These are chat archives for nightscout/intend-to-bolus

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Mar 2016
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:00
well, in theory it's for testing those parts
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 00:00
seems like there's some upper/lower limit of readability you'd want to be the maximum/minimum contrast
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:00
It's two discrete bytes. One for at-rest and one for menus
Yeah 0 is a strange allowable value
But it's not surfaced to the user
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 00:01
yeah, may be reasonable to include that as part of a test suite
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 00:01
do you have to give .1 or more unit for the carb entry to work?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:01
this is why they claim it's their "debug interface"
it's literally what they use in factory to verify the parts themselves
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:01
@CrushingT1D yes in the old models
otherwise the carbs don’t stick.
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:01
No, 523 accepts "0 value" bolus wizards
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:01
(522 and lower)
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:01
Yeah
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:02
523 also doesn’t require hoop jumping to see IncorrectIOB, fwiw.
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:02
The journaling is a different history entry, but also only on 523
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 00:02
i am on x22
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:02
yea, so you’d have to have a .1
not that big of a deal if your loop is running
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:02
in theory, the technique that works for creating journal entries would also work for minting/inserting bolus wizard entries
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:02
We haven't found a bolus wizard command though, right?
They are different history types,
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:03
if you wanted to test the memory recall function of this device, what commands might you create to easily test that?
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 00:03
i really just want to be able to track all my carbs somehow at the time when i eat them. and have it be easy. (and i dont consider NS entry easy)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:03
@CrushingT1D do you mind the pump bolus wizard entry?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:04
dozens that each require different params and their own testing, or a single command which inserts history items?
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:04
@bewest probably just normal bolus
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 00:04
theres the careportal pebble watch app
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:04
I can’t remember if it’s you or @JaysonEwer who said they were fine with it
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 00:04
yeah, i can live with it. its the best of the crappy options.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 00:04
xdrip+ does by voice
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:04
Right, we still need to find it!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:04
yea, then that’s your best option @CrushingT1D
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:04
@bewest I never got that update from you...
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:04
yeah I never got my update either
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:05
Boooo
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 00:05
my preference is to put them into my phone and have them be part of my loop (looks at @loudnate with :star: eyes)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:05
pic or that didn’t happen @CrushingT1D ;)
lol @bewest
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 00:05
I'm sure he's recording
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:05
Right @CrushingT1D, but it would be nice to put carbs into the pump too
I had to give that up
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:06
this is another one of my "ask medtronic questions"
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:06
It was a painful two weeks of trying to run both systems
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 00:06
yea, in general i want to do deeper carb analysis so hope to some day enter food in something myfitnesspal like (as good or better)
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:06
Yep, OneDrop has a new and improved carb entry screen
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 00:07
i cant figure out one drop
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:07
there’s a lot of ways to make that work, @CrushingT1D
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:07
Er, meal search
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 00:07
in general i cant figure out that app or how to get any of my data. with that said i only played with it for 2 mins.
Nathan Racklyeft
@loudnate
Mar 31 2016 00:07
LoopKt pulls in those carb entries from any other apps that store into HealthKit, which is a lot right now
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 00:08
:star2: eyes
yeah mfp for sure works on that front.
cause i used it pre openaps days
seems like if my 722 and 723 had a baby i’d be in good shape.
assuming the genes selection pass through how i wanted them to.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 00:11
i think it’s more time-efficient to go design a new thing to pull in carbs from the things you want ;)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:12
this is an issue where we need to be like the bike-makers
where we need to make it clear to industry they need UX for expectations on carbs to be more flexible
that probably means giving us access to some command in the next-gen device (since their UI is probably already frozen)
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 00:22
@bewest about the bluetooth stuff from yesterday, I have so far only installed the bluez-5.33 referenced from the readme https://github.com/bewest/Adafruit_Python_BluefruitLE/tree/wip/bewest/custom-gatt-profile, but don't have the /etc/init.d/bluetooth script that it says I need to edit, something else needs to be installed I think
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:28
check your /etc/rc.local instead
there's a hack where some people use that, and it's in the adafruit readme :-(
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 00:31
Sounds like we need to make our own openaps/docs version of the setup steps
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:32
no, just need to change recommendations so that /etc/rc.local is less likely to be used
there's 2 ways I'd prefer to support, either using systemd or upstart
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 00:33
What we have now confuses everyone. I tried to fix, but don't think I succeeded
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:33
and the reasoning there is because it's standard and all the normal tools will work (meaning it can be automated/scripted)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 00:34
we need setup docs that don't require knowing what systems or upstart are.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:34
or "go edit this file"
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 00:35
yeah, that is also bad
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:35
for push button needs to be automated/reproducible/scriptable: I know how to do that for sure using systemd or upstart
because it's part of the toolchain
it's doable with /etc/rc.local just harder to transition across certain scales
it's not just the adafruit docs, to be clear
the reason I haven't changed those is because I found edison's default build doing the same thing
and also found ocean's box doing same thing
but others do the standard thing by default, rpi, beagle
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 00:38
I think we only need openxshareble to work with Pi and Edison
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:39
would be nice to get a sense of where the distros we like for those are on roadmap/releases themselves
edison ubilinux ships a kind of funny version of bluez by default, looks like it was built from source and left on the image, which means it's kind of awkward to upgrade
if there's somewhere I can host debs, that would be best
that way we can build the right debs and just put a line in the apt sources list
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 00:40
@mddub's nightscout/cgm-remote-monitor#1560 will have the OpenAPS IOB in the NS pill, but we need to add multi-rig support
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:41
I looked at bintray but had a hard time setting it up, on ubuntu, it looks like they won't let me host rpi builds (not sure about ubilinux)
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 00:41
@bewest I have it in /etc/rc.local didn't know if I needed a service too
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:42
nah, in /etc/rc.local it will interfere with a proper service
just make sure it's set to --experimental there
you'll have to kill it/manually restart it or reboot
for example, one of the "funny" things that can happen is where bluetoothd gets installed
often, it's not placed anywhere in the path, because it's not considered a userspace tool
but then, sometimes it shows up in /usr/local/bin or similar on the path
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 00:44
ok, just planning out what I'll do tonight, I have the experiment flag in there
realized that sleeping and not working makes me angry, so I'd rather be tired, maybe I'll figure out a way to balance it later
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 00:50
oy
Jason Curry
@mccgm
Mar 31 2016 01:05
Off topic question: I am about to replace my out of warranty Medtronic 723. Medtronic now offers a $780 trade in credit for old pumps...I have been looping with this pump 24/7 for two months now and the Carelink usb just gave out...
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 01:06
is the Q about returning a loop-able 723? Because I wouldn’t!
Jason Curry
@mccgm
Mar 31 2016 01:06
Any issues trading in the old looping pump to Medtronic after it has been looping???
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 01:06
carelink’s are cheap and magnitudes easier to replace
only that you won’t get a loop-able pump back! don’t do it!
you’d probably even find someone on/around here that would be willing to buy it for similar if you have another loop-able pump and are just looking to swap it for financial reasons.
Jason Curry
@mccgm
Mar 31 2016 01:08
That answers my question! So the revel is no longer hackable?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 01:08
any pump you get from medtronic today does NOT allow us to issue remote temp basal commands. you can read data from it, but you will not be able to write the loop-able temp basal commands.
Jason Curry
@mccgm
Mar 31 2016 01:11
So so glad I asked...I had a feeling about this. Thanks for the quick response, Dana. That Medtronic rep is going to be so mad when I tell her never mind. Lol. She knows I am looping but didn't say they had changed their platform.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 01:12
glad you asked, too! welcome. I’m sure they get changed answers all the time, though, for various reasons (some people like having a backup pump, etc.)
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 01:28
@scottleibrand currently AMA has an array for iob, I'm wondering if we should only send the first iob via ns-status, any reason we'd want them all in NS?
it's going to have an effect on any other use of the iob, such as urchin, the ns pills, etc
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 02:35
It might be useful for purple line BG predictions. Or we could recalculate in NS...
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 02:36
argh. installed ruby on my edison. over quota
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 02:43
@jasoncalabrese but to get things working, first record of the array should be current IOB etc.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 04:01
yeah, believe ruby + node + python will bust an edison's quota
it's just enough for python + node
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 04:16
I have all three w/o issue.
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 31 2016 04:39
why arent you guys using the SDcard addon for the edison then you wouldn't have to worry about size constraints? (Yea you'd have sdcard corruption to worry about tho)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 04:43
Our main rig is on an Intel board, but that might be a good option for sparkfun ones. Not sure if the SD board makes a good spacer beneath the battery board or not.
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 31 2016 04:45
probably not good for spacer since the sdcard slot is on the same side as the connectors
I'm a bit surprised they didn't alternate which side they have connectors on
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 04:57
i think the ruby seems to work better.
i am going to write a script to roll off my log files in a better manner and store them in a different partition
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 04:58
IIRC the SD slot is under one of the battery wires but not the other.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 04:58
i have no idea how to move partitions. i have plenty of space just not in the root. if anyone figures it out let me know
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 31 2016 04:59
and maybe the slot is a bit thinner than a connector since the sd card itself is thinner?
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 04:59
no reason for an sd card in that case
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 31 2016 05:01
yea but it would give a bit more flexibility spacewise to do more devwork on it and if it indeed is thinner and not contacting both posts like scott said, then it would be a good spacer too
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 05:03
i dont use a spacer. just tape works fine for me. I bought the proper kind off sparkfun (tape that is) for a couple bucks.
my NS graph is hillariously boring. it’s basically a fairly straight green line for days on end.
:)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 05:04
With no single partition having enough free space for the data from the others, I don't think there is any easy way to resize and consolidate them. Easier to make a new image.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 05:05
yeah. so if anyone knows how to do it as a new image I am game for that too :)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 05:05
With an SD slot you could probably do it, but probably not worth it.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 05:05
i could not figure out how to do that either #rookie
Brian Bonner
@itsn0tm3
Mar 31 2016 05:05
:) @CrushingT1D I'm hoping to be able to do the same at some point!
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 05:05
i have a new edison waiting to be flashed
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 05:06
@danamlewis I think it was me that mentioned I was "ok" with the pump bolus wizard entry. I'm not sure i've put as much thought into it as you have though. :-D I forget what your concerns with it are.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 05:07
i used the .1 bolus tonight for my slow carb dinner.
COB is still 2x though. i guess i need to edit my ini so it does not look at NS
and still try to help figure out why there is no decay
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 05:11
@JaysonEwer too many button presses and I have to look at the screen; vs using easy bolus button to do meal bolus. But my ratio is 1:10 so a lot easier :) and then I used DIYPS (2-3 button clicks on phone instead of 8-10 on pump) to put carbs in
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 05:15
basically just move /var/cache to /home/ and symlink it.
Could do that with any large directory most likely.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 05:17
@danamlewis That's right, I remember you mentioning that at dinner in DC. I periodically use my easy bolus, but i'm not a NINJA like you....YET!
@scottleibrand That's good to know, I'm book marking that site. I didn't get to my Edison today, but perhaps tomorrow. :-)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 05:31
goodnight, talk to you later
Pete Schwamb
@ps2
Mar 31 2016 05:32
Yocto comes with ruby on it, and after a full install of openaps, is still < 50%. I’ve been accumulating a lot of junk on it, and I’m still only around 60%.
Has nobody else been trying Yocto? Was pretty simple to set up (certainly easier than reflashing with a new os).
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 05:34
Could you update the mmeowlink wiki to detail the steps required to use yocto? Pretty sure people are just going with what is well documented.
And it’s linked in on the main page.
Or, maybe just in the index on the right, looks like.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 05:36
Cool. Been awhile since I did an Edison install.
Pete Schwamb
@ps2
Mar 31 2016 05:38
I haven’t done it in a long time either; would be nice to hear someone else try. I’d definitely be willing to help with any questions.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 05:41
i can try it when i do that other edison i did see some old things in the gitter rooms where you (@ps2) were trying to set a few things up that seemed to be different. still the case? i cant remember what they were
Pete Schwamb
@ps2
Mar 31 2016 05:43
I think I had a couple passes. The wiki page is from the notes I took while doing the second pass.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 06:04
cool. i will let you know how it goes. might take a couple days.
although flashing edisons was one of my main uses for the Pi :)
Martin Haeberli
@mhaeberli
Mar 31 2016 07:09
Long story short - our long loved 723 pump probably just bit the dust - the buttons were getting stuck! So we will probably have to switch to a new Medtronic pump. Will it still be possible to close the loop? We were hoping to begin soon . Or will we have to find somehow an older pump? What steps do we need to take ... ?
kameamea
@kameamea
Mar 31 2016 08:06
@mhaeberli new medtronic pumps do not allow to close the loop. Somebody posted a link here recently with instructions how to fix broken buttons on your own for a Medtronic pump, you might find that with a google search and perhaps you can fix it?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 09:47
@mhaeberli sorry your pump is dying, encourage you to call medtronic and make sure they know what you need
whenever I talk to them they say the market is not asking for this and they don't make pumps for me
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 09:48
just merged @mddub's nightscout/cgm-remote-monitor#1560 via nightscout/cgm-remote-monitor#1572, now the IOB pill in NS will match OpenAPS if you're uploading devicestatus
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 09:48
nice
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 09:49
that should go a long way to helping Heidi and the school staff understand what the loop has done
tomorrow is the first time they'll see -IOB
or today I guess...
Screenshot 2016-03-31 02.50.53.png
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 09:54
wow that's nifty
so they'll see per rig ownership
that's super cool
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 09:55
Screenshot 2016-03-31 02.55.03.png
matches the tooltip pill
cool that it's using the same things for openaps, mmconnect, RileyLink, and any pump we can get device status from
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 09:57
yeah, that's huge and probably overlooked like many features (such as REST api)
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 09:58
will even show right on the standard pebble watchfaces
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 09:58
that is really cool
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 09:59
and works in retro mode
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 10:01
apparently new pebble says "powdered" all the time
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 10:01
even works in the reports
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 10:01
I think it means done which I am
but you are a real inspiration to me.... I hope I can be like you when I grow up
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 10:02
tomorrow is going to be a long day, alarm goes off in 2.5 hours
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 10:03
wincingI did that on tuesday and failed anyway
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 10:03
wow the iob curves including temp basals, never seen that before
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 10:14
And BWP works with with OpenAPS now and -IOB
@sulkaharo @MilosKozak check it out
Martin Haeberli
@mhaeberli
Mar 31 2016 10:17
Meanwhile- any trustworthy source of used 723s?
Milos Kozak
@MilosKozak
Mar 31 2016 11:43
-IOB is calculated in NS or does it come from devicestatus?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 13:08
it comes from devicestatus
@jasoncalabrese very nice! just upgraded to the latest NS dev and got OpenAPS IOB: I like it a lot. :-) cc @danamlewis
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 13:36
I think we still want to pull oref0 into NS
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 13:59
Yeah
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 14:03
This ^^ will make @logichammer and others very happy :)
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 16:46
Screenshot 2016-03-31 09.46.24.png
I've never seen IOB curves with temps included
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 16:48
Nice
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 16:48
not the smooth fake curve we normally see
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 16:51
Were those breakfast carbs given at the time indicated, or later?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 16:52
he's only had 12g of that so far
so didn't need the milk today
really messed up the dinner bolus last night
so probably extra resistance from the high after bedtime
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 16:53
Interesting that even the 12g took way longer to absorb than the COB curve.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 16:54
he went into breakfast with some -IOB, I think thats the reason
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 16:54
Once we figure out the bug, I think you'll like the better COB calculation in AMA.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 16:55
yeah, I think so too
the COB you're using is only from DIYPS entry via NS right? maybe something specific to using pump history?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 16:57
We can use pump carbs as well, but I haven't tested that thoroughly.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 16:58
Since you and J both seeing it, I think it's a pump history thing
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 17:11
i am trying out entering the insulin as a manual bolus (15-20m ahead of time) and then the carbs as a bolus wizard but then down to 0.1u
it did seem sketchy though since i almost bolused again with the wizard since that extra button press is so normal for me to do.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 17:13
Yeah, you'd have to retrain yourself to always do full boluses with the easy bolus buttons instead of via bolus wizard.
We probably just need to write some little apps or web interfaces to make carb entry easier from phone.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 17:14
the problem was during part 2 when i went to enter the carbs. i wanted that logged when i actually ate them
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 17:14
Finally getting around to pretty-Ing up DIYPS ;)
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 17:15
maybe OpenAPS can ask for the bolus, similar to DIPYS, but without an interface
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 17:15
not sure if that make sense
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 17:15
Ask for the bolus? As an alert?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 17:15
via pushover, slackbot, txt, etc
yeah
really want a slackbot to my rigs, that I can chat with
ask them status questions, start modes, etc
something like @Indy prepare for breakfast, 24g in 20min
then it could adjust temps, and if needed ask for a bolus in number of easy bolus clicks
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 17:23
Maybe do Amazon Echo integration too. :-)
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 17:30
also with the IOB from OpenAPS in NS, BWP seems to be mostly working, so it can send alerts when a bolus is needed based on BG, but isn't considering carbs yet
amoskane
@amoskane
Mar 31 2016 17:47
@mhaeberli Here’s a quick video on how to clean off those buttons: https://youtu.be/nWRVSHXN5cQ Don’t be scared, it’s actually quite easy! I would get that 723 working again to have as a backup or trade item. Unless it has 2.4 firmware, the 723 can’t loop either, but I traded mine to another diabetic for her 722 and we were both happy. Other than that, I recommend making an IFTT notification for whenever a 722 hits a craigslist in a big market. I added the top 25 most populated cities and got a 722 from Houston a week ago. Worked for me. :)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 17:50
:+1:
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 17:54
@amoskane do you mind me asking how much you paid for the 722 from Craigslist?
amoskane
@amoskane
Mar 31 2016 17:55
not at all. 500 minus shipping, so 455
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 17:55
Nice
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 17:56
Cool
amoskane
@amoskane
Mar 31 2016 17:56
i would NOT usually buy something off craigslist without meeting/seeing it. BUT, this was a special scenario, and it worked out. I was counting on diabetics being pretty trustworthy.
:)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 17:57
I'd like one of those, I ended spending about that much for my 522.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 17:57
The one thing you could do is ask for a video, showing it boot up and validating the software on the screen as it boots
amoskane
@amoskane
Mar 31 2016 17:57
I got my 522 running agian after a button error, but that gave me pause. These pumps are 10 years old now- circa 2006, so having a backup is a huge relief.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 17:57
:+1:
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 17:59
Yep, I ended up getting another 522 for about 250, but it's in a little tougher shape.
How long do you guys usually wait for the hot swap Dexcom trick, before doing the swap that is? I know it has to be done in a very short time<10 seconds, but do you let the new sensor acclimate and if so for how long?
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 18:02
the more the better
i did 8 hours, but i heard @danamlewis does up to 24?
if you time it when you have to go to the 2 hour time out box then there is no need to hot swap, but if you get in a mid week bind it might help. At least with the G5. i know there are G4 tricks to get it shorter.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 18:05
If you have two receivers you never have to time out for 2h
with the G4
yeah, G5 gives you no choice AFAIK, but we don't use it yet.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 18:06
i got it to hot swap once and never lost BG, but the second time it did not work
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 18:06
We noticed the sensor is jumpy for the first 24h, so we shoot for that.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 18:06
24 is ideal, but even 12 is a bit better than starting from 2, if you haven't lost your old sensor
With hot swap I lose readings for about an hour, then it comes back in
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 18:18
has anyone seen this before? https://gluvue.stanfordchildrens.org/
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 18:19
Ok, cool. I got a full two weeks out of my last sensor, but it just totally died in the last day. I was going to try the swap, but just realized my tape had come loose and the sensor got bumped so I only had the new one in place for less than an hour. I do have two receivers so I should just plan better for the future. 😏😎
amoskane
@amoskane
Mar 31 2016 18:20
@CrushingT1D looks like a pile of rainbow worms. ha!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 18:20
Ya. I read the adhesive and have learned to put a new one on 75% of the time at least a day before the other one falls or rips off
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 18:21
I quickly did the swap, was already into my third session and both my receivers went from ??? To ⏳ icon. So I just opted to re-start one of them, I'll see if the other one picks back up. :-D
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 18:21
I rarely get anything above 2 weeks, and accuracy falls off a cliff if I try to restart for a 3rd week, so I usually do new one at least by day 13 if not sooner because of adhesive wearing off
Martin Haeberli
@mhaeberli
Mar 31 2016 18:21
@amoskane thx!
on a related thread, can we use CareLink USB stick with the new 530G at least to read data from the pump?
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 18:22
@danamlewis, you are so precise! Awesome!!
Thanks for the info!
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 18:24
@mhaeberli yes
as far as we know everything up to 530G has openaps read-only capabilities
640G and 670G do not
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 18:25
@jaysonewer it's nice when there's a pattern to predict behavior! Otherwise frustrating to be surprised when you have to go data-less for 2 hours and/or aren't carrying a sensor with you when you need it
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 18:25
I usually make it about 10 days with Skin Tac and then the edges peel up. I have my wife reapply fresh skin tac and it gives it another week at least.
but i do a self bail out when 3 week mark approaches
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 18:26
I've got a Facebook dialogue started with Medtronic about the method I should use to send a temporary basal to my 530G. 😜 I'm not sure if it's a very good idea or I'm going about it in a very well thought out way like @bewest would do, but we'll see if they provide any details.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 18:26
:)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 18:27
I'll post a picture of the dialogue so far. :-D
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 18:30
thanks for the reminder. i just sent that email I wrote off to the Medtronic rep that emailed me about upgrading.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 18:31
I did get Medtronic to send me some sample sets for free to try as a result of tweeting at them. so at least on the social media side they seem responsive
I'm quite sure I'm not talking to the correct person, but I think I'll use the @bewest scoot and give them a call.
*script
Are those images viewable by you guys?
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 18:50
yes
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 18:59
found your AMA bug @jasoncalabrese
your glucose data doesn't have a "glucose" field, just "sgv"
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:00
oh, we should fix that in the meal tool, to convert on the fly
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:01
pls try openaps/oref0@7d753ea
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:01
we need to do a bunch of refactoring
thanks, will get it going tonight
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:04
with that change I was able to get oref0-meal to run manually on your indy-e3 repo and generate: {"carbs":42,"boluses":3.4,"mealCOB":29}
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:04
cool
good use for pushing to github
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:05
another win for git, ya
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:06
@bewest :clap:
think his pump site is going bad, should give up on them at 48hrs till we get something else
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:15
@jasoncalabrese pretty sure that bug was also affecting your autosens
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:17
all mine are sgv as well. Isn’t that normal?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:17
probably. I have both, so I just changed it to always use sgv
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:17
i download all my BG from NS
via share
just as an fyi
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:18
so do we, but I think we do a glucose = sgv at some point
had to do that awhile back for compatibility with data coming directly off the CGM
will need to test this against all our configs to see if I need to support both, or what
for now it's in the AMA branch but not on any of our rigs. won't be testing that on the plane. :)
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:20
i just dropped the code in locally so will see what happens
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:20
makes sense, I was hoping its a data issue
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:20
@jasoncalabrese which NS report were you running that showed negative IOB visualized instead of the fake smooth ones?
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:20
of course my pump comms are failing right now
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:21
the day to day
start the report and then go get lunch or something...
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:21
I ran that report and don't see it
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:22
there are some checkboxes for iob, cob, and openaps
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:22
yeah, I checked all three
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:22
strange, should be working
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:22
was there a newer commit after the main IOB one?
that enabled it in reports?
I have openaps IOB in the pill
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:23
it's all together
it's possible there's a bug with the handling of the ama iob arrays
but I think I added a test for it
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:24
is yours running AMA?
Martin Haeberli
@mhaeberli
Mar 31 2016 19:24
so - Medtronic is upselling us from our out-of-warrantee 723 to a new pump (with help from insurance). But they are telling us the new pump will be a 723. I still have to check the old pump firmware version, but it seems certain that the new pump will be “too new” to loop. In that context, any benefit / risks in asking for a 530G? Is there some other Medtronic pump we should prefer?
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:25
wondering if i should try to hook a dex receiver for the first time so i have an easier / offline way to roll on my trip to London
the 723 i got in the mail around the end of Nov had 3.0 firmware
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:25
@mhaeberli are you using MDT CGM?
if so, the 530G does have threshold suspend, which is marginally better than nothing for some folks
Sulka Haro
@sulkaharo
Mar 31 2016 19:26
Yay this is very cool
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:26
is your current 723 got the right firmware for looping? if so i’d decline the upgrade.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:26
agreed
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:27
or if you can just get a new one and keep the old one then great. I am considering doing that with the 530G and then not opening the box and trying to sell it on medwow for 2-3 other pumps that can or might be able to loop
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:28
:+1:
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:31
interesting, just got an email from a “daibetes educator” at Medtronic about 30m after emailing that sales rep back with questions about comms
"Do you have any questions, concerns, or comments for me? I’d love to hear how you’re doing. "
well as a matter of fact….:)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 19:35
:thumbsup:
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:37
time to edumicate the educators! ;-)
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:38
seems like the loop is still reporting 2x my carb entry from a few hours ago
was the fix supposed to address that part?
(I did put in your ini line that you sent over yesterday)
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here is the reply i went with….

I've been on Medtronic pumps for 15 years, and I am always excited to jump on the newest technology available.

I did recently get an email from someone in your Sales group about being able to upgrade to a 530G, but I am a bit hesitant because the firmware on these newer pumps are more restrictive. My estimated A1C is currently 5.6 and I am really nervous to switch to a system that might not allow me remote access to reports and to send bolus/basal commands to the pump.

Have detailed protocol manuals been released for the 530G and Connect device? It would be great to be able to finally get my data more easily in a format that works for me.

If needed, I am happy to speak with someone on the technical side on your end. Let me know what you can find out!

Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 19:43
:sparkles: :clap:
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:44
are you deleting the old carbhistory before you run oref0-meal?
if not, that logic won't help by itself: it'll just use the old one
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 19:48
👏👏💪 Well done, @CrushingT1D
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:49
i like the approach of saying “I am using your old stuff” and it is working amazing for me. the problem is it is a hack and it is old and likely going to die soon and BTW you are getting no fresh $$ from me staying on the old stuff.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:50
@scottleibrand we should probably use either sgv or glucose, we're doing that in other places, maybe we can commonize it some
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 19:52
@scottleibrand i found the problem with my ini. editing files while running is dicy, so hopefully this fixes it. Your ini line overwrites the file so i am not sure why i need to delete it.
ns-meal-carbs = ! bash -c "curl -m 30 -s \"$NIGHTSCOUT_HOST/api/v1/treatments.json?find\[created_at\]\[\$gte\]=date -d \"6 hours ago\" -Iminutes&find\[carbs\]\[\$exists\]=true\" > monitor/carbhistory.json && oref0-meal monitor/pump-history-zoned.json settings/profile.json monitor/clock-zoned.json monitor/carbhistory.json > monitor/meal.json; exit 0”
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 19:55
why are you editing instead of doing an openaps alias add?
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 19:56
you run add multiple times, I never trust all the escaping
so always edit the ini directly
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:02
that is how my brain works. i like to see what is going on and then update it by hand. if i am writing my own commands i dont see the point in figuring out how to do all the escape stuff and creating an alias add. especially since it is not something i am sharing with anyone else.
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side note - i am currently using a 100% the same ini file now across a pi and an edison (but both are using TI sticks)
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:11
just got a call from the diabetes educator :) going to talk in 15 mins
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 20:11
Can we setup a con call? 😜
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:11
we really need to start using openaps import for everything
maybe I need to start posting all my stuff as --json
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:12
i saw your json post for AMA and i actually did not know what it was, so i just read it by hand to figure out what to do
any advice for this call?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 20:13
Be nice/gentle :) and remember that s/he's not likely going to know or understand , and expect to ask to talk to the next person if s/he doesn't
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:14
stay away from "new features" discussion and focus on "how do I use my existing device to do what its hardware is capable of?" and what Dana said
see if you can get them to open/update a ticket for someone else to follow up on re: the stuff the CDE can't address
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:14
should i talk about openaps?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 20:14
Your message was really good, so if you stick with that it should be interesting to hear where your convo goes
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:15
I would try to frame it as larger context, not "just for OpenAPS", but no reason not to mention that as an example of the kind of tools you're using IMO
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 20:15
I think that's a judgment call, talking general about capabilities is probably more effective from the get-go
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:15
i could actually see getting her on board on how aweosme it is. seems like she has been there for about 18mo and has a diet/nutrition background.
or just that i am using something that has been helping tramdendously
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:16
I would focus on how your ability to use their pump's radio interface has helped tremendously, but you're concerned that they haven't published any information on how to do so safely
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 20:16
Yea. We have dozens of people inside aware about it, I think adding more to the group of those who are aware and interested in supporting the empowerment of customers is always good :)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:17
so you'd like her help in getting in touch with the right people to confirm the protocol to interact with the pump in a way that won't cause any issues
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:17
i like that wording scott
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:18
we (@loudnate and @bewest) have had problems when attempting to interact with pumps and triggering commands that did unexpected things, like setting the screen contrast to zero
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 20:18
I would like to emphasize the fact that I am already taking the liability on MYSELF of a potential "problem" occurring. Please please please let me sign the paperwork that removes the liability from THEM and let me communicate with the pump.
I'll sign a legal document to be able to flip the bit in the firmware to use the "insecure" data protocol on the newer pumps.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:23
will the pump comms simply get push back since they shut that down a couple years back?
its basically “you should not be on that anymore, we’ve upgraded most people"
?
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 20:24
Probably, but people communicat with remote devices securely every day. Why has it not been "fixed" yet?
It's 2016!!!
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:27
the solution was to remove the commands
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:27
I would focus on documenting the pump's current capabilities, not getting into legal arguments over whether we should be allowed to have access to those commands again.
Even just getting the read-only protocol fully documented would be a big win.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:28
yeah, or even admitting that patients are in fact depending on these things currently
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:29
Focus on how you want to do things like what they're doing with Minimed Connect, but without being limited to just waiting for it to query the pump once a day.
No reason we shouldn't have access to the same protocol the MM Connect uses so we can extend its capabilities for advanced users.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 20:29

These devices comply with Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) This device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesirable operation. It does not interfere with any RF signals transmitted from outside sources.

These standards are designed to provide reasonable protection against excessive radio frequency interference and prevent undesirable operation of the device from unwanted electromagnetic interference. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: ...

Connect is more than once a day, no?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:30
That way they don't have to write app code to support us, just document the protocol that already exists.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 20:30
It plots a graph similar to NS in there website.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:30
Not for full history. They use MySentry broadcasts for the real time stuff.
But that doesn't give you all the info the nightly queries do.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 20:31
I'm not familiar with MySentry? What's that?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:31
It's an old bedside remote monitoring product for which they built in broadcast capabilities to the pumps.
They broadcast BG and reservoir status and a few other things every few minutes if you turn it on.
But not bolus or temp basal history. You have to use the same protocol openaps uses to get that. Which kills the pump battery, so they only do it once a day.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 20:33
It's really an FCC issue, isn't it? As fas as them wanting to comply with current rules and regulations. Not simply a, Please give us the info so WE can be on the wrong side of the law, no? :D. In playing devils advocate.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:33
But for those of us willing to swap out batteries, we're just asking for documentation of the protocol being used.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:33
lease give us info so everyone is on right side of the law
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 20:33
Right
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:34
I used to be very good at making changes, but now I'm not sure what to change. Every time my son goes lower, he gets to the lowest bg, then jumps 80 or more points. Like he got to 94 (sensor said 78), now he's 205 (sensor said 218). What would I change to tell openaps to change that? sensitivity? temp basal max?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:34
it's not an FCC issue
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:34
FCC doesn't care. All MDT radio devices are fully FCC compliant.
@fallon225 need to see what treatments are being given and why to answer that. Do you have NS set up?
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 20:35
immpretty sure I never setup
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:36
they might bring up FDA... I wouldn't expect to change anyone's mind, main goal in doing this is to get a ticket of some kind of filed so they can go have a discussion about it
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:36
2016.03.31.JPG
yes, we do
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:39
since the regulatory side starts to talk about "intended use" pretty quickly, I took a shot at framing the "use of the carelink usb stick" to try to get everything at least using the same terms, that old draft is over here: http://medevice-users.github.io/decoding-presub/02-proposed-use.html
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:41
@fallon225 I see 200g carbs today with only 0.5U bolus?
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:42
We had his range at 120 to 130, I changed that just now to 110 to 120. Before openaps, we had it at 97 to 123.
Yes - he used the suggested amount with a bg of 94. It should have been 1.25 units, but the pump had a negative correction. I'm sure that's a factor (that difference would be about 25 points) and I told him that he shouldn't negative correct anymore because the openaps will try to handle that. But some of the lows, he doesn't eat at all for.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:46
I don't think openaps will be able to deal with that level of unbolused carbs, at least without AMA. Agreed on not using negative corrections, as pump doesn't know about negative net IOB.
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:47
Oh wait, no, he had 11 carbs, not 200
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:47
What branch of oref0 are you using? Package, dev?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:48
I think scott's lumping in the 92 grams of carbs at 12ish?
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:48
oh. Yeah, that was an extended bolus for Taco Bell at 12:15
of an hour
10.2 units
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:48
ah, gotcha
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:49
he bolused for breakfast and morning snack too, not sure why those aren't in the picture. If you hover over it in the website, the totals do show up
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:50
it was a good call overall. she now understands what i want. she is going to try to get someone else to talk with me that may be of more help. did mention FDA and all the normal thing though.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:50
Did openaps register that IOB?
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:50
nice, @CrushingT1D :-)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:50
not sure how it deals with extended boluses.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:50
it doesn't know about those
surprised NS didn't render it right though
probably a bug somewhere
ah, NS doesn't have a vis for the extended part
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 20:51
would need to be sent a different way I think
NS can display it, using a hashed area, but the upload would need to be different
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:51
I think openaps might register them, and just treat them as a standard bolus upon completion.
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:51
Yes, each time today openaps stopped increase temp basals for a bit, and it shows up as documentation
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Mar 31 2016 20:51
and it would block the loop
can't set a temp if an extended is going
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:52
yeah
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:52
@bewest i sent you a PM
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 20:52
I can't find it
I saw a tooltip somewhere
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:52
i figured you did not know since i sent you one a month ago about giving you $$ and you did not reply to that one :)
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:53
each time he goes low though, it gives him a 0% temp for what seems like a long time, until he starts rising. Then it freaks out and gives him a really high temp, but it's too late, and he goes high.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 20:53
if you click on my avatar and click on chat privately it will come up
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:55
@fallon225 to your original question, higher ISF would mitigate that some, if it's doing the inverse and high temping too much when high also.
Which branch are you on?
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:56
Okay. I can change that a bit. Um, I'm not sure. He's the one doing all of the back end stuff. I'm not a programmer. How do I see?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:56
ls ~/src/oref0
if it doesn't exist, you're still on master/packages
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:57
I'll have to ask him when he gets back in the room. I don't know how to get into the pi
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:58
should have him jump on gitter too. :-)
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:58
yeah probably now that you're talking greek lol
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:58
;-)
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 20:59
@scottleibrand We're on the dev branch
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 20:59
Ok, that is good.
Have you set up meal assist?
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 21:00
No we have not
What reports do we need to generate to do that
This is inform880 BTW
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 21:02
If you want to use openaps during daytime use, you'll have to stop using extended boluses and use meal assist or advanced meal assist to get good meal management
there is a gist under my account
Probably want to copy and paste that like by line, not run it all at once. Some of your reports are likely named differently.
Bill Stackpole
@billstackpole
Mar 31 2016 21:12
getting a weird message in /var/log/messages when my loop attempts to run as if openaps can't be found (literally "Mar 31 17:10:01 billopenaps2 openaps-loop: /bin/sh: 1: openaps: not found") I tried to add the absolute path to all entries in the report found in openaps.ini with the same results.
here's a copy of the alias for loop: ''' ('''loop = ! bash -c "usr/local/bin/openaps monitor-cgm 2>/dev/null && echo -n R && ( /usr/local/bin/openaps preflight && echo -n e && /usr/local/bin/openaps gather-profile && echo -n f && /usr/local/bin/openaps monitor-pump && echo -n r && /usr/local/bin/openaps monitor-cgm && echo -n es && /usr/local/bin/openaps glucosecleaner && echo -n h && /usr/local/bin/openaps checkiob && echo -n ed && /usr/local/bin/openaps suggest && echo -n ' wo' && /usr/local/bin/openaps enact && echo -n 'ot!') || echo Something failed."
any ideas?
also, just got my TI sticks in the mail (you were right - very quick from TI) - will I be able to use those with the Pi or do I need to wait for the Edison before configuring?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 21:18
It's not your aliases if it can't find the openaps command.
Can you run openaps manually?
Bill Stackpole
@billstackpole
Mar 31 2016 21:19
yes. and "which openaps" works fine (points to /usr/local/bin)
path:
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 21:19
if so, you're missing a PATH in your crontab to tell it where to find things.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 21:19
cron is a strange place where there is no PATH by default
Bill Stackpole
@billstackpole
Mar 31 2016 21:19
ah - path in the crontab.
excellent pointer.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 21:19
So you need to define a PATH at the top that includes that dir.
Bill Stackpole
@billstackpole
Mar 31 2016 21:20
Should I google or do you have something to paste for me? <smile>
learn something new every day.
fallon225
@fallon225
Mar 31 2016 21:23
@scottleibrand Thanks, we're working on it
mind that mine says bewest and maybe yours should not
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 21:25
echo $PATH to see what to use
Bill Stackpole
@billstackpole
Mar 31 2016 21:25
should I just grab my current path and paste it into the top of cron? looks like @bewest has done that.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 21:25
yep
Bill Stackpole
@billstackpole
Mar 31 2016 21:26
excellent - tnx
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 21:32
BTW, i'm on the phone with Medtronic Connect support, talking to Mary. I've asked to speak with the engineers or developers that have only enabled the Connect uploader/translator device to work in one direction rather than bidirectionly. She is speaking to her Lead right now on how to capture or communicat my wish/concerns with the development team. :-D
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 21:36
you should also see if if the connect allows you to pull your data directly to your local environmet.
and if so is there documentation to do that
because you use nightscout, etc and want direct access to your data instead of using their UI
(or someting like that)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 21:38
She would be notating under my minimed connect profile to provide feedback to engineering of what direction I would like to see the application move in.
I"m starting with having the minimed connect be bidirectional, rather than one direction and then I'll add what you just said James
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 21:39
You're now in feature request purgatory.
Need to get out of that line of conversation and refocus on missing documentation for the existing product.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 21:40
that’s where i was headed with my question. does it allow access? and if so where are the docs.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 21:40
Feature requests are valuable, but unlikely to help on #WeAreNotWaiting timeframes.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 21:43
She's being great
I can hear her typing and I just made her laugh by asking her to include in the notes, "Please give my data wings"
let it not be LOCKED up in the Carelink cloud
:-D
she's said, "I'll definitley put that in."
"Did you have any other suggestion?
I"m happy to be a beta tester, and would love the opportunity to work closely with the development team on new features.....
I've said that, should I add ot my wishlist....Enable FULL OPENAPS integration!!
@scottleibrand I hear you and I believe you are correct, but isn't it also helpful to get our request notated as @bewest has shared previously that he's getting push back that there are no other users requesting similar functionality from them...If we can get 17000 CGM in the Cloud users to call MM and request a similar feature set, perhaps they will get the idea? NO?
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 21:49
I"ve asked her to share with me what she is providing to her development team. In other words, can she share with me what we have just collaborated on together on this call. :-)
She's checking if her security protocols permit this type of thing. :-D :Elevator-HOLD-Music:
They are giving me the SVN number we have just created.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 21:54
thanks @JaysonEwer an @CrushingT1D
was just brainstorming with @CrushingT1D , might be fun to make "bingo cards" to help guide people through these conversations, as well as make it fun
"intended use", "off label", "FDA prevents us"
if it's helpful for people, I just created a tag that can be used to filter all the issues that could be fixed if I had access to the protocol documentation: https://github.com/bewest/decoding-carelink/labels/askmedtronic
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:04
Glooko is claiming (via twitter back and forth) to have beta with Minimed Connect finally (the press release was from last june)
so if they they are choosing to release it here and there that could be a crack
pretty sure that Minimed Connect wont work with my 722 though
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:16
What does this really tell me? I am trying to figure out why i have been 140 for 2 hours with no carbs on board (essentially none, although i entered 5 carbs)
```"reason": "COB: 5, Dev: 20, BGI: -4.28, Target: 95; Eventual BG 103>=100, 28m@1.350 = 0.630 > req 0.25+0.1U",
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:16
Mary is awesome!!!
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:16
it says -4.28 BGI
and thinks i am going to go down BG wise
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:17
She has been at MM for 3 months, on the floor for 1 month. SHe's never had an awesome call like this before.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 22:19
:-D
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:19
"reason": "COB: 5, Dev: 29, BGI: -4.14, Target: 95; Eventual BG 78<90, but Delta +3 > Exp. Delta -4.2; setting current basal of 2 as temp”,
that was from 45 mins before
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 22:19
@CrushingT1D the key part there is eventual BG 103 > 100
so it thinks you already have enough IOB to get you down to 103
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:19
yeah but the problem is i am never getting there. should that be showing up in auto sens?
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:20
Her words by the way, "I've never had and amazing call like this before"
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 22:20
good job @JaysonEwer :)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:20
still on the call
:-D
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:20
ask her to send you 100 old 523/723’s with the right firmware :)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:21
boom
will do
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:21
lol
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:21
donate one to me
her words
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 22:21
@CrushingT1D what do you think is going on that is preventing your body from dropping as much as it should from the IOB?
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:22
no idea. this seems to happen a lot. afternoons and overnight. it just flatlines at a range above what i want.
i was thinking auto sens might catch it.
not sure if there is anything logged to see what is going on there.
i’ve been doing a ton of 1 unit corrections as of late. which usually fixes it. holding off right now to see if i can figure it out
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 22:24
Your baseline basals also might need adjusting then. You should also look at NS reports to get an idea for where you're riding
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:25
"WE actually dismantle each returned device and go through a 3 series test and rebuild them if the components pass. "
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 22:25
do you find yourself riding high for entire days, or for the same few hours each day, or ?
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:25
I asked about getting old hardware and she said she would talk to her manager about possibly getting me some. :-D
She gave me her direct extension and encouraged me to call back to check the SVN number she captured my requests using.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:26
i mostly notice it when i am in a spot where no COB. otherwise too much going on to know. i have adjusted my baseline basals a few times (1-2 weeks ago)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 22:26
heh, that will get nixed as soon as their Legal/Regulatory folks find out, but it's cool that she's asking. :)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 22:26
Nice :) @JaysonEwer
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:26
She will also be calling me back tomorrow after checking with her manager to see if I can get a copy of the ideas she captured in the SVN "Interaction History"
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:27
but the auto sens would see that it was not working as intended right? this is where i struggle. i dont have a good set of reports to figure out what happened 2 weeks ago
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:27
I'd honestly like to know what all she captured. :-D
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:27
and i forget now
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 22:27
autosens is looking at 24h averages
so if you get sick and start running resistant for 8h+ it will start to adjust for that
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 22:27
@CrushingT1D have you looked at NS reports?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 22:28
but if it's just that your afternoon basals are off, it can't respond fast enough to fix that
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:28
so i adjusted my basal down from 3:30-6:30pm because of drops late last week. but that has not hit yet
since its 330 now
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 22:28
no COB is basically what you need for good basal testing, so...
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:28
I told her I would purchase a 150$ remote to use as the bidirectional communcation channel, but why when I 've already spent the money on the connect uploader translater device that seems to have all teh communcation channels already in place.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:28
to be honest i thought the reports were broken until this morning when i sat and let the report take 60 seconds to load. i had never waited that long, but tried after i saw @jasoncalabrese post a report this am
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 22:29
We just pulled a month of data via NS reports to see if I wanted to tweak my targets slightly
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:29
But also asked her to ask the developers why they don't already have that functionality built into the connect app/uploader
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 22:29
It takes a while to load,so you should try again and give it a good long while
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:29
what report do you find most useful for that?
i’ve been using Glooko reports which are pretty solid.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 22:30
I'd have to go look at them all again
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:30
but they only work for BG
ok thats fine, i can play with them
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 22:30
Looking at just BG would be fine for this
Just remember you'd want to tweak basals maybe an hour or so before you start riding high. But use the look back to see when your average high flat times are
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:32
yeah, that is what i do
i still think oref should be doing more to try to correct me. i think it’s gotta be impacted by auto sens not working or DIA value used or something
i figure if i use a shorter DIA then it would inherently be more aggressive in the short term (could cause issues later of course)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 22:36
I think looking at baseline basals is something I'd tweak first.
Especially if there are known times
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:36
yeah. i am not sold on that yet.
i’ve made more basal adjustments in the last 4 weeks then the previous 4 years :) they feel pretty good, but can still do some tweaks.
remember, my BG is not rising
it’s just not falling
yesterday same timeframe actually it did not rise and i had openaps offline
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 22:38
But if it's still elevated, you need more insulin as a baseline
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:38
@bewest I did ask for functional specifications on the communication protocols, but I think she laughed it off.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:40
yeah, but it could be related to food. I ate what i thought was a zero carb lunch and entered it as a small 5 carb meal. i guess maybe meal assist is not working or something
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:47
She definitely was not yawning and twirling her hair as she "captured" my concnerns. She encouraged me to reach out to one of their social media "Connect with a Minimed Ambassador" option. She also said they have regular town hall meeting where she would like to share some of the good ideas I shared with her on the call. I realize she is a "lower level" eager new employee and won't have a ton of pull in the organization, but the fact that she even knew how to capture a customers wish list of requests to open an Interaction HIstory and submit it to the Engineering/Development team made me feel pretty good. Plus the fact that she was invigorated by the whole process and was happy to call me back to provide me with an update as to what she learns from her supervisor and gave me her direct extension and encouraged me to call back to chat again, was really cool. Her empathy toward me, a person that lives with a long standing illness that her company helps me manage was sincere and real. She also mentioned that she got to wear a pump and Enlite sensor for 6 days during her training and had an inkling of what "WE" go through, but also fully understood that she didn't fully understand some of the challenges. She also commiserated with me on the AWEFUL Enlight sensor insertion process that I've only done twice, but know I don't really care to do again. :-D I felt like most of my concerns were at least heard, and we'll see if anything comes from this interaction. :-D
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 22:48
nice
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:48
auto-sens just has me at “1” so i thinks my sensitivity is in line. not so sure i agree.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 22:49
wonder how to advise people that are kind of hovering or might be willing to call but don't know how to navigate the call
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:49
What I found somewhat interesting was that she tied my requests directly to my Minimed Connect Serial Number ID. I guess it makes sense, but it almost sounded like she might be able to enable a feature for me specifically. :-D
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 22:49
like how to scale it out
ah, that's kind of interesting
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:50
So the person i spoke with told me there is a Minimed “Pro” reporting suite that is different than the regular one for customers.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:50
It may just be a tracking mechanism
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:50
and she said it was better and they were considering turning it on for everyone instead of limited it to doctors or whoever has access
sorry i did not think to tell you that when you were on
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:51
oh, yeah, like something an Endocrinology Practitioner would use to dump our data into their systems.
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 22:51
carelink pro is a windows program
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:51
is that what you thought she was talking about ben?
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:52
yeah, I also shared with her that I was in the process of trying to log into my Carelink Personal account on my Chromebook and it is not supported. :-P
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 22:52
I've seen carelink pro, it generates pdf reports on windows machine
it's not a cloud app, it just works on eg a clinic windows laptop
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:52
windows machine. lol
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:52
yeah, NS KICKS its A$$, I'm pretty sure!!
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 22:53
the pdf reports are pretty thorough, I guess, it's like a 40 page print out and has some graphs carelink (personal) does not
but its kind of an example on how vendors like to frame discussion in terms of features
"if you want easy to understand graphs, use our carelink pro because it has better graphs"
vendors love to do that
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:54
Mary is in CST, and her supervisor is Jamie, who is also a pumper, uses 530-G with Enlite and MM Connect, I won't give you Mary's direct extension, but if you run into her, you might say you've heard good things about her treatment of customers. :-)
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 22:55
:-)
as you observed, they keep notes on you...
I have notes on me ;-)
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:55
i’d pay to see those notes
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:55
I"m not sure it would be helpful to provide the SVN/Ref# of my Interaction History, but when I learn what all she captured, I'll ask if its appropriate to share that with others to PILE ON! :-D
Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 22:56
well, it's like hearing a coin drop out of their pocket and onto the floor
created tickets that now have to be discussed/processed
curious how long you needed to be on the phone
and if someone wanted to try doing it in less time how you might advise them
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 22:58
@bewest It sounds like most of your interactions have been to ask about Carelink specifically, but its apparent they are excited about and pushing their MM Connect contraption. Perhaps taking that angle would be helpful. It seems to me like they basically have 98% of the functionality to use the Phone>Connect>Pump>Sensor to close the loop, obviously they do, but I'm ok with PUSHING THEM TOWARD making it happen by providing feedback etc.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 22:59
is BGI the number of points a BG should change in 5 min?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 23:01
Yeah, from insulin activity.
Are you on AMA branch? It projects deviations out 30m instead of 15...
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:02
Honestly, my interaction with her was 1 hr and 11 mintues. She was NOT eager to hang up, thats for sure. I actually got interrupted and had to hang up my call abruptly, because my wife thought our 20month old was choking...SHE FINE...so I called back to ask for Mike the guy that was just starting to walk me through how the connect device communicates with the pump using RF and then reports back to the phone using BLE, he used the term translator. Perhaps we can just turn it upside down to translate the other way. ;-) From the phone to the pump. That's when I asked for the bidirectional communication, rather than just the uni-directional that it currently uses.
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 23:03
I am on AMA yes
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:03
@bewest is anyone trying to RE the connect that you are aware of?
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 23:04
i just wanted to make sure i understood the number.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 23:04
I believe the Connect uses the same protocol as decocare for its nightly pulls.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:05
connect is talking to the pump every 5 minutes also
and then reports back to the phone
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 23:05
And the every 5m is the MySentry protocol that @ps2 RE'd with the RileyLink.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:05
ah
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 23:06
By the way: anyone had a chance to look at 114? If no specific feedback but no major objections to getting into dev, please give it a thumbs up. Or otherwise note your objections
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:07
@scottleibrand I was about to type earlier that I didn't have to do anything with "MySentry", but I guess that's the name of the protocol, theres no configuration with that, right, @scottleibrand ?
When I was playing with Connect App>Uploader/translater>530G, that is, back in December before I got my OpenAps rig operational.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 23:09
Yeah, MySentry was just the first product to use those broadcasts.
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:09
got it
Sorry @danamlewis do you have the direct link to the 114 handy?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 23:12
Nope but go to openaps/docs and click pull requests :)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:12
:-D
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 23:12
On github I mean
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 23:12
openaps/docs#114
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 23:12
Or ^
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Mar 31 2016 23:12
I just did what Dana suggested. :-p
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 23:13
As you always should ;)
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:13
:-D
Yes Ma'am, 'Sir
So, i'm trying to do this...perhaps, i'm that CHALLENGED...but when I go to github and then to openaps
and then to doc
I don't see a 114
got it
dana-dev
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 23:16
Do you look at pull request? It's in the top tabs
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:16
yeah, there are too many options for navigation in github. :-/
I initially went to brange dev and looked at the spring cleaning but didn't see 114, my bad.
I just need to spend more time in here
hence the request for the direct link. :-/ thank you Scott and Dana.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 23:18
:)
Looking forward to the feedback!
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:23
Where was the link to generate the PDF view. I find the RTD's view a bit cumbersome and I have to keep LOOKING for where the next link is. I would like to be able to navigate with just my arrow keys if possible. <Trying not to be WHINEY>
:-D
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Mar 31 2016 23:25
The pdf link would be within the RTD in the bottom right menu thing that you can open up to switch branches
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:26
thanks, I knew I had seen it a day or so ago.
I assume the "Release 0.0.0" when generating the PDF view will be updated dynamically to the correct version, is that a safe assumption? https://media.readthedocs.org/pdf/openaps/dana-dev/openaps.pdf
garykidd
@garykidd
Mar 31 2016 23:31
any idea why i might be getting this error---was just working too.....
v

Error 403 - This web app is stopped.

The web app you have attempted to reach is currently stopped and does not accept any requests. Please try to reload the page or visit it again soon.

If you are the web app administrator, please find the common 403 error scenarios and resolution here. For further troubleshooting tools and recommendations, please visit Azure Portal.

Ben West
@bewest
Mar 31 2016 23:39
on heroku?
oh on azure
garykidd
@garykidd
Mar 31 2016 23:39
right ..the latter
@bewest what's shakin man?
garykidd
@garykidd
Mar 31 2016 23:45
tried to redeploy---thats not working either
Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 23:51
does the log say the deploy worked?
garykidd
@garykidd
Mar 31 2016 23:52
nope....
Failed to set up deployment source for web app projectfeedback, using GitHub. Repository 'UpdateSiteSourceControl' operation failed with System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (403) Forbidden.
at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.EndGetResponse(IAsyncResult asyncResult)
at System.Threading.Tasks.TaskFactory1.FromAsyncCoreLogic(IAsyncResult iar, Func2 endFunction, Action1 endAction, Task1 promise, Boolean requiresSynchronization)
--- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown ---
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.ThrowForNonSuccess(Task task)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task)
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Jim is CrushingT1D
@CrushingT1D
Mar 31 2016 23:54
it seems like it is having trouble getting the current source code from github
maybe check your connection setup in the portal or reset it?
it’s been awhile since i’ve used azure so dont remember exactly how to do that
garykidd
@garykidd
Mar 31 2016 23:55
thats kinda what i figured but i tried re-entering everything...to no avail...
JaysonEwer
@JaysonEwer
Mar 31 2016 23:56
SMH...i'm sure its me...But any time I try to do anything in Github, I get completely turned around...I'm reading the documents...first in the pdf view so it flows better and I can scroll through rather than having to click, click, click...so I find my first MINOR edit that I'd like to add a PR for, simple modification of Logs to Log, silly typo...so I then go to my previous tab where I have the RTD view open and make sure I'm certain of the location of the line needing to be modified....then I find and click the hyperlinked location of the "Making your first PR (pull request)¶" page and read through it and learn that I need to fork the openaps/docs repo. I do that and find myself looking at "JaysonEwer\docs forked from Openaps\docs" Got it...wooohoo, making progress....Then I try to find the 114 branch....But, its not there, because I forked the main and dev branches of docs, not the 114 branch of the docs. OF COURSE I SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THAT. DOH!!....So I go back find myself at the 114 location and select fork again to be brought back to my JaysonEwer\docs fork but still i'm unable to find 114, not under dev, not anywhere.....So I go back to the following URL: openaps/docs#114 and look for a way to fork it so I can modify it to contribute, but Im beginning to wonder if I"m just STUPID!! :facepunch: Then Jayson cries for help? HOW DO I GET A FORK OF DANA-DEV to provide some seriously meaningful feadback? :-D :-D I"m having fun, not upset, but do feel like a :mouse: or som other silly rodent. :-P