through because it's a solid rather than a liquid. Whichever airport we were in (Lisbon I think?) was not impressed with @scottleibrand's scientific based argument.
Andrew Warrington
@andrew-warrington
Feb 04 2016 23:44
Would have loved to see the debate :D
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 04 2016 23:45
it wasn't as much of a debate as he would've liked ;)
Andrew Warrington
@andrew-warrington
Feb 04 2016 23:45
Lol... ok well yes they have the upper hand. Have a good evening all, need to turn in...