These are chat archives for nightscout/intend-to-bolus

26th
Feb 2016
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 26 2016 01:02
really great to see openaps mentioned on the big stage today and see props to @bewest and @danamlewis. Thanks for representing @HowardLook!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 01:03
:+1:
strange that it does not play at the right spot automatically. But you can jump to 2:02:52
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 01:06
includes a couple minutes of segue from Obama
I got that link by right-clicking and choosing "Copy video URL at current time"
Andrew Warrington
@andrew-warrington
Feb 26 2016 01:10
was awesome. i posted it on Facebook, LinkedIn, everywhere. :) Well done!
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 26 2016 01:16
yeah, it’s annoying that a time stamp link does not embed play from that spot.
Andrew Warrington
@andrew-warrington
Feb 26 2016 01:20
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well tried posting it myself as well but just doesn't work here on gitter it seems. :/
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Feb 26 2016 01:31
I've just watched through WH summit video, outstanding! :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1: for @HowardLook, @bewest, @danamlewis and openaps!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 01:32
:) :+1:
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 26 2016 01:34
I love the intro. it was kind of perfect.
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 26 2016 02:00
@brandonarbiter I’ve just learned that your APS is named after my friend Jeremy :)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 03:40
speaking of outstanding, finally got to meet @TC2013 since we happen to be in the same town at the same time! and @JaysonEwer too! :)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 03:44
It was a fantastic day! @danamlewis even signed my copy of pop sci. :-D. She said I need to come visit Scott to get his signature! :-). Having dinner with @danamlewis @TC2013 and @HowardLook was great! Please keep me in the loop for the next DC area meetup.
It was very good to meet you all in person as well.
Howard Look
@HowardLook
Feb 26 2016 03:58
Thanks all! Very proud to be a part of this incredible community and so thankful for all you do! Great to see you @danamlewis and wonderful to meet you @JaysonEwer and @TC2013 !
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 03:59
Same here, @HowardLook , it was a pleasure to meet you. Well done today with @POTUS !
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 04:08
Didn't know he had a github account, but no repos or
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 04:09
Ha. Someone did a good landgrab :)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 04:10
:-)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 04:12
My coworkers saw that and were speculating it might really be him, just holding it. :-)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 04:17
One of the better lines of the night, " What's the difference between a user and a developer?". When I mentioned to the Dr at the Happy hour that I was an OpenAPS user. I guess my answer to that would be, R-E-S-P-E-C-T! Thank you to all the true developers out there!! @scottleibrand @bewest, etc...
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 04:18
it's a continuum of pay-it-forwardness. there's always something more you can do, and every contribution is appreciated.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 04:19
:+1:
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Feb 26 2016 04:48
Awesome! I can access Gitter via the browser function in Voice Dream Reader app, and export the chat to a screenreader compatible format, so I can get text-to-speech support with my print related disability!
VoiceOver for iOS doesn't work with the Gitter app and Gitter is generally incompatible with screenreaders...
So now I don't have an excuse not to read the posts here!
Arghhhh! The highlighting function is messed up in the screenshot I uploaded! But it generally works extremely well!
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Feb 26 2016 05:09
But I am elated that I found a way to access Gitter via a nice screenreader
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 05:20
:+1: @diabeticgonewild
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 05:28
Just opened openaps/oref0#75 to merge latest meal-assist into dev
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 05:31
Hi Scott, to set up meal assist, how involved is it? Do I need to move my whole rig to the dev branch? I'm currently running 0.0.9
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 05:31
Would love to start getting some more eyes on it.
This script is getting a bit dated, but is still the best we have (until someone writes up some better docs, hint hint): https://gist.github.com/scottleibrand/63a8541397378bf9f4b8
you probably want to run each line manually, not try to execute the whole thing at once
as some of them will fail in your environment and need slight modifications.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 05:36
Ok, thank you. I was planning on incorporating the newer features into my Edison rig once I got that operational, but im thinking I need to get moving on them sooner rather than later.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 05:37
at this point you might want to switch straight to the meal-assist branch (if you do it before we merge to dev)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 05:37
:+1:
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 05:40
So just running the before mentioned script line by line will do that for me?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 05:44
there are two things. one is to get the meal assist code, by installing from source and switching to the dev or meal-assist branch
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 05:47
I'm so sorry to get you all spun up, thanks so much for your willingness to help, I'm pretty tired and don't want to rush this before going to bed. I'll tackle this tomorrow.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 05:49
sorry, never finished my sentence. the other thing is to get the meal assist reports set up to enable all of the meal assist features that require knowing about carbs etc.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 05:53
Ah, ok, thanks again. I'm heading to bed now. Good night.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 06:06
Laters
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 07:23
there are lots of things you make bets on or try to design for, making things easier to use vs easier to understand vs easier to distribute vs easier to collaborate, but it's utterly humbling and jaw dropping to see POTUS segue into @HowardLook explaining openaps inside of a minute... no one can see that coming
eyim
@eyim
Feb 26 2016 07:44
I agree - amazing. It only took 1 year to go from Dana closing the loop to POTUS discussing it. Great job to everyone involved
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 07:51
what I find amazing is how far back @bewest started working on this and that he's still going, repo after repo, key tool or feature after the previous, we're all just users
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 07:57
aw shucks, others have filled in key gaps, can't do it alone
eyim
@eyim
Feb 26 2016 08:00
I agree - still driving this forward with amazing passion. Can't wait to see the new daemon stuff @bewest is working on.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:01
impossible to do it alone, but there's an interesting lag from the time you create something to when it really starts getting used
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:01
oh, yeah, I had years of practice to find the ways that don't work
there's an interesting interface between culture/society/technology
the daemon stuff has been giving me gray hairs
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:07
the prototype is semi-usable, but doesn't offer much reason to switch to it
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:08
xdrip seems like the killer feature
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:08
hmmm
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:08
when you need the deamon
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:08
how does one flash the xdrip?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:09
the wixel utility, I've used the mac version
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:09
ah, is there linux?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:10
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:10
I get same sense that xdrip would be killer
that + g5
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:11
@jstevensog has a build that should help, @sulkaharo was interested too
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:11
use jstevensog's thing
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:11
there are a limit with the number of uarts on the edison
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:11
yeah, he designed that based on my input/complaints ;p
2 I believe?
was thinking usb?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:12
and 1 is console
I was hearing spi
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:12
hmmmmm
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:12
but not an area I know much about
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:12
I've been working on a daughterboard with cc1111, battery charger
think there's 4 or 5 similar things going on
I'd be willing to shell out some cash to get this done
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:13
yeah
do an other run
if the same hardware worked for MM, ping, g4, g5
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:14
yeah, that's another game changer...
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:15
guess it could do DanaR too
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:15
and the uh...j&j? roche?
is plain bt also
this would unite them all
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:17
I got pingrf flashed to a ti stick, that it's the same hardware is crazy
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:17
means someone at TI did a really good job
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:17
and with cc-bootloader you could swap firmwares from the edison at runtime
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:17
or we could merge firmwares
future is bright there
either way
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:18
I mean the same pump site works with tubing from MM and Animas
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:18
oh wow
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:18
same rig, swap pumps
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:18
is that the waterproof one?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:18
take the ping to the beach, use the mm at night
yeah
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:19
interesting
fascinating
when were these released? do they have a known pipeline?
wonder if we can finally hit medtronic in the wallet then
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:19
they still sell them, the vibe came out later same body, but no remote and g4
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:20
say fine.. you won't work with us, we'll send our business elsewhere
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:20
I wonder if J&J would pull it or be the one to profit
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:20
tempted to send them email saying as much
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 08:20
they'd have the first AP on the market at least in the US
DanaR might be better EU, but @MilosKozak has that covered
LadyViktoria
@LadyViktoria
Feb 26 2016 08:30
yes ping is no available on eu market
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 26 2016 08:34
Unfortunately only the vibe I'am wearing during the day......
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 08:56
I think it would be lovely to send a clear unmistakable signal to industry that access to this stuff is important... if you're device doesn't have it, that's enough of a reason to not use it
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 26 2016 09:12
My vibe is quite new. Unfortunately, I didn’t know anything about openAPS a few months ago :worried: ..... otherwise I would have choosen the Dana R
Hichame Yessou
@hichameyessou
Feb 26 2016 09:32
Actually here in Italy I know a lot of people with the animas ping, from which country you are @LadyViktoria ?
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 26 2016 09:40
@hichameyessou .....we are @LadyViktoria and me from the german looper group :smile:
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Feb 26 2016 09:46
So if you are getting a cc1110 or a cc1111, what are the links to the actual product to order off of TI's website?

Also are there any intents of making a version of OpenAPS (perhaps not "officially" supported, since you have no temp basals adjustability...) for the Animas Ping?

I think this would be important, given the limited availability of Medtronic pumps...

John
@jstevensog
Feb 26 2016 09:49
SPI is a bit of a problem. We need to decide how we want to wire it. We can face as many SPI slaves as there are digital outputs available to select them, out we can have just one. If someone wants to shoot me their Edison wiring diagram I can have a crack at coming up with a standard we can use, and code up xBridgeOaps to use it.
Oskar Pearson
@oskarpearson
Feb 26 2016 14:13
@diabeticgonewild https://github.com/oskarpearson/mmeowlink/wiki/TI-USB-stick has links to the TI pages
CC1111EMK868-915 and the CC-debugger (both linked on that page)
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 15:10
Just catching up about @HowardLook, @danamlewis, @bewest, and POTUS! Anyone know where I can find a video or more info about the event?
Also, staring at an almost entirely green two day graph on nightscout, and feeling truly grateful.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 15:14
@ochenmiller isn't the green grand?!! :-). #Grateful. +1. :+1:
@scottleibrand posted a link yesterday if you scroll back a bit you should find it. Let me know if you don't see it, I'll post it again.
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 15:17
Thx!
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 15:23
NP, happy to help.
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 15:26
Oh my God. I'm in tears. @HowardLook described my journey, my frustrations, my gratefulness so eloquently.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 15:28
:) <3 :+1:
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 15:38
:+1:
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 15:46
Part of the emotional relief watching the @HowardLook and POTUS video was that I realized that until now I'd felt somewhat like a criminal - doing something I wasn't supposed to do. I feel validated. And grateful.
Pete Schwamb
@ps2
Feb 26 2016 15:46
To @jasoncalabrese’s comment about @bewest and the amount of work he’s put into this: having gone down part of the same path of decoding medtronic independently (and unfortunately partly redundantly), I can vouch that he’s put in an unmeasurable amount of value into all that we’re working on. I’m amazed at how much he’s done, and incredibly thankful for it. I was very happy to hear him get creds in front of POTUS.
Nyadach
@Nyadach
Feb 26 2016 15:58
Great video, and nice to hear someone of influence listening. And very nice to see the fantastic work you've done on this credited in such a place. Brilliantly well done you all on this!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 16:04
+1, @ps2 :+1:
@ochenmiller ahhh, you’ve articulated too how I was feeling yesterday (validated for the community saying this is important and that we need institutional support from all stakeholders)
Kevin Wells
@wkcwells
Feb 26 2016 16:30
@HowardLook @danamlewis @bewest Chills watching that!! What a compelling validation of all the great work this group has done. @HowardLook just a beautiful “elevator pitch” for APS and #WeAreNotWaiting. So impressed with your eloquence in that setting!!
Ali Mazaheri
@amazaheri
Feb 26 2016 16:37
:+1: @howardlook pitch sealed the deal for me :)
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JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Feb 26 2016 17:05
@ps2, hear! hear! @wkcwells, hear! hear! :+1: 👏🏻
I've rewatched that clip of @HowardLook 's clear and concise conveyance 5 times already!! Well done!
Howard Look
@HowardLook
Feb 26 2016 17:14
Thank you all for the kind words. I am honored to have had the opportunity to represent the incredible work of this community in that forum. I am so thankful not only for the benefits it has brought my daughter and our family but also for the inspiration and assistance in crafting the talking points that I relied on. @danamlewis and @scottleibrand had incredible feedback on my prep notes.
There is more to come. I am testifying before a House Subcommittee next week and also meeting with the FDA.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 17:28
@HowardLook Cool to note - your notes when testifying will likely be online in the archives for perpetuity, which will also be cool to be able to share!
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 17:31
:-)
Daniel Bjørnbakk
@danibjor
Feb 26 2016 17:46
Got a package today :)
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eyim
@eyim
Feb 26 2016 17:49
Nice - what is the name of those connection wires? I need to order a few more of those
Daniel Bjørnbakk
@danibjor
Feb 26 2016 17:59
@oskarpearson have to answer that one. Got them from him
Nyadach
@Nyadach
Feb 26 2016 18:25
jumper wires you mean @eyim ?
eyim
@eyim
Feb 26 2016 18:43
Yes - jumper wires - Thank you @Nyadach
Kevin Wells
@wkcwells
Feb 26 2016 19:05
All of a sudden my treatments (temp basal and bolus) stopped showing up in Nightscout about midnight last night. Everything else seems to be working fine. Any ideas?
Specifically, OpenAPS is still setting temps and uploading to NS.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 19:09
there might be some treatment in the future
in NS look at the admin tool, from the settings drawer
it would should any treatments in the future
could also be the time/timezone
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 19:18
@wkcwells - I've sometimes run into issues when the ns-uploader runs into records it can't parse - such as changes to basal or wizard. But it starts working again after the 3 hour window of "iter_pump_hours".
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 19:22
ooo, please file bugs on those, which pump 12?
hmmm don't put up with those shenanigans
for anyone liking to do diagrams/docs stuff
awhile ago I made a "loop" using some of the current safety-engineering thinking
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Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 19:29
My bad for not filing a bug! 722 pump.
Ben West
@bewest
Feb 26 2016 19:30
I try to collect suites of these flaws and mention them in my emails to medtronic
we heard how @channemann's been calling lifescan/onetouch/meter companies
and filing complaints... this actually causes liabilities they need to pursue on their end
if they're going to make us work in opposition, toiling to reverse engineer things, I think it's only fair we cause them at least as much work responding to complaints and answering why their documentation seems to be absent
so it's useful to have an outstanding bug list where things are wrong and impact people's decision making...
this is their liability, not ours...
Kevin Wells
@wkcwells
Feb 26 2016 19:33
No future treatments. CGM data is coming in fine. I restarted the app service on Azure, but that made no difference.
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 19:33
Fantastic line of thought. And, in the end, we'll get better products and services.
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 20:15
@wkcwells - if you're using mongo, I might suggest you check to see if records are showing up there. If not, try hand entering another one and see if it shows up in NS. Also, check to be sure that there's an index on "created_at" - mongo should create one automatically - if not add one. Perhaps you hit an upper limit on records there and it's not returning info?
or timing out
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Kevin Wells
@wkcwells
Feb 26 2016 20:23
@ochenmiller Thanks! I have to remember how to get into mongo. I just followed the steps to setup NS and really didn’t have to do much with mongo.
If the CGM values are showing up in NS, does that indicat that mongo is OK?
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 20:24
CGM and treatments go into different "collections". Not a slam dunk for troubleshooting, but it might give you more info about what's going on.
https://mongolab.com , then there will be login prompts etc
Bluetooth and wifi
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 20:27
you can also check from the api
YOUR_SITE/api/v1/treatments.json?find[enteredBy]=/openaps/
that would show the most recent treatments from openaps, easier than getting to mongo
the findsyntax is a little strange, but it's really flexible
for example filtering by date /api/v1/treatments.json?find[enteredBy]=/openaps/&find[created_at][$gte]=2016-02-25
Chris Hannemann
@channemann
Feb 26 2016 20:30
@oskarpearson interesting; doesn't look any different from the photos
But yeah, there it is; Raspberry Pi 3 Model B
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 20:37
Bluetooth and wifi would be a more meaningful addition to a super small footprint RPi, like the zero. Something with that footprint, and wireless i/o would be a great competitor to Edison. And RPi could probably do it for a lot less $$
Bet they could add those features and only raise the price point to $10.
IMHO
Kevin Wells
@wkcwells
Feb 26 2016 20:43
Looks like the data is all there...
dougtakeuti
@dougtakeuti
Feb 26 2016 21:13
Do we have anything written on meal-assist?
They're kinda dated though.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 21:28
Also openaps/oref0#61
dougtakeuti
@dougtakeuti
Feb 26 2016 21:30
Great! Thank you!
John Males
@johnmales
Feb 26 2016 22:12
Hi all, just want to add to the applause for @bewest @danamlewis @HowardLook and all promoting this great work :)
Quick question - what do people use to look through git logs on a pi? command line? some form of gui?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 22:18
I have mine formatted for easy viewing with tail -f or less
John Males
@johnmales
Feb 26 2016 22:19
ok
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 26 2016 22:26
@jasoncalabrese regarding "find"...sounds great, thx, will try this tomorrow :+1:
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Feb 26 2016 22:34
you can use it to construct almost any mongo find query
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 22:43
@johnmales , I found myself tailing the log so often that I added an alias to my .bashrc file (hidden file in the /home/pi directory). alias easylog='tail -200f /var/log/openaps/easy.log' in my case.
then all you have to do is type easylog
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 22:43
Mine is one letter: l
Peter Miller
@ochenmiller
Feb 26 2016 22:44
damn!
John Males
@johnmales
Feb 26 2016 22:44
cool excellent ideas
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 22:44
it's now 4 taps to ssh in and open the log. ;-)
open ServerAuditor, click the rig, hit l, and return. ;-)
John Males
@johnmales
Feb 26 2016 22:45
:)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 23:24
:clap:
should PR that, @scottleibrand
or write it up and i’ll tuck it in new docs.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 23:26
It's very specific to however you set up your logging. There are enough different preferences on that we haven't settled on one to recommend.
Maybe when we automate the read-only loop we'll standardize that.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 23:27
yea. but even hints on making it as easy as we’ve made it would be nice
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 26 2016 23:30
did the FDA really require a 3 hour delay with Apple Health data? Saw some online references to the 3 hour delay with dexcom but can’t find any actual docs that point to FDA actually requiring this.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 26 2016 23:30
yes
(she says, without providing a link to a document)
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 26 2016 23:30
lol
but share API can be real time? odd
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 23:31
They didn't specify 3 hours
they said "real time" is different though.
Howard Look
@HowardLook
Feb 26 2016 23:31
I’m not sure it was a requirement - I think it was a conversation betwen Dex and FDA so that they could get Class1/Exempt status for the app(s). We’ve talked to them about real time (no delay) and were told Class-2/Exempt for real time.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 26 2016 23:31
so Dex is currently using 3h to be "definitely not real time"
Howard Look
@HowardLook
Feb 26 2016 23:31
right
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Feb 26 2016 23:32
i see.
Howard Look
@HowardLook
Feb 26 2016 23:32
The Class2/Exempt for real time statement is documented in the notes from our October pre-sub meeting, see tidepool.org/documents