These are chat archives for nightscout/intend-to-bolus

17th
Mar 2016
benhamou
@benhamou
Mar 17 2016 00:00
not policy but politics
they dont care, george w. bush forced them to standards
companies dont listen
@Surferin baust du auch eine openaps lösung
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:02
the companies have way too much fear that something happens and the customers then go to court to make them resposnsible for the failures
@benhamou no, I unfortunately have the Animas Vibe system
benhamou
@benhamou
Mar 17 2016 00:03
so its better i make a failure and can blame be :-)
blame me
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:03
let me tell you a story from Medtronic
when the Medtronic Veo System came to market, it had IPX8
that means it was "watertight"
Some pumpers went swimming with the pump
the pump broke
they went to court to blame Medtronic that they are resposnsible for this "failure" even if the pumpers themselves were responsible that the pump broke
in consequence, the Medtronic Veo only got IPX7 afterwards
I think Medtronic has to pay a lot of money
benhamou
@benhamou
Mar 17 2016 00:08
my keybord on the pump didnt work anymore as I went to shower with it
so they are not waterresistent anymore?
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:08
I had Medtronic Veo from 2010 to 2014 - no problems
I took them under the shower in a douche pocket around my neck with no problems
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 17 2016 00:20
they were never water proof
in fact, one of the most common failures is for the buttons to stop working because moisture/grit gets under them
at this point, if I take a shower, I make sure pump is in a different room... too humid
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:22
I was showering with the Veo pump, I was swimming with her (put her in an Aquapac for swimming) never had problems
benhamou
@benhamou
Mar 17 2016 00:22
haha, i spoke to the service line, they asked whether it had been in touch with water, i said, no, but why aren´t they whaterproof. He confirmed waterproof
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 00:25
They are "watertight", like resistant to occasional splashes. But not waterproof.
benhamou
@benhamou
Mar 17 2016 00:27
well that was a guarantee case
good bye friends i am leaving
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:37
good bye have a good nights' sleep
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 00:43
If anyone if sick of the noisy warning for missing units in NS with openaps uploads, I just merged nightscout/cgm-remote-monitor#1545 to NS dev that will make them go away. Should also fix an issue @TC2013 was having with not being able to disable alerts with the OpenAPS plugin
@jmatheson should fix your papertrail issues
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:47
may it be possible to update the OpenAPS user guide?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 17 2016 00:48
definitely, everyone is encouraged to improve the guides
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 00:48
yes, you can submit a pull request with edits. which one are you trying to improve?
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:49
because there are some who loop with the Dana R pump and that there are some looping with the Animas Ping
Tim Howard
@tghoward
Mar 17 2016 00:49
@jasoncalabrese :+1: I was having those same papertrail issues. Thanks.
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 00:49
awesome, thanks @jasoncalabrese i did not have the other problem you mentioned though.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:49
I know that the Dana is not on the US market, but on the Asian market and in Europe
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 00:50
There are older Dana pumps here in the US (so you can get pump sites, etc.), but not the Dana R.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:52
I know, but you know, the user guide is also used by those in Europe who want to set up a OpenAPS and if they are using the Dana R and don't know this pump can be used with OpenAPS as well - that's not so good
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 00:54
I think DanaR might be avail in Australia….hmmm @johnmales ?
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 00:55
I am in contact with 2 people who use the Dana R pump here in Europe and they loop with it
LadyViktoria
@LadyViktoria
Mar 17 2016 00:57
danaR is great for looping <3
at the moment i am working on openaps for android wear ^^ i discovered that i can pair my danaR with my watch. i also can pair xdrip and read g4 transmitter with anroid wear.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 00:59
@Surferin which part of the user guide specifically is misleading?
we do have a supported hardware list, which doesn't include the Dana R
since that requires other software
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 01:01
I think it might be helpful to update the list what pumps you can loop with and what hardware/software you need for it
Isn't that possible?
And I think the same might be helpful for the Animas Ping
In the future, it is possible that we can loop with the Accucheck Combo System as well
There are some guys working on it to make it possible to loop with that system as well
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 01:09
Unfortunately none of those work with the openaps toolset, nor has anyone documented how to loop with a DanaR (that I know of)
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 01:09
well, you could ask @LadyViktoria
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 01:10
I'm hoping someone will document it soon, so we have something to point people to.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 01:13
I hope so as well!
LadyViktoria
@LadyViktoria
Mar 17 2016 01:14
right its not well documented and its easier to use. this means people can do bigger mistakes because they do not know what they are doing
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 01:16
Once there is documentation, it would be great to update the list at the same time. Ditto for updating the hardware list for things like Edison, TI, etc. once it's to the point of folding a standard setup into the main documention.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 01:17
Thanks, that's sounds like a great solution!
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 01:48
I started playing with @MilosKozak's NSClient combined with xdrip+, uses websockets to for real time updates
And that works with happ and the Dana R app
All loosely coupled
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 01:54
Xdrip+ can't handle the temp basals, but the iob curves are nice, some other cool features
LadyViktoria
@LadyViktoria
Mar 17 2016 01:56
:D
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 02:10
Just got an email from my Endo "I've been following your CGM data on Glooko and you are doing exceedingly well!!"
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 02:10
:+1: :smile: :clap:
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 02:11
Wow! :smile: :clap:
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 02:12
I have not seen him since getting on openaps but i just gave him the scoop in a reply. curious if he knows about it.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 02:13
:-D
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 02:15
:+1:
John Males
@johnmales
Mar 17 2016 03:34
@jmatheson looks like DanaR pumps are in Aus, I have no experience with them. http://www.managingdiabetes.com.au/dana-diabecare-IIS.cfm?tag=enquire
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 17 2016 04:11
think my basal rates need changing
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:11
why?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 17 2016 04:11
curious how often other adults change basals
last 3 months been having higher bgs
last week or so has been extreme dosing all the tiem
or I go extremely high
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:13
huh thats weird, I'm having the exact same problem
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:13
I change my basal rates if my TDD got higher for 3 days
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:13
I was actually thinking about changing my daytime basal to fix it
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 17 2016 04:13
last 3 days especially, been bolusing and changing sites/reservoirs
even new vials
still, bg keeps going up
LadyViktoria
@LadyViktoria
Mar 17 2016 04:14
@johnmales @johnmales you need the danaR for remote. there are other models on the market... dana IIs (with bolus wizard) and dana IIsg with a integrated BG meter. fcc name für danaR is dana IIsR -> https://fccid.io/VF9
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 17 2016 04:14
would be nice to have a tool for this
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:15
I was wondering if the autosense would help in situations like these?
I haven't gotten the new copy of dev so I haven't played with it, was wondering about it
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 04:15
@bewest Do you have auto sensitivity set up?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 17 2016 04:15
throwing some kind of warning/error for a weird TDD after 3 days might be good
no
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 04:15
@itsn0tm3 Watching it detect resistance for me after a few hours of running closer to 150 rather than my usual
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 17 2016 04:16
what is auto sensitivity?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 04:16
Always detects it faster than I would get around to convincing myself to change basals or use resistance mode ratios for corrections
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:17
interesting
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 04:17
@bewest Auto calculates your ISF so you can see if you're running resistant or sensitive. Auto adjusts basals too as result
Needs some work still but better than having to eyeball and wait days (my typical without it).
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:22
If my TDD is higher the last 3 days than the 3 days before (I check the TDD memory of the pump) , I put more insulin in the basal rates (0.1 U/h for the 24h hours of day; means 2.4 U more insulin) AND PLUS more insulin for the bolus (0.5 U more for the whole bolus for a meal)
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:23
ah I think I'll set up my 2nd pi on dev and clean up my stuff then try setting up the auto and see how that goes
is it in the dev branch or the meal-assist branch?
I think I saw it get moved over into the dev branch?
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:25
@bewest what you describe sounds like the up- and downregulation of the insulin receptors
I learned that in a training of my doc
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 04:26
@itsn0tm3 I think it's still in meal assist
Testing and feedback encouraged :) when you get around to it
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:27
will do :) I have a few things I want to put some clarifications in for, esp the TI setup
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 04:28
:+1:
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:29
@Surferin does that happen because of being sick or that's just a normal thing?
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:33
when your insulin receptors are down regulated, there are less insulin receptors at work, the insulin is not able to work effectively anymore and therefore, you then need more insulin. Reasons why the insulin receptors are not working effectively anymore are: more food eaten, less sport, illness - something like that
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:34
so basically the more atheletically fit you are, the better the receptors should work?
kind of like you're eating too much because you're not being active enough to absorb all of it?
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:39
well, there are days when you eat more: you are more hungry, there are national holidays like christmas or easter or something like that - your TDD is higher than normal and after 3 days - your bg starts to rise and you wonder why - normally it's just that
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:42
That'a making me think about all the events I have during the year where I always struggle with that and yea, they're usually around the same times of the year.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:42
The same is when you needed less insulin - you eat less, you do more sports - you need less insulin - after 3 days, there are more insulin receptors on the cells, the insulin can work better
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:43
thats pretty fascinating. I might just keep track of events durign the year and see what the impacts are and then compare them again next year
and then 2 years from now, work out more during those events ha
thanks for giving me some food for thought!
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:44
well, if you have more questions - ask me or AdrianLxM, he was trained by the same doc and knows about that a lot as well
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:44
will do
thanks!
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:44
I write down an example
on March 14th, I needed 26,896 units in total
on march 15th I needed 31,115 units in total
On March 16th I needed 28,529 units in total
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:49
but you could have eaten more carbs on one day, wouldn't that account for the difference so you wouldn't be able to tell from the units itself without some pertinent data
but I do understand what you mean
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:52
On average, I needed 28,85 units in total
LadyViktoria
@LadyViktoria
Mar 17 2016 04:53
it would be nice if oref0 will do smeday this job ;)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 04:55
openaps/oref0#58 mostly takes care of the day-to-day variability.
but it doesn't help you set your basal schedule to be right in the first place. Need to analyze at least a week's data for that I think.
LadyViktoria
@LadyViktoria
Mar 17 2016 04:56
i know i watch at this to see the progress ;)
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:56
On March, 13th 32,813 units
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 04:57
@scottleibrand is it in meal-assist or dev? In there it says that you merged it into dev?
oh nevermind, it says you WANT to merge it into dev but it's still in meal-assist
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:57
On March 12th I needed 32,464 units
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 04:58
Exactly. Until openaps/oref0#75 is merged it's still only in meal-assist.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 04:58
On March 11th I needed 27,664 units
that makes an average of 30,980 units
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 05:00
@Surferin maybe the 32's were the weekend and the rest were the week day? so the 32's would be average for weekend and then 28 would be the weekday average?
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 05:02
That result of the days 4 to 6 shows that I needed more insulin than the last 3 days and that means - upregulation of the insulin receptors and I can reduce the amount of insulin now
the amount of insulin I need fluctuate from day to day, it's not depending on weekend or week
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 17 2016 05:05
hmm
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 05:05
So for you a 3-day trailing average is accurately predictive?
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 05:06
yes, it is
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 05:07
@LadyViktoria for basal tuning recommendations like @TC2013 and others want to do, I think Nightscout might be the best place to pull the data. Maybe make it part of NS reports?
@Surferin do you ever see abrupt transitions? @danamlewis will go into sensitivity mode right after exercise if it's more intense than she's been doing over the previous week or two.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 05:09
@AdrianLxM, do you know some kind of information about this up- and downregulation of the insulin receptors?
sometimes there are aprupt transitions when I eat a lot more or less than the days before but that is then only for 1 day, but not for whole 3 days
LadyViktoria
@LadyViktoria
Mar 17 2016 05:18
@scottleibrand yes that is the best place to store the data :D or couchebase (https://github.com/couchbaselabs) its a database that works with json files and it runs on android, rpi, ios.....
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 05:19
when you do more intense sports, do you make the experience that you are a bit insulin resistant afterwards for a few hours?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 05:20
@Surferin I would be more sensitive in the above case (intense activity)
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 05:23
Well, I made the experience that I get a little bit insulin resistant when I walk or cycle or swim more intense even in endurance sports
There exists an article about this phenomenon, wait, I can post it here
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 05:25
This is why I like what openAPS is doing. Doesn't matter WHY you are running high or low (sensitivity or resistance; sick; food; etc), just deals with the resulting changes.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 05:26
Btw for all who heard me last week wondering why my share receivers stopped sharing to the Dexcom app - turns out it was my phone. New phone tonight, and it magically works again. Bluetooth still worked with pebble and everything else, so not sure why, but good to know if anyone else has a receiver that works but doesn't share to the Dexcom app suddenly.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 05:39
strange, wonder what broke on the phone?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 05:40
No idea still. Bluetooth was working for my pebble, the Dexcom app said it was successfully paired with the receiver, etc.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 05:40
did you get pebble notifications? think that only works with ble, where the everything else pebble to phone is old bluetooth
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 05:40
Yea
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Mar 17 2016 05:46
@Surferin up and down regulation is a continuous process when not giving peptide hormones intermittantly. The reason we adjust for the new sensitivity level if there was more/less insulin for 3 days is that it usually is a reasonable amount of time and works well like this.
On days I eat many carbs and need a lot more bolus I will adjust my basal rate much earlier to the new sensitivity level.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 05:48
@AdrianLxM but is there some information about it in english? More information than that which I wrote before?
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Mar 17 2016 05:52
I don't know what you did write before. I don't follow this channel every day. I just saw you tagged me.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 05:53
well, I explained the up- and downregulation of the insulin receptors a little bit
And probably, there is more information about it in English available on the internet?
Do you know some sources?
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Mar 17 2016 05:57
scholar.google.com ;) - it is well researched since the late 1970s.
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 06:00
ok, I'll do a check
I just read the PowerPoint slides of John Walsh
Lot's of things we learned from Teupe are explained there as well
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 16:32
has there been any work or discussion around visualizing openaps uptime/downtime in NS? I was just chasing down to understand why something happened overnight and realized that something kept openaps offline for about 45mins. Was thinking the blue link could simply be a different color (red?) when openaps was not looping.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 17:08
I want to do that via something like uptime robot, with a new endpoint in NS that checks the status
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:14
doesn’t that just track uptime on the system?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 17:17
On the newer oref0 branches, they always set a temp, even if it's your current basal. So if they stop looping for more than 30m the basal switches from light to dark blue.
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:18
I would like to know did if it got to the point that it attempted to set (or cancel or decide not to add) a temp basal within the last x (5?) minute window.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 17:18
Doesnt the openaps pill do that already?
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:18
oh really. i’ve only been on dev 11 since coming back online this week
I want to look at the graph over last few days and know immediately.
so i dont need to pinch and zoom and drag and tap. i know, system was not working for some reason so don’t spend time trying to figure out what oref might have done.
what do you mean light vs dark blue? is this the line or the shading or ?
the pill works fine for real time analysis, but does not help when trying to figure out 4 hours ago
The little dark slice in the middle was when no temp was set.
Rachel Sandlain
@audiefile
Mar 17 2016 17:24
If you scroll back the pill should show retro data
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:24
i dont want to scroll back
and analyze every 5 minutes by hand. that is a ton of work.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 17:25
With meal-assist you can see at a glance any time the loop was down for more than 30m
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:25
so you are saying with some new branch that would always be filled out since it would reset the temp always?
Rachel Sandlain
@audiefile
Mar 17 2016 17:25
Also +1 for basal rate analysis in Nightscout. I know that would make a lot of people happy
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:26
and just to be clear, i am not happy that my BG rose to 160 overnight. #openapsproblems
Yes, it always sets a temp, even if it's the current basal.
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:27
so those little tiny and medium slices were times it did not set a temp for whatever reason? yeah that would work.
it’s pretty awesome that i now get angry when i am 160.
guess i need to get back on a newer branch.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 17:30
@jmatheson :) re angry for "highs" of 160 :)
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:31
i was at 98% in range for the first 3 days this week (75-150 being in range). and most of that 2% was when i calibrated and things were off putting me above range. :)
so yeah, overnight 160 and i was steaming. actually convinced me to finally turn on alarms which i did not even have on at all.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 17:34
Lol nice. Those are awesome results!
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:34
@scottleibrand I’ve been thinking about when oref does not do what i think it should and usually it has to do with eventual BG i think. The dia time i have been playing with 4 vs 3 hours. it seems like the longer the value the farther out the eventual will be, right? which will affect short term max rise.
this is taking into account that 2.1 firmware uses full hour increments only and i dont honestly know what my dia is.
i think i know but not positive
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 17:38
I was thinking that with uptime robot or something similar we could check for a json value, that would let us track loop uptime, looping hours, etc
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:38
using an inacurrate value will either leave you high too ofter or push you low. if we did not have the risk of losing connection at any point it’d be easy enough to negative temp later, but we don’t have that luxury. just need someone to invent insulin that kicks in immediate and fades out quickly :)
@jasoncalabrese that’d be awesome
when i used dia of 3 i was getting lows down the line. changed it to 4 and rises seemed to need more hands on attention. just switched it back to 3.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 17:41
had some unexpected highs last night and this morning after a site change last night, went to school replaced the cartridge and tubing, looked like lots more bubbles than normal
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:41
:(
i had a similar issue sunday
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 17:42
then caught the school nurse making up the carb amount try to compensate for a carb correction after being a little too aggressive with the low
can't have people doing the the job of robot and expect good results
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 17 2016 17:44
^^same applies for all of us treating diabetes without algorithmic and robotic assistance. It's hard.
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:44
yeah. i’ve been stepping in with a few 1 unit (which is small for me since 25:1) corrections that i wish i did not have to.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 17:45
@jmatheson Novo has a faster-acting insulin aspart in the FDA approval pipeline
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 17 2016 17:45
really need a better bolus tool for them to use
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 17:45
it doesn't disappear faster, but it does kick in faster, so better for blunting meal spikes
at t=15 minutes it has twice as much activity as regular novolog
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 17 2016 17:46
nice. is it appoved outside of the US at all yet?
Greg Scull
@komby
Mar 17 2016 20:17
@scottleibrand I heard about that insulin on Sunday at a conference and got really excited for aspart. We switched to apidra and seem get faster action and shorter tails than we did with Novolog but it came at the cost of a shorter pump site duration.
Lori
@LoriLori
Mar 17 2016 20:41
@komby why do you have "shorter pump site duration" on Apidra? any symptoms I should watch for?
Greg Scull
@komby
Mar 17 2016 20:53
We havent had as many recently but we did notice more occlusions on the 3rd day of a site than with novolog. The official stance from sanofi was "You must change the infusion set (reservoir, tubing, and catheter), and the Apidra® in the pump reservoir at least every 48 hours"
Lori
@LoriLori
Mar 17 2016 20:55
thanks
Britta
@Surferin
Mar 17 2016 21:37
Apidra is a little bit thicker than the other insulins are
I used Apidra a couple of months and then, the reservoir - infusion site occlusions began
at the end, I had to change the infusion site every few hours and came with a DKA into hospital
the occlusions stopped when I switched from Apidra to Humalog
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 17 2016 22:09
@jmatheson faster acting aspart isn't available anywhere yet AFAIK, but I haven't searched in a lot of detail.