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Mar 2016
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 25 2016 00:26
thanks all :) My son... being at a high school robotics event... not entirely sure what they did, but they got it working again.
rafaelmatuk
@rafaelmatuk
Mar 25 2016 02:41
@channemann great deck and presentation! thanks for sharing... Quick question: what are you using outside of NS for data visualization?
also, just noticed that the documentation is being updated. Just learned something: my loop was failing from time. The root cause was that the clock of the Dexcomm, the pump and the Raspberry were slightly off - close or sometimes over 5 minutes...perhaps a note to make sure all the device clocks are in synch?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 02:45
That would make a great pull request :)
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 02:52
So i’ve been playing around with Snapchat stories today. Any snapchat users here? (i anticipate hearing crickets)
Did a little day in the life of a diabetic as a first test. thinking about documenting more things with video.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 02:56
sounds interesting
my iphone updated itself and demanded I put in a stronger password
it had opt outs, but then I thought I'd try it out
snapchat is mobile-app, right?
is that the one where the image disappears?
ah, it's similar to vine?
something between video/picture?
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 03:02
yeah they forced me to do that with my iphone awhile ago too.
yeah it is the image disappear one.
but similar to vine. you can shoot 10 second videos and have them stick around for a rolling 24 hours. it connects them together as a “story” which you can watch inside the app.
i am going to download the whole story at the end of the day and then upload it to youtube. will send out the link after i do that.
not quite as fun as inside the app (and video is vertical), but should work for the people not signed up for snapchat yet.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 03:04
what if you hold it sideways when you take the video?
interesting concept though
it's per day buckets?
do they have per week bucket? that's pretty interesting
analog to taking dictation almost
then getting an executive summary almost, not quite
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 03:05
yes, some people are starting to do that. the main thing i heard is it is a bit funky inside the app and you gotta make sure you flip the camera the same way each time so front/back are not upside down.
but i am going to test it soon that way
it’s actually a rolling 24 hours thing. but you can download the rolling 24 hours whenever you want. it’s not that hard to stitch them together. you can actually do that inside youtube’s editor now.
it’s 5 mins long for today already. feeling like there will be some sort of optimal length once i get it figured out.
rafaelmatuk
@rafaelmatuk
Mar 25 2016 03:08
ok, what appears to be the final hurdle...my uploads to NS do not work from the cron job, but work from the command line...perhaps permissions?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 03:08
env variable?
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 03:08
that’s probably the ENV vars not being avail in cron
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 03:08
your becoming master trouble shooter @jmatheson :-)
rafaelmatuk
@rafaelmatuk
Mar 25 2016 03:08
that is what I though - appears to be ok - let me double check.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 03:09
does it integrate with siri and all the things the phone can do?
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 03:09
i am good at the easy stuff and decent at translating geek speak
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 03:10
would be nifty to have "iphone marker events" almosr
capture location, etc
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 03:11
yea. doesn’t have that really. maybe if you save each clip individually. but there are no time stamps.
for stories
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 03:11
definitely seems interesting, will be looking forward to it
yeah, sounds fairly basic if they can't de-mangle the orientation yet
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 03:12
the usability / intuitiveness of snapchat for a person of my age is extremely low. but hey they have 100M people using it.
did not mean that any of this stuff is very easy on the debug side :)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 03:18
lol
lol
my iphone makes me extremely uncomfortable
now that I have decent password on it, I'm sure I'll be locked out
rafaelmatuk
@rafaelmatuk
Mar 25 2016 03:21
@bewest it was the ENV, but actually something else: I had a subdomain to my personal domain pointing to my NS site in my Azure acct. The NS uploader does not like that, although NS actually works well with a re-directed domain name. As soon as I changed it to the Azure site (no domain redirection), it worked fine. Of course, I had resolved that a while ago and never changed the ENV variables in Cron...
maybe another note for that pull request... I will get around sometime next week. I will try to loop through the weekend now that everything seems to be in place
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 03:23
oh yea, i had the same issue
garykidd
@garykidd
Mar 25 2016 03:36
@eluhrs near nyc...would love to meet up at some point
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 03:42
OK, here’s my snap story from today…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMjBtxoieKA feedback and constructive criticism appreciated
Chris Hannemann
@channemann
Mar 25 2016 04:20
@rafaelmatuk thanks, I appreciate the compliment; the visualization is https://github.com/loudnate/openaps-monitor
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 25 2016 05:08
@billstackpole I live here in ROC, I will probably be going to imagineRIT. Will stop by the booth!
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 06:45
@jmatheson I got some dinner, I find this fascinating stuff though
I think if lots of people did this, I could easily watch this all day
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 06:46
the last thing I want to do is take you away from coding :)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 06:46
this is so novel... I'm thinking of aisling's proposal, she would eat this up with a spoon
this is exactly what she wants
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 06:48
i will send her the link.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 06:51
yes
I was just writing an email
but your email is not in my gmail autocomplete
I can't say how much I love this
for anyone trying to design something, this is extremely useful feedback
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 06:56
:+1: on @mariusae posting something
also, :+1: on balancing on using all the insulin/forestalling site changes
dealing with that ATM myself
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 06:58
i just changed it actually. kinda should have kept the the snaps going. i was 102 and then i calibrated and got 150. annoying
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 06:58
also :+1: "am I coming down with something?!?!???"
also explaining your own surfing theory/opinion without needing to defend it
yeah, if you can figure out a method/process for this, I might join your bandwagon for science
aisling was wanting to do some kind of diary, but it seemed quite intrusive
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:00
i do want to understand @mariusae’s analysis more. I’d really like to see a little competiton brew between the few different loop code that he’s using vs @loudnate vs @scottleibrand ’s advanced meal assist. push the envelope a bit.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:00
also @kenstack and @bustavo !
yes, I'd like to see more to reproduce/compare with high fidelity
that's how science works :-D
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:01
the snapchat method is actually pretty easy. but it does not timestamp each clip.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:02
I noticed that, but your "method" is to look at your physical devices which often have a time and you also announce the time often
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:02
with each clip maxing at 10 seconds there is no time to defend yourself :)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:02
announcing seems easy, or maybe someone can develop an app to automate that as a feature
how often do you scrap it and try again?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:03
thats great @jmatheson
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:03
that's where the cost goes up I guess, but still it's only 20 seconds to do a loop?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:03
just watched it
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:03
they do have filters where you can overlay things, but i did not notice time as one of them.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:03
I think the video, shows daylight, tone of voice/stress etc that no survey can
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:03
but i am constantly showing NS :)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:03
also highlights exactly what you are focusing on, there's huge potential there
we should start lobbying snapchat, clearly
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:04
it would not be that hard to create a specific app for this, but like anything it’d be work
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:05
sounds like a job for a university
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:05
would be cool to overlay it on a timeline that actually shows your BG and pump data
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:05
yes, there's js libs for that, actually
popcorn js
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:05
saw the little changes you made to NS to make the pills smaller
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:06
i’d like to figure out a better history tool to use and scroll through time that goes more than 3 days
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:06
ah
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:06
yeah, total hack
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:06
yes
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:06
infinite scroll in NS would be nice
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:06
I've been experimenting with UIs for that for long tiem
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:06
need some smart paging
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:06
yeah smart paging
that's what's killing my demos
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:06
but would then mostly just work
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:08
it’d be nice to do something like apple health (which i know sucks in a lot of ways) but where you can easily go from hour to day to week to month to year. and drill in anywhere. would be awesome to tie video reactions and be able to filter on > 300 and jsut watch those videos. ok, probably crazy idea that is 10x effort vs value
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:08
need to smartly load data on the "sides" of the page
yeah, look at
you can zoom/pan
similar to
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:10
was the vertical too annoying on youtube?
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:10
vertical is better for snapchat users
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:11
vertical was not a huge issue
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:11
but horizontal for everyone else
cool
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:11
IMHO
but I've been told I'm weird, so YMMV
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:11
lol
yeah looks like you have made some visualization progress
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:12
both of those demos have various problems that can be coded around, but are exposed by the POC/demo
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:12
i would like to easily be able to change between timeline and overlay x days in a row, x dow with x weeks back, etc.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:13
when you zoom out from week to 6 months or year, all of a sudden you have 100k data points
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:13
i also want to better understand standard deviation or some other way vs looking at % in range and average BG
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:13
but I'm convinced it's the right interaction, lots of UX research to back it
just need right implementation
that sounds like AGP
except tidepool doesn't do pan/zoom
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:17
tidepool does not work with my 722 apparently
so i have not been able to play with it
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:18
don't get @bewest started...
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:18
I gave them a pretty hard time last night, felt kind of bad actually
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:19
i was thinking about how much insulin must get wasted from stopping early, the long canula wires, etc. especially people with 5xx’s that are wasting a higher % of insulin. Then the damn pharmacy guys give you crap about how many bottles you are covered for etc
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:19
just about the x22 issue, seems like it wouldn't be so hard to fix
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:20
it's not......
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:20
oh yea, you did. i was kinda happy you did :)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:20
really?
it's not hard to fix, it has to do with basal issues
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:21
Yea. I’ve started to get to know Brandon a little and he does have pull there, so you giving him a little crap i dont mind :) since you guys are buddies
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:21
in original mmcsv I knew people at tidepool didn't like the 522 missing the "basal changed because of basal-schedule" events, so I created a server that generated these events given the schedule
the solution was built into my original library......
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:22
it’s the typical difficulties you run into running product for a company…. understood his side of course too
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:22
so yeah... no reason not to support it IMHO
I wrote this lib while working for Tidepool and collecting paycheck from them
in fact.....
hehe, shouldn't have gotten me started
I think I have a live demo somewhere
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:23
to me retro data is something for the machines
I don't really care to see it
I only want enough context and the future
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:24
i think their new app sounds fricking awesome if i can log what i eat and then see what happened last time i ate it! i just want to use that!! but getting my pump data in is a big issue. and then the x22 issue. it does bum me out. would love to use the work they/ve done
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:24
needs to be real time
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:25
i think that app is real time
or you mean getting the data in
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:25
yeah
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:25
yea
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:25
never going to do nightly uploads
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:25
needs an openaps connector
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 25 2016 07:26
yeah, I'd upload in another direction
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 07:26
well obviously the open data bs is the main issue.
getting my minimed data uploaded to minimed itself is a joke.
alright, guys i am out. gnit
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 07:28
agreed, 'gnight
Julia Schober
@julza78
Mar 25 2016 10:55
Hi, i have a question on HotSwap: As i dont have an on transmitter, i was looking for a 3D printable version. I thought a Dummy to press down the movable part would be enough. Now someone askes me: "How your sensor will stabilized without supplying a power on it? The transmitter constantly applied to the sensor is about 0.2 volts for proper chemical reactions. So the first two hours the system reaches equilibrium. A dummy is not capable to this and will have no effect. In other words, stabilization only starts when you put on the transmitter and it makes no sense to install the sensor without it. " I thought the old transmitters you are using
dont have power supply anymore but thats ok?
AdrianLxM
@AdrianLxM
Mar 25 2016 11:15
Here is an image of a transmitter removed and re-plugged. The "electro stuff" took just about 8 readings to stabilize:
http://up.picr.de/24242341id.png
The trauma / wound healing /... to properly settle takes much longer for me until it gives me really precise values and is independent of whether a working transmitter is plugged or not.
Gustavo
@bustavo
Mar 25 2016 14:06
@bewest @jmatheson I just saw the videos! and love the idea of documenting the looping and decision making for each project to compare and learn! It would be cool to develop a standard process of documentation so we can compare with the same/similar process and before that just make sure others want to participate
Im adding you to snapchat @jmatheson
tazitoo
@tazitoo
Mar 25 2016 15:37
for those using sensitivity detection - how much historical data are you using? I'm currently pulling 24 hours of data for both pump and CGM.
...looking at the code, there's a minimum length of 72 - I guess I could run some some tests passing it different amounts of data to see how it changes....
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 16:18
The thresholds are designed for 24h of data, which actually means 24h of glucose and 24h+DIA of pumphistory.
If you do shorter, it will potentially overreact, particularly in terms of detecting resistance during the day when you are absorbing carbs for more than 30% of the time.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 16:25
@julza78 pretty sure the dead transmitter we use isn't supplying current. Apparently that isn't a big deal, and most of the benefit from the 24h soak is from the letting the "wound healing" reactions stabilize. When we swap the transmitter we still get an hour of ??? from the switch. Haven't looked at raw data to see how quickly that stabilizes.
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 16:29
@danamlewis @scottleibrand with the dexcom warmup strategy… do you need to put an old transmitter in or is that simply for safety so things don’t dangle around?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 16:30
Safety and comfort
So filament doesn't get ripped out
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 16:30
ok. was just laughing since i did not read the message right above mine yet when i posted.
i am soaking a new one this morning, but dont have an extra transmitter. but i am not active so should be fine
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 17:36
Hi, @garykidd. Yes, we should plan something. I'm in PA, but right next to NJ, about 90m drive from NYC.
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 18:14
Has anyone ported their NS mongodb to something else for historical visual analysis. and if so what did you use and how did it go? i want to lay days on top of each other.
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 18:21
I guess the reports i can get from Glooko are pretty much what I want on the BG side. just does not have any of my pump data.
Screen Shot 2016-03-25 at 11.21.42 AM.png
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 18:48
I worked my way through auto sensitivity configuration earlier this week, but then got backed up at work before getting auto-sens integrated into my loop. So all of the reports run, but I
I'm not sure what to do next. I think my confusion is from the fact that my report names don't always match what is used in the examples.
Is the general idea that oref0.json generated by auto-sens needs to replace prior recommendation without auto-sens?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 18:50
You could create a log or cheat sheet to compare your naming convention to the examples
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 18:52
Do you mean map my names to the ones in the documentation? For clarification, I used the report and device names in the main openaps documentation, but they don't exactly match the auto-sens documentation.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 18:53
Yes. Or to any examples
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 18:54
Yea, I guess. But I'd rather get a clear picture of what is supposed to happen before trying to untangle that knot..
So I think my predict.json from my original attempt follows the exact format of oref0.json in the auto-sens documentation.
Do I just need to use the new recommendation instead of the old one?
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 19:03
Once I figure this out, I was planning to submit a PR to bring examples in the auto-sens docs in line with the primary documentation.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 19:09
Looks like that oref0.json should be suggested.json, or whatever report you write the output of oref0-determine-basal to.
:+1: to making them consistent.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 19:10
Right. Okay, so after walking through the main documentation, I already have a suggested.json file. Should I use the new suggested.json file INSTEAD of the one previously created?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 19:23
You're just adding a few inputs to oref0-determine-basal.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 19:25
Okay, I think we're saying the same thing. The determine-sensitivity report is similar to the determine-basal report, except that it has a few new inputs. So I should use it instead. Thank you.
I'm going to finish auto-sens, then tackle meal-assist. After that, I plan to completely refactor my openaps.ini. It really is a tangled knot right now, but I'm finally starting to understand where all of the threads come from....
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 19:28
Detect-sensitivity is different from determine-basal.
The former generates an autosens.json that is added as an input to the latter.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 19:29
Oh. So how to I pass the output of detect-sensitivity as the input for determine-basal?
Just add auto-sense.json to the determine-basal report?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 19:31
Yeah, and to the device.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 19:32
Okay. Got it. thanks again.
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:16
Hey everyone. It’s been weeks now, and I still haven’t been able to find a compatible pump for a reasonable price (<=$600). One person on craigslist decided not to sell, and no one on MedWow has even responded to me. There are lots of pieces of the project that I would like to contribute to, but it seems like getting support for more recent Medtronic pumps working is critical to a lot of people. Who on the project can I talk to about contributing to this? :) ( ping @scottleibrand )
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 20:17
what do you mean more recent pumps?
you mean flashing a 2.4A software version on a new pump, @morsen ?
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:17
523+ is what I need, or 6 series, or whatever.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:17
have you tried calling medtronic?
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:17
is it possible to flash 2.4a? how can I do that? no, I haven’t.
My son has a 523.
with 2.59 or whatever
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 20:18
no, that’s what I thought you were suggesting re: contributing, as in how to figure that out
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:18
I highly recommend calling medtronic, we could use some help for adding this process to docs/tutorial
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:18
@bewest : What is the current status of this for the project?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:18
it's important to call medtronic and let them know that you want a pump with full access to remote control and access to data, and that the manuals seem to be missing the needed information for this
you can use Nightscout and openaps as examples if they ask for any
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 20:19
^yes. they won’t give you one, but it’s important to continue to raise our voices.
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:19
ok. i’ll do that. right.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 20:19
in terms of finding a compatible (usable) pump..try to find local support groups to ask around, too.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:19
tell them this is the most important issue in selecting/purchasing a medical device, that the owners/users/operators have certain needs
and you'll switch to a competitor otherwise ;-)
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:19
then what? in what way did they change the protocol? is it encrypted now? has any progress been made on reverse engineering it?
ok
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:20
yes, we have full protocol, reverse engineered, for all paradigm series pumps
in 2010/2011, they made a change to the paradigm series where they removed some commands
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 20:20
it’s the capability to send temp basals that is not possible on later version pumps. that’s what we need
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:20
specifically, they removed the "set temp basal" and other "write/control" commands
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:20
oh… I see. well that’s no fun. :(
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:21
for 6 series, it's a different technology altogether
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:21
and so it’s not possible to flash an older firmware on a 523?
@bewest ok
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:21
it certainly is, but I have no idea how
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:21
ok
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:21
ask medtronic how to do that :-D
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 20:21
no one has figured that out, no. (it might be possible, but no one has figured it out in open source land)
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:21
sure, i’ll do that too :)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:21
there is a project underway to decode the six series data
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:21
is it part of OpenAPS or separate?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:22
lot of progress there, but again, the information we need should be present in the manuals and is not
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:22
agreed
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:22
sure, in the same way decoding-carelink or Nightcout is
most problems like this are best isolated and framed as standalone well-framed question
that way more progress/focus can be achieved more efficiently
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:23
agreed. who/where is that project?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:23
hmmm
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 20:23
@morsen I've had luck buying from craigslist long-distance. This allows you to search more broadly with google:
site:craigslist.org minimed 522
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:23
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:23
this has been my search: medtronic (minimed OR paradigm) (522 OR 523) site:craigslist.org
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:23
for six series
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Mar 25 2016 20:24
You'll get results from all over the place. I've found that people are usually willing to ship, especially if you pay up front.
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:24
thx @eluhrs
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:24
but again, the information we need should be in the user manual
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:24
thx @bewest
yes
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:24
they won't give it to you
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:24
:)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:24
in fact first line phone support won't have a clue what you are talking about
so be prepared to just try and file/escalate a ticket
filing tickets is expensive for them... they get audited and have a process that has to be done
so with enough tickets like this, it really impacts them
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:25
cool
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 20:26
there's a list of open issues on https://github.com/bewest/decoding-carelink/issues, various feature requests and things if you want to get super specific
"how to re-enable set-temp-basal for 523's, etc"
"how to enter carbs via remote"
how to decode records correctly, etc
there's more commands, such "set basal schedule", "flash firmware" etc....
holding the vendors accountable is something we definitely need help with.... if you could add to wiki/docs info about your experience and help others do the same, that would be a huge thing to me
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 20:29
:+1:
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:29
great! ok, thanks. i’ll report back later today or monday. :)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 25 2016 20:30
want to add more info and explicit suggestions to this page: http://openaps.readthedocs.org/en/dana-dev/docs/introduction/contribute.html
Nathan Morse
@morsen
Mar 25 2016 20:30
:thumbsup:
tazitoo
@tazitoo
Mar 25 2016 21:40
you might also want to broaden your model search. I found a 715 that works for looping on craigslist
and typos can help (sometimes)
http://houston.craigslist.org/for/5474365448.html (doubtful he's from the future and is selling a highly advanced 772...)
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 22:22
I want to write a reply to the email i got about upgrading from Medtronic. I just made a google doc. Would love thoughts, edits, comments etc. feel free to sugget them inside the doc. I can publish what we end up with back to this group
Thoughts? (the person that anonymously scanned the doc and looked at all the key words)
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 22:41
i made some edits. i think it might have too much of a negative spin...
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 23:21
hmmm I like it in general
it does come across a little aggressive, hmmm it might be worth trying to frame each of the claims with a question for them to verify/consider
like confirming we need access to set temp basal, bolus, etc... there's probably a communication gap in understanding what we're asking for
so maybe, we can confirm that our software can use the carelink usb stick or our own hardware to issue bolus and set temp basal commands to the pump
we use this to increase the fidelity and efficacy of our therapy and need a solution that continues to offer this access
so can they confirm that the 530g or the connect would include these things and that they are documented properly
I think maybe reserve the "I'll purchase elsewhere" threats for a little later, make sure everyone is on the same page and talking about the same thing first
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 25 2016 23:26
if it's about features of getting access to data, they'll just come back and recommend using glooko http://newsroom.medtronic.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=251324&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2056781
garykidd
@garykidd
Mar 25 2016 23:33
is raspbian jesse OK fsystem or RPi3?
Jim Matheson
@jmatheson
Mar 25 2016 23:36
it is still listed as coming soon when i try to figure out if i can connect it to Glooko
but still may be wrong to mention them if Glooko is actually close to having it
Stephan
@MosiGitHub
Mar 25 2016 23:38
hi ... my loop is stuck because it just gets old bg values (half an hour old). the pump is showing current bg values and the times seem to be okay. Reboot of the edison didn't help. Every time I ask the pump by use of iter_glucose I get the same old values. Any ideas?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 23:45
Are you using Medtronic CGM?
If so, need to collect the raw pages with decocare so someone like @bewest can see if there's something in the history we're not decoding correctly.
Stephan
@MosiGitHub
Mar 25 2016 23:46
yes .. enlites ..
I just did a new calibration, maybe this helps - just don't have any ideas
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 23:47
I believe the decocare repo has directions for collecting pages of data.
Stephan
@MosiGitHub
Mar 25 2016 23:47
how to get raw pages with decocare ?
okay I will take a look -thanks in advance
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 23:47
or you can search back in this channel: it comes up a fair bit.
Stephan
@MosiGitHub
Mar 25 2016 23:48
:+1:
Stephan
@MosiGitHub
Mar 25 2016 23:55
the command : mm-send-comm.py --init --serial 123456 tweak ReadHistoryData --save --page 0 I found did't work because of the port that is not open. But it seems for me, that the calibration has fixed it. The iter_glucose is working again. I had this a couple of days ago - strange
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 23:55
Are you using carelink or mmeowlink?
Stephan
@MosiGitHub
Mar 25 2016 23:57
mmeowlink... a TI soldered to the breakout board in this rig
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 25 2016 23:57
There is an equivalent mmeowlink command for mm-send-comm