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Jun 2016
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 00:14
okay... in Night Scout, how do I set the pump profile -- I see where to change the alerts, but not where to enter pump settings
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 00:17
Settings (3 bars in the top right area), then hit Profile Editor
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 00:32
I've opened the settings menu, but I don't see the profile editor button, is it something I have to enable?
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 00:34
Screen Shot 2016-06-09 at 8.32.52 PM.png
Does yours look different?
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 00:50
yeah, no profile editor option
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 00:57
at the bottom of the settings you can see your Nightscout version number; what is it?
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 00:59
version 0.9.0-beta3
it was the latest version on the dev branch
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:01
Does one need to be authenticated for it to show the “Profile Editor”?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 01:01
Probably
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 01:01
I authenticated it...
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 01:02
Refresh after authentication?
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:02
What happens if you just append /profile/index.html to the end of your NS URL?
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 01:04
comes up with the full URL... will add it in and see if it shows up when there is a profile loaded maybe?
thanks
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:09
Has anyone managed to move their loop from Pi to Edison in recent days? My loop gets though auto-sens calculations, but then fails for meal assist (which I have not setup). suggested.json says:
}root@wopr-e1:~/wopr-e1# cat enact/suggested.json [{"msg":"Optional feature Meal Assist enabled, but could not read required meal data.","file":"monitor/meal.json","error":{"errno":34,"code":"ENOENT","path":"monitor/meal.json","syscall":"open"}}] root@wopr-e1:~/wopr-e1#
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:12
How are you generating your monitor/meal.json?
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:13
[report "monitor/meal.json"] profile = settings/profile.json use = shell reporter = text clock = monitor/clock-zoned.json json_default = True pumphistory = monitor/pumphistory-zoned.json device = meal remainder =
Is the code view two backticks?
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:14
Three.
Does it spit out a file if you run the command manually?
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:14
The character that shares the tilde, right?
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:14
Here’s mine: openaps use meal shell settings/pumphistory-24h-zoned.json settings/profile.json monitor/clock-zoned.json monitor/auto-sens-glucose.json settings/basal_profile.json
That’s correct.
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 01:16
@Spazholio I was able to enter the whole profile, but still no option to view it -- data that I put into the profile was saved because when I use the url to go back to the profile/index.html it is still there...
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:17
You may have hit the limit of my NS knowledge. =/ Maybe @jasoncalabrese might have some clues, but I think he’s out and about right now.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:20
@Spazholio I'm still running the initial loop I made with the walkthrough. I'm planning to re-write it after I move onto the edison, but for now, I can barely remember how I got it working....
When I run you command, I get a valid output file. But I don't think I'm creating meal.json in my loop.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:22
Yeah, once I get openxshareble working, I’m gonna move to the edison as well. Not really looking forward to figuring out how the heck I did all of this.
Then again, I sorta am. =)
I invoke my monitor/meal.json right before my enact/suggested.json.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:23
So do I just need to make sure that file is created in my loop to keep it from failing on meal assist?
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:23
I believe so.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:29
I think that was it. Thanks @Spazholio! :clap:
It looks like auto-sens reported more insulin resistance. Is that because auto-sens knows that I just ate a meal?
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:31
It compares now to now-24h. So…maybe?
@scottleibrand would be WAY more qualified to answer that than I would, but I think that’s how it works.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:32
I can't believe that one file was screwing me up for so long....
So that means I just moved onto my new Edison! :)
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:32
Congrats!
Are you using NS exclusively for CGM data?
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 01:33
@thacherT1D , have you enabled any of the NS plug-ins, e.g. iob, basal, openaps? Not sure, but I think at least one of these needs to be enabled for NS page to show the Profile Editor button.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:33
Yes. I was using dexcom/USB on the pi, but a) I broke the receiver that way and b) using a receiver with the edison would double the size....
Or should I have said a) and 1).
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 01:35
@eluhrs which oref0 branch are you using?
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:41
@scottleibrand production, I think. I didn't specify anything else when I installed.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 01:47
ok, in master the autosens algorithm looks at all the deviations in the period covered by the provided glucose and pumphistory data, and figures out what % of the deviations are positive vs. negative.
if less than 30% of the deviations are negative, it registers that as resistance
openaps/oref0#58
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:48
Oh, so if I have 2 days in my monitor/glucose.json then it’ll use that to make the determination?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 01:50
if you pass a 2-day monitor/glucose.json to the autosens report, ya
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 01:50
Is AMA similar just more aggressive?
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 01:50
I’m passing 2 days, as well as duplicate data. Still need to clean that up. =)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 02:18
@eluhrs partially, but it also excludes large deviations that are most likely caused by carb absorption
we still need to do openaps/oref0#98 before I'll be completely happy with that: there are some situations where it seems to be false-positively detecting resistance when carb absorption is slow.
Eric Luhrs
@eluhrs
Jun 10 2016 02:21
@scottleibrand Is carb absorption used in master or just AMA?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 02:23
only AMA
the variable exists in master, but it's display-only, and calculated using a 30g/hr constant carb absorption
aabramowicz
@aabramowicz
Jun 10 2016 02:39
ok...finally found a pump in Canada 722 with 2.4A ...that will work ?
GeoffWyche
@GeoffWyche
Jun 10 2016 02:52
I think so.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 02:53
:+1: @aabramowicz
aabramowicz
@aabramowicz
Jun 10 2016 03:02
awesome..I will pursue. My goal is done by Sept 1. Thanks Dana/Geoff
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Jun 10 2016 03:03
I bet you'll have something working by then, but you'll never be done...
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 03:03
True dat.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Jun 10 2016 03:03
Probably much sooner than then too
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:08
Would anyone who has flown in the US with an APS be willing to chat with me? Matt and I are flying to San Diego in a few weeks and I'm very nervous to take something so questionable (without exception, everyone who has seen it without knowing what it is has made a bomb comment) through an airport.
aabramowicz
@aabramowicz
Jun 10 2016 03:08
Thanks Jason/Scott. Ya I know...by done I mean something working. Baby steps. Jason, you got me past my last hurdle at 1:30 am on NightScout in April/May 2014....never looked back. Thank you. Extremely excited to start this project.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 03:09
@PazolesBrooke_twitter https://github.com/openaps/docs/blob/master/docs/docs/walkthrough/phase-6/Usability-considerations.md <— look at the top entry. Seems like @danamlewis has traveled with it quite a bit with no issues.
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:11
Oh that's great to read/know @Spazholio, thank you. I've had a hard time at the airport with my pump (forcing me to go through the scanner when I asked for a pat down, stuff like that) that I get nervous. Is the rig safe to go through all the scanners and whatnot? I assume so.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:12
@PazolesBrooke_twitter yes the rig is safe through scanners
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 03:12
I think so. I mean, it’s basically an ultra-tiny computer, just like a laptop. So it should be safe.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:12
I always put Dexcom receiver and all pancreas stuff in my bag and send through X-ray.
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:12
Great. Thanks @danamlewis!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:12
With pre check, my pump never alerts metal detector so if tucked under my shirt I just walk theough
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:13
Tandem specifically says to not let your pump go through the body scanner, which is why I always try (sometimes unsuccessfully) to get a pat down.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:13
If flagged for random go through scanner, I opt out and get pat down. When asked about sensitive areas, mention and point out pump, pump site, CGM sensor site
You always can opt out
Sometimes you have to say I opt out, yes I understand that means pat down, but I opt out
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:13
I know I can, but TSA people can be pushy and mean.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:13
Worst case you stand there for 5 min
But you have to stand up for yourself. And just don't go through the scanner, ever, if that's not what you want.
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:14
Yeah. I should have stuck up for myself more when it happened. The guy was really horrible to me. I lost my nerve and just went through the scanner. I complained later.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 03:14
I despise the scanner, but I despise the thought of missing my flight even more. I don’t travel well.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:14
Yea. It's tough in those situations.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Jun 10 2016 03:14
@aabramowicz looking forward to seeing the mini rigs you'll build to match the mini xdrips
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 03:14
@PazolesBrooke_twitter unlike certain school officials in Texas, the TSA knows the difference between a clock and a bomb.
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:14
@scottleibrand ha!!!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:15
But seriously, I have flown >100 times with pancreas. Never been an issue, even if pat down, even if they go through my bag randomly. Small electronics. No big deal.
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:15
That's really reassuring. Thanks guys.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:15
:+1:
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:15
(not that I like the patdowns either. Sometimes I feel like I need a pregnancy test afterwards)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 03:15
I highly recommend pre-check.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 03:16
Just curious @danamlewis - has anyone asked you what it was, and if so, what did you say? I mean, I can see how “it’s my pancreas” would just get you odd looks.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 03:16
Even if you only fly occasionally, it's well worth not having to worry about lines or scanners or pat-downs.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 03:16
“Anyone” meaning “TSA” specifically.
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:16
Matt has pre-check, I gotta get on it too.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:17
No one has ever asked. Early on, I volunteered " that's my pancreas" and explained. Guy said cool, and that was that. Occasionally someone will say "you have a lot of electronics".
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 03:18
That’s surprising, yet reassuring. I’d suck as a TSA agent. I’d be all inquisitive.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:19
If pat down, and they see my pump, they say "you must do this all the time" and I say yes. Pumps are common to them so no big deal.
But pre check tsa also seems to be a bit more with it compared to regular line tsa, IMO
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 03:20
Yeah, one guy was horrified when I took it off. “NO NO NO NO you don’t have to!"
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:20
I have never taken my pump off in security for any reason
So hopefully that helps, and hopefully that usability page helps, but please Pr any additional info in that you think will help people
Alexandre Cossette
@alexk7
Jun 10 2016 03:22
I often do because there is metal in my pump clip and it's easier to disconnect than to take the pump out of the clip...
aabramowicz
@aabramowicz
Jun 10 2016 03:30
@jasoncalabrese Jason, I'm super interested in what you have built with the Edison. Not sure if that is the norm now. That is so up my street - portable....but again...baby steps. I have so much to learn not being a developer....but your son holding two rigs in that picture is all the inspiration I need....
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:34
:+1: most people do Pi, then move to Edison. Then Pi becomes the bedside/stay at home rig :)
aabramowicz
@aabramowicz
Jun 10 2016 03:47
That's my plan....I'm just chomping at the bit to get started. This is exactly the project that I should be doing (and maybe should have started months ago). I guess I'll have 500 question but I see that everyone has been super awesome in helping...I just hope I'm not getting myself in too deep. TIA.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 03:48
:+1: :)
Brooke Pazoles
@PazolesBrooke_twitter
Jun 10 2016 03:54
Thanks @danamlewis - I will definitely pr if I run into anything besides what you've already said!
Martin Haeberli
@mhaeberli
Jun 10 2016 04:27
can someone please remind me of the correct format for the nightscout URL within RileyLink iOS app? do I include https:// at the beginning and / or “/“ at the end?
ryanchen26
@ryanchen26
Jun 10 2016 04:33
Just installed the flash programmer to flash the hex to the TI C1111. My CC Debugger light is not turning green.
The TI stick has it's little green light, but it's not showing up in the Flash Programmer...where I was going to flash the hex file.
ryanchen26
@ryanchen26
Jun 10 2016 04:40
maybe I got a dud.
Jason Calabrese
@jasoncalabrese
Jun 10 2016 04:47
@mhaeberli I think it wants the https and domain name, but no path
ryanchen26
@ryanchen26
Jun 10 2016 05:47
Despite the fact that I can see CC Debugger and CC1111 USB dongle in the windows Device Manager under Cebal controlled devices, SmartRF Flash Programmer doesn't recognize it. So no sweet transceiver action tonight.
Martin Haeberli
@mhaeberli
Jun 10 2016 05:50
@jasoncalabrese thx - how do I force it to upload? I was connected via Xcode and I saw one failed attempt w an empty URL - - before I set the URL; then no more attempts...
Also, more generally, the Nightscout URL and the API secret fields seemed to default to capital letters...
Milos Kozak
@MilosKozak
Jun 10 2016 06:13
@Spazholio put profile in your enable
Colin Lennon
@colinlennon
Jun 10 2016 10:38
Hey @ryanchen26 , it's been a while since I flashed my TI sticks, but if I remember correctly, you might need to supply power to the stick via the USB port. Try plugging the USB port into a powered hub
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:17
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Hello everybody! I have a question about something I've been seeing. In the past, the system has been rather good at keeping me within the ranges I specified, but for the last week it hasn't. To clarify, I was very sick Monday, but it's been tapering off the rest of the week, so that may have something to do with it. I've upgrade OpenAPS to 0.1.5, I've enabled auto-sens and meal-assist (not AMA), and still having issues. It seems to be temping me enough to level off an incline, but not giving me enough to go back down to the normal range. Could this just be due to sickness? I'm worried there's something set incorrectly here.
This is the reasoning that it gives, so I think it thinks that I'll be going back to normal, but for about the entire week, I haven't been. I just gave myself a correction, because I know what it thinks isn't going to happen. "BG: 174, Meal assist: 30g, 4U, bolus snooze: eventual BG range 84-130, temp 0.75 ~ req 0.75U/hr. Meal Assist: On: 11%, 11%, Carbs: 30 Boluses: 4 ISF: 40, Target: 104 Deviation: 20 BGI: -5.38 IOB: 3.10U, Basal IOB 1.35U, Bolus Snooze 0.99U"
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 13:20
Sounds like AMA would help a lot.
What is actually going to happen in that situation?
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:20
What does it do differently that would help, compared to what I'm doing now?
In this situation, it'll probably go higher and not be corrected, unless I do it myself.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 13:21
It high-temps much more aggressively after carbs, whereas regular meal assist will wait until it sees a rise if you've already fully bolused for them.
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:21
A week ago, it was much more aggressive in bringing me back down, as long as it was over 2 hours after a meal (if I recall, it was waiting for the bolus to take effect before making decisions?)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 13:22
Is it no longer doing that? Or is that no longer soon enough?
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:22
It's really no longer doing that at all. It'll just sit at 200 or more, and stay there.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 13:23
What does it say for a reason when you think it should be high temping and it's not?
(In the OpenAPS pill)
you can scroll NS back to see what it was thinking.
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:24
hmmm... lemme try
Every situation I'm looking at shows that there's a temp that's higher, it thinks it's doing the right thing, but it never actually goes down... which is why I thought perhaps the auto-sens would have helped.
Actually, when scrolling back NS, it doesn't look like the OpenAPS pill tooltip is changing for the previous reasoning.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 13:27
Do you have advanced device status enabled in NS?
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:28
I believe so... lemme SSH In and check.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 13:28
you can also look at the logs over ssh if NS isn't showing it.
Does autosens detect sensitivity and adjust the ISF?
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:30
It does, but not all the time. If it says that it's within range, it seems to stay at whatever I set it to. Although since I got it working, it's been saying that there's a lot of insulin resistance.
I did have advanced device status on in the past, but I upgraded to beta3, and forgot to do it on that one. Just turned it on.
Oooh, that's much better, thanks. :-)
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:36
I think the general take away is that it thinks it's going to go back to normal, but it doesn't. What would that point to, sensitivity being wrong?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 13:39
The autosens detection in AMA is also more sensitive (has a narrower "normal" range thanks to excluding some outliers).
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 13:41
I have an odd issue with NS and not displaying some data. In NS, I have a gap showing from 2:02am to 3:21am this morning. And some others, but that's the largest. It appears my NS died, so when I woke up, I restarted it. I ran a couple commands to fill in gaps that @bewest gave to me a while back, and if filled in some of the gaps. This large one, however, isn't getting filled in. Except...it is. I don't see the dots, but in my raw-ns/ns-glucose.zoned.json file, the entries are clearly there. Any idea how to fix that?
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:42
I guess that's the next project for me then... getting AMA working. I was going to wait for it to be merged into master before diving in, but it sounds like you think it's already production worthy. I'll give it a try and see what happens. Thanks, Scott. And thank you to everybody doing this project!
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 13:54
We're using it. It's not perfect, but for people not happy because the algorithm in master isn't aggressive enough, it's almost certainly better if you're willing to plow through the annoyances of getting it set up.
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 13:58
Are there instructions (even preliminary) for converting to AMA? Google couldn't find it, or my Google-fu must be weak.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:12
@daveewall another Q what are your targets set to?
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:12
90-120.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:13
Check out the AMA-docs branch. We need someone to finish fixing those and pr into main docs.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 14:13
@scottleibrand Any thoughts on why NS wouldn't visualize data that the JSON reports (pulled from NS itself) have? If not, is there someone more appropriate to direct that question to?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:13
That also might contribute. That's a really wide range.
You might think about a more narrow range or 100-110 110-120
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:13
But why would that allow the system to let the levels sit at 170 hours later, for instance?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:14
Because you're resistant but you theoretically have enough iob to get you to 119
And it's only going to high temp more if your eventual went to 121
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:14
That's what I was thinking... so wouldn't that point to sensitivity fixing the issue?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:14
Whereas you seem to want to be lower. So definitely make your target range more concise. 10 points is pretty standard
No your targets impact that a lot too
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:14
If the sensitivity was lower, then it would realize that there's not enough IOB.
So what's good... 100-110?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:15
So fix your targets and then AMA will also help even more but fixing your targets will help you right now
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:15
I'll definitely give that a try right now.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:15
Yea. Or 100-100 if you're feeling ambitious but I would first try 100-110 and get a feel for how that changes things first
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 14:15
I've had the same situation, @daveewall. Wondering why this magical tech box next to me didn't realize that a few hours at 150 isn't anywhere near my targets and why isn't it fixing it? =)
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:16
Oh good... I'm not the only one then. I thought it was just my setup, or me just being sick that's throwing it off for some reason.
I just changed the ranges to 100-110... we'll see what happens.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:17
Sick impacts it but targets too.
And at the end of the day...it's not perfect. We still have diabetes. So sometimes we'll be 150 or whatever.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 14:17
I think sometimes I expect this device to react more like I - a human - would. After 2 hours of no movement, of COURSE I'm going to throw some more insulin into me - what I've been doing isn't working, so let's ramp it up a bit. It's taken a bit of re-training of my thought process.
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:17
Does the auto-sens only change the ISF if it goes beyond a certain percentage of normalcy?
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 14:18
@danamlewis TRUTH
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:18
@Spazholio exactly
@daveewall yes.
You might want to go read the issue where we first started detailing how auto sens would work for more details
Possibly 58 I think
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:20
I remember seeing Scott say something about that. When I started implementing it, I thought it would figure out what the sensitivity is regardless of it being out of normalcy, which I was interested in, because the number I have in my head was always just based on feel, and I've never really changed my thoughts on it for the last 20 years, until this project.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:21
Yea. Over time it might give you some ideas of how you might want to change your base sensitivity, but we haven't yet created tool to recommend a sensitivity number.
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Jun 10 2016 14:23
the aggressive-ness is still capped by your current basal rate * 3 I believe and you might have the max IOB as a factor thrown in there, so even if your ISF changes dynamically, you could get in an up-drift situation where you won't be able to recover within an hour or so unless you bolus
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 14:24
I assume that basal*3 is hardcoded?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:25
3x max 4x current, actually
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:25
Like @Spazholio mentioned, it's more about seeing the number high for hours, not necessarily expecting it to go to normal immediately. I end up questioning why it hasn't done more to bring me to normal after 3 hours of 180, and it not going anywhere.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:26
Share some logs and we can help you step through its decision making and look at where you might want to tweak some settings.
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:26
I did up my max basal in the pump, as well as the max_iob in the system to see how it would react, and it started doing more, but still had the end effect of not going back to normal even though it was high... but this was when I was drastically sick, and my body was shooting up for no reason.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:26
But also remember at some point knowing what you the human know (i.e. Sick and resistant) you still might want to also take manual action
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Jun 10 2016 14:26
hmmm... so it must be my max IOB that's holding back my situation. Don't think I've every reached 4x current, certainly not 3x max
Dave Ewall
@daveewall
Jun 10 2016 14:26
What logs would you want to see, and how would I get them? From NS?
ryanchen26
@ryanchen26
Jun 10 2016 14:27
@ceben80 Thanks for the link. I updated the cc debugger firmware, plugged that into the PC, plugged the serial connection into the cc1111 debug pins (ground on 1), plugged the cc1111 into the computer, both debugger and cc1111 recognized in device manager (windows 10), red light on debugger persists despite reset button, green light on the cc1111. The cc1111 is never successfully listed in the flash programmer so pushing the hex is not possible. Since the protocol is relatively simple I figure I must have a defective unit.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 14:27
@danamlewis Any plans to make that user-customizable anytime in the future? I competely understand the concerns that led to that being put in place, but I wouldn't mind being able to possibly up that number.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:28
@daveewall yea you can scroll back in NS to see the reasoning or you can dig deep in the logs . NS like your earlier paste is good enough though.
Colin Lennon
@colinlennon
Jun 10 2016 14:28
@ryanchen26 I could be wrong, as I used my Raspberry Pi to flash TI sticks, but I don't think there should be any need to plug the TI stick into the computer
and a USB port won't provide much power
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 14:29
@Spazholio yes, possibly. Like an overrided preferences.json. (If you want to go ahead and write that, go for it)
Colin Lennon
@colinlennon
Jun 10 2016 14:29
I think it might be worth trying to hook the cc1111's USB port up to a power source - USB hub or charger
It didn't work for me initially, then after connecting the stick to a USB charger, it did
I'll be able to test this out again this weekend, as I'm planning to flash them again with the newest subg_rfspy firmware. I can test out doing it from a PC and get back to you
C-Ville
@C-Ville
Jun 10 2016 14:33
I just realized that my APS pill shows setting "neutral temp basal"...; but the temp it is setting is higher than the basal that is scheduled for that time. I do not mind that my AP changes the basal, but I am surprised that it says neutral although it is actually bumping up the basal from what I would have without the AP running
Colin Lennon
@colinlennon
Jun 10 2016 14:34
@C-Ville I've seen that... I think it means neutral prior to the auto-sens adjustment being applied
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 14:34
@ryanchen26 Just to add a data point here for you, I have never been able to get the CC debugger to work under Windows. I found the linux cc-tool to work better for me. Much simpler (to my mind) too.
ryanchen26
@ryanchen26
Jun 10 2016 14:35
@colinlennon I would definitely appreciate any feedback or observations. I may just put in the order for a replacement parts regardless. @Spazholio never on windows? That's disturbing.
Colin Lennon
@colinlennon
Jun 10 2016 14:35
@ryanchen26 Sure, I'll let you know what I find... probably tomorrow :+1:
C-Ville
@C-Ville
Jun 10 2016 14:36
@colinlennon thanks, I do not have autosense activated yet, so I was not aware of the implications to the pill
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 14:37
@ryanchen26 I shouldn't say NEVER on Windows. I booted up Windows, the system seemed WAY more complicated than telling a command-line tool, "Hey, run this file" so that's the option I went with.
ryanchen26
@ryanchen26
Jun 10 2016 14:40
@Spazholio I know TI hardware generally has a good reputation, software...not so much.
Dan Piessens
@dpiessens
Jun 10 2016 14:41
@Spazholio you comment earlier about NS not visualizing something... what was it not showing?
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 14:41
I spend 90% of my day on the command-line. I'm WAY more comfortable there, so I just went with what I knew.
@dpiessens It's not showing about 1 hour and 20 minutes of share readings. However, both the share and NS logs indicate the data is there. It's just that the dots don't show.
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 14:44
Striking out finding a pump, nobody from MedWow seems to be responding to my buying requests, on facebook, I tried the Omnipod Dexcom (because those people don't want to go back to their old medtronics, but the firmware seems to be 2.5A for most of them. Any other success stories....
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 14:44
Have you tried Craigslist?
@dpiessens I can message you my NS URL if it helps.
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Jun 10 2016 15:01
Didn't know if everyone else knew or not... Mark Wilson OpenAPS presentation today at 12:30 PDT, should be able to stream it at the CGM in the Cloud group on facebook or at https://www.facebook.com/NightscoutFoundation/ - Excited!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 15:02
:+1:
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 15:02
No, will look thanks.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 15:03
A little birdy gave him data so everyone here is represented in his chart of openAPS user growth! (Still at (n=1)*81!)
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 15:03
Oh geeze its been a long time since I was on Craigslist, do I have to go region by region?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 15:04
No you can do an all city search
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 15:04
For me, I started locally, then just sorta spiralled out until I found some hits. You can also just google for "craigslist medtronic" and see what comes back, and go from there.
Dan Piessens
@dpiessens
Jun 10 2016 15:06
@Spazholio sure private message me the link and I can take a look
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 16:02
@ryanchen26 have you tried to turn the ribbon cable around on the debug port of the TI stick? I recently fleshed a TI stick (from RPI not from Windows), and I had red (pin 1) on the ribbon cable facing out - away from the USB side of the TI stick.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 16:12
@ryanchen26 You may check out @jmatheson’s video on it. I’ve not done it myself, but he talks about what @dm61 is mentioning. Flipping the cables or what not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8_n-HxCDuw
Matthias
@ceben80
Jun 10 2016 16:14
@ryanchen26 @dm61 yes red pin 1, works for me today
Jason Wittmer
@jbwittmer
Jun 10 2016 16:19
So I'm still stuck at getting the Nightscout upload to work correctly with appropriate timezones, but I see there's a new method to try so I'm going to do that tonight when my son is sitting in one place long enough. But just to complicate it, another question: for now he's going to continue to use his newer 523 pump during the day and switch to the 722 for overnight looping. I would like to download the pump history from his 523 and upload to nightscout just as we make the switch, and then have subsequent uploads from the 722. Obviously I'll have to set up his 523 as a separate device and download a pumphistory523.json (or some such version). Then write a separate bash command (i think that's the right term?) to upload Nightscout once I get that mess worked out. Then subsequent upload commands can reference the 722. Am I missing something or will that work out. I realize that it won't ultimately affect the ability of the 722 to loop either way but I'd like to have the ability to visualize a full 24 hours of treatment data. Thanks.
Tia Ghose
@tiaghose_twitter
Jun 10 2016 16:24
hi folks.
i'm looking to build an APS with the TI USB and Edison stick. I'm wondering where people bought those items, if anyone has rigged theirs up that way?
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 16:32
@jbwittmer you may look at Ben's notes at openaps/docs#129
Jason Wittmer
@jbwittmer
Jun 10 2016 16:34
@dm61 Thank you very much. I'll study.
Lynne Butts
@flutelynne_twitter
Jun 10 2016 16:35
@MilosKozak what does "profile" in the ENABLE part of the NS settings do?
Milos Kozak
@MilosKozak
Jun 10 2016 16:37
shows the button to access profile
Lynne Butts
@flutelynne_twitter
Jun 10 2016 16:38
Thanks. I think that I already have that if I click on the three dashes at the top right.
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 16:42
Yeah all of Indiana came up dry...but I did see some in the nationwide search, will need to adjust the project budget I guess, thanks.
Its a bummer everytime the Omnipod PDM fails, they send me a new one and extend the warranty.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 16:57
@shgrady weird, that’s not what happened to me
I had my PDM stop keeping the time (internal battery died) and I was out of warranty
they replaced it as a courtesy for free, but told me it wasn’t covered under warranty and advised me to get another new PDM via insurance, which I did
Aaaaand at that exact time I also started using OpenAPS, so now I have a brand new PDM and 3months of pods that I don’t want to use
and I paid cash for a set of quickset and reservoir infusion sets box of 10 each
because if I tried to submit that through insurance it would be a) too soon for reorder and b) duplication of coverage and they would totally deny it
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 16:59
oh, you mean that yours was out of warranty when it happened, mine was still in the warranty, and they extended it when they gave me a new pump.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 17:00
ah, that must’ve been the difference
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 17:00
I got someone to trade me pods for reservoirs and sets
Lynne Butts
@flutelynne_twitter
Jun 10 2016 17:00
@loudestnoise Same here. I paid cash for reservoirs and infusion sets. Waiting to get approval from insurance to get from a new supplier in July.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 17:00
That’s what I WANT!
how’d you make that happen @shgrady ?
I have at least 6 months of pods new in box
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 17:02
I found her on Facebook, she was super sweet, her pump had 2.5A firmware. When we found out, I asked her if she was short on pods, she was.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 17:02
CGM in the Cloud?
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 17:03
no, Omnipod and Dexcom, which is where I was looking for pumps, those people love their omnipods, seem to have tubed stuff hanging around.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 17:04
Yeah, as I’m sure there are lots of people who switch from MedT to Omni
loudestnoise @loudestnoise starts looking for people to trade with on FB
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 17:04
I did the same back in 2013
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 17:05
Yeah, but I only got the two responses, hers wrong firmware, the guy has not found his yet in his house to even know the model.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 17:06
Yeah, I hope you find one. I am thinking I should try and find a backup pump. My wife is afraid I’ll go full time OpenAPS and get insurance to cover supplies in a couple of months only to have the pump die
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 17:06
@logichammer had some leads on pumps
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 17:06
My old pump is a 512C I think, I went to lantus and MDI for several years, then when dexcom came out, I saw why my HbA1cs were not what I wanted and got an Omnipod when they came out.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 17:07
@logichammer if you want to post what you sent me as a gist or something and link it here I bet a few people could use it. :-)
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 17:08
I’ve setup a Google Alert to search houston.craigslist.org for the word “medtronic"
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 17:10
1k seems reasonable, but I just fought with my insurance company for almost 6 months before they realized they were breaking the law, they apparently had done so with all my fellow employees for the past 3 years (I only started here last year) so it may take a while for all those reprocessed claims to end up in some loose DM cash, felt pretty proud I got them to reprocess everybody's DME claims though.
ryanchen26
@ryanchen26
Jun 10 2016 17:28
@dm61 @loudestnoise Yeah, I'm definitely going to try flashing the TI Stick though the PI instead of windows tonight. Nice video.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 17:31
@tiaghose_twitter if no one else has answered, check the mmeowlink wiki for some links
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 17:54
Question about my current NS look:
Screenshot_20160610_135238.png
Why does the purple line not start until after the blue lines peter out?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 18:07
@Spazholio depending on the precise timing, they sometimes occur at the exact same time, which NS's D3 setup doesn't allow
if you want to dig into it and figure out how to get them properly offset, it should be fixable, but hasn't been a big priority yet
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 18:10
Yeah, not a worry. 3 mins after, it fixed itself.
Although, @dpiessens and I may have found an interesting bug. Somehow, my CGM returned 2 items with the exact same timestamp. Once of them had a valid sgv value, and the other had a value of -1. For all the times I saw that happen, I have no dots in NG. LIke, it's seeing the -1, using that, and then not looking at anything else with that timestamp. This coincided with my NS outage last night. Everything is fine in the Dexcom (no dupes) but NS is seeing two entries, and it's throwing things off.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 18:22
might want to engage in the nightscout/public channel on that
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 18:23
Will do, thanks.
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 18:35
@dm61 thanks! adding the rest of the ones worked -- wasn't sure because I didn't see them explicitly told to be added, I'm definitely still overwhelmed... taking notes to review/possibly add to documentation :)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 18:38
@Spazholio half our job that’s not our job is traffic control :)
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 18:41
another question... having trouble adding the ns-status device... even though I've used the script as written, my ns-status isn't coming up with all the listed fields (screen shots following)
here's what mine looks like
Screen Shot 2016-06-10 at 11.20.09 AM.png
and what documentation says the "ns-status" device should look like
Screen Shot 2016-06-10 at 11.20.44 AM.png
also, then how would I delete the ns-status2 device? I tried opening and editing the .ini file, opening it in a text editor, using vim on the pi... none of that worked
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 18:52
openaps device remove DEVICENAME ?
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 18:53
yup... literally just got that :)
openaps device remove ns-status2
so now I'm back to just the devices I need, but the ns-status one still isn't showing all the necessary fields... :/
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 18:55
are you using openaps/docs#129 to set it up?
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 19:00
@thacherT1D, I'd agree with @loudestnoise , you may want to make use of openaps/docs#129. (this has not been captured in the doc yet, but it makes NS integration simpler and easier to understand/follow)
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 19:03
I was not -- thanks!
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 19:04
so who's on point for integrating that into the docs? ;-)
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 19:09
@scottleibrand , one question regarding the doc of NS integration: treatments can be updated nicely - one just reads CGM and pump and sends update to NS, fine. However, status update requires oref0, way before oref0 is even mentioned in the doc. So, what should be in the doc at the NS integration step? Just treatments? Everything?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 19:11
what do you think makes the most sense? we wanted to make sure treatment uploaded happened before people got too deep into oref0 setup, and that oref0 status upload happened by the time someone is doing the open loop steps
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:13
I’m of the opinion Phase 1 should be moved later in the process, and it’s because of what you said @dm61. The Configuring & Uploading OpenAPS Status makes the assumption you’ve already been working inside your openaps directory and done openaps device add type stuff. Hence my PR in dev talking about that, which got merged into master
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 19:13
NS integration could be split into 2 parts: initially, upload just treatments. Then, after oref0 is introduced, add status update.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:13
^ that would work
but you still need to know how to add devices and stuff
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 19:14
Yes, even treatment update comes in too early now because at that point people have not even created an openaps instance
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 19:15
@dm61 @loudestnoise all of what you're saying makes sense to someone who is struggling through this right now :)
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 19:16
In other words, a very basic intro to openaps, including adding cgm and pump devices (currently Phase 2) should be done before any NS integration
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:16
:+1:
sounds like someone should do a PR ;)
or at least that’s what @scottleibrand and @danamlewis would say :laughing:
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 19:18
:)
Hasn't someone already PR-ed moving openaps intro before NS integration? That would be a good first step.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:21
doesn’t look like it. Here’s Phase 1 on the dev branch
I wonder if it almost might be appropriate to go with setting up openaps and dependencies in Phase 0
BigEdL
@BigEdL
Jun 10 2016 19:24
I am new to Openaps and Nightscout. I have been building my openaps implementation over the last two weeks. So I am at the stage where I am generating a suggested file and the suggestions are looking decent. However, when I run my status-upload into nightscout; I am only seeing the Openaps pill box; and IOB update. For some reason it will not put the trend data or the glucose reading on the right hand side. But it is showing when I hover over the openaps pill box. I was confused with the Nightscout documentation so I skipped and moved on to phase two. I was able to verify that my site is working using the nightscout uploader on my android phone. Doing so I was able to get both glucose and trend lines into my nightscout web site. Can you guys point me in the right direction?
GabeA23
@GabeA23
Jun 10 2016 19:25
Hey all. Very basic question. I just got my G5 bridge to nightscout set up. I am gathering the equipment for my openAPS rig, but I'm wondering how the Raspberry Pie or Intel Edison communicates with the CGM. Does it pull from nightscout? Does this mean it needs internet access 24/7?
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 19:26
@loudestnoise I think that would work. Conceptually, however, the step of introducing openaps, creating openaps instance, and adding cgm and pump, reports and aliases is very important, I think it should be a Phase on it's own (and should come before NS integration)
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:26
Phase 0.5 ;)
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:27
@GabeA23 Answering because I know so little, and this one I think I got
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 19:27
Phase THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, DO NOT SKIP :smile:
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:27
Yes, it needs internet all the time, you will see in the set up important to add your phone's hotspot for mobile.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:28
PR ALL THE THINGS! please and thanks ;) (good discussion, btw, at DData16 so will loop back later to see what everyone’s suggesting :))
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:28
is Mark live?
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:29
but you can plug your CGM into the pi to get the CGM data to your nightscout
GabeA23
@GabeA23
Jun 10 2016 19:29
Thanks @shgrady . Why can't we intercept the raw CGM data coming from the sensor/transmitter? Is it encrypted?
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Jun 10 2016 19:29
I can't get the thing to stream... dunno
it’s streaming for me
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:30
Mark is not on yet
Courtney from FDA is still talking
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:30
I thought the problem was that the Nightscout site is for instance where you put your carbs for instance, so many calculations done there, not by the Pi.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:30
I’ll ping here when he’s on
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:30
required me to use Chrome on my Mac because I don’t have Flash (FLASH evil) on Safari
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:30
And we’re tweeting in case livestream isn’t good. Check out #DData16 on twitter
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:30
it looks and sounds great now
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:30
http://www.tchat.io/rooms/ddata16 a good place to watch it (hide retweets is my suggestion)
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:31
can’t really read the slides, but video is good
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:31
this one is super text heavy, but there are pics coming of it.
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:32
You should do a live stream like the tech sites do for Apple keynotes, LOL
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:33
I do the live tweeting. Take it up with the live streamers ;)
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:35
They do say you don't have to use Nightscout, so I must be wrong
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:36
@shgrady NS not required, but it’s highly recommended for loop status and loop visualization.
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:36
so the earlier question he had about whether you need internet access all the time, you don't right, just recc if you put stuff into nightscout?
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Jun 10 2016 19:37
thanks for tip on chrome @loudestnoise
works now
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:37
:+1:
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:37
you do not need internet access all the time to loop. that’s irregardless of decision to use NS or not.
you can enter carbs on pump and the loop will read it directly
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:38
oh welp, the video I was using just ended
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:38
"you do not need internet access all the time to loop. that’s irregardless of decision to use NS or not." @GabeA23 see Dana who is answering your questions
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Jun 10 2016 19:40
i think they were just using that as the test... hopefully the legit video will be back up
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:40
I put carbs in 1g, 2g, 3g into Nightscout because if I put them into the pump I have it wants to bolus for them, which I don't always want
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:40
@shgrady which pump version are you using?
one of the pump versions allows you to back out without bolusing, and carbs will still be read into the system.
can’t remember which one
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 19:41
alternately you can do a 0.1U bolus with the bolus wizard carb entry
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:41
otherwise you could just do a .1 bolus and then let the loop counteract it as needed. or as you do when online, use NS to enter
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:41
Sorry, I did not mean to confuse the conversation, anxious and trying to talk out my learning
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:41
no problem @shgrady! :)
I wasn’t sure who was asking which question anyway :)
GabeA23
@GabeA23
Jun 10 2016 19:42
@shgrady thanks! @danamlewis does that mean the Raspberry Pie or Intel Edison is pulling my BG data straight from my CGM sensor/transmitter? Sorry for the basic questions, I am working my way through the OpenAPS documentation and it's a lot!
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:42
I am currently using an Omnipod, everybody has been trying to suggest ways for me to find a compatible pump on here today.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:43
@GabeA23 you build openaps rig to pull data from the cgm receiver usually or from the cloud. and ditto from reading info (settings, history of activity) from the pump.
GabeA23
@GabeA23
Jun 10 2016 19:43
@danamlewis Gotcha, so the openaps rig can't pull raw data directly from the transmitter? Has that been attempted?
Sarah Hodson Grady
@shgrady
Jun 10 2016 19:44
I think people are trying with g5s and xdrip....
g5 is bluetooth, g4 is radio transmissions
the people trying to get the Omnipod to work are focusing on those radio transmissions
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:45
@GabeA23 some folks are working on it for g5, but not done yet. so still need a receiver OR to hook your system up to pull the bgs from the share server. (which means you’d need to be online to loop, so we still recommend having a receiver for offline use)
Dan Piessens
@dpiessens
Jun 10 2016 19:46
Im running my G5 with xDrip and Nightscout to get it in the loop
I'm working on direct support for an edison or PI right now, but it's not as straight foreward
If you have a G5 and receiver
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 19:48
Mark is walking up for anyone who wants to watch!
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 19:48
!
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Jun 10 2016 19:48
yay!
Jason Wittmer
@jbwittmer
Jun 10 2016 19:56
@Spazholio By the way, I did finally figure out the command to rezone my pumphistory.json (you were helping me with it yesterday). Added a report via openaps report add monitor/pumphistory-zoned.json JSON tz rezone monitor/pumphistory.json and it works.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 19:57
That seems markedly simpler than what I had. Odd. Either way, congrats!
Jason Wittmer
@jbwittmer
Jun 10 2016 19:59
Thanks. I tried to do a pull request to modify the docs to explain what I did for those who come later, but I'm not sure I did that right. Anyway, seems that there is a movement towards a different way to implement Nightscout integration anyway.
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Jun 10 2016 20:07
wonderfully done!
David Cintron
@loudestnoise
Jun 10 2016 20:07
:+1: :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1:
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 20:08
I'd be curious to hear from @bewest if the way @jbwittmer did his rezoning has any potential problems down the line.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 20:08
@mddub just ROCKED IT.
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Jun 10 2016 20:09
uh... mic drop moments galore
GabeA23
@GabeA23
Jun 10 2016 20:10
@mddub wonderful talk. You conveyed the reality of living with T1D so well.
Matt Pressnall
@logichammer
Jun 10 2016 20:24
GREAT TALK!!!!
So perfectly presented...
For the folks looking for pumps, I have your hook up!

I have the contact info for these folks that have compatible pumps to sell and did a bunch of research on them before buying / talked to the two guys before purchasing; Ashley just seemed super legit after researching her / exchanging lots of email. They are all legit / sent me what I was expecting.


  1. Eric Aleman
    eric.aleman@fredloya.com
    Has one pump left that is compatible
    He is in TX
    Slow responder
    Phone is: +1-956-2892233
    Cheaper prices...like $500
    Make sure he uses a box to pack the pump in...mine came in a padded envelope.
  1. ashleymiranda906@yahoo.com
    Has multiple compatible pumps...a bit cheaper than the next guy
    Lightning fast responder
    I feel she has some way of getting more
    In North Carolina

3.Todd Melton
astonishing99@gmail.com
403.466.1095
He definitely can get more pumps. He has some contact down in California that gets them as they are turned in and then sends them to Todd in Canada who then sells them.
Expensive
Lives in Canada

His list of pumps

  1. Medtronic Revel 723
    · Manufactured 2015-07
    · Never used
    · Comes with original box
    · Pink
    · $1880
    · SN#PCR376963H
    · Ver 3.0B
  2. Medtronic Revel 723
    · Manufactured 2015-06
    · Used 1 Month
    · No box, but has all manuals
    · Purple
    · $1680
    · SN#PCR454033h
    · Ver 3.0B
  3. Medtronic Revel 530G (551)
    · Manufactured 2014-09
    · Used 3.5 months
    · Comes with original box
    · Black
    · $1580
    · SN#PBR815473H
    · Ver 1.1F
  4. Medtronic Revel 723
    · Manufactured 2015-08
    · Used 2 Months
    · No box, but has all manuals
    · Black
    · $1580
    · SN#PBR800988H
    · Ver 2.5B
    . Medtronic Revel 723
    · Manufactured 2014-09
    · Used 2 Months
    · No box, but has all manuals
    · Blue
    · $1380
    · SN#PAR778870U
    · Ver 2.5B

  5. Medtronic Revel 723

Hristina Dimova
@xpucuto
Jun 10 2016 20:35
My website in Azure is down . It happens from time to time. I suppose its from Openaps . I found that i have to switch to a paid option which is not a problem but can someone specifically suggest which paid option should i choose . I switched now to shared last time i did it i paid 15 Euro . I have profile in Heroku so i can switch there too. My husband has a domaind and i suppose we can install our own server there . Any ideas will be highly apreciated .
Matt Pressnall
@logichammer
Jun 10 2016 20:40

@shgrady,@jaylagorio,@aabramowicz,@wkcwells,@itsn0tm3,@morsen

If you are looking for pumps, see my message above this one...I had luck with all of them.

Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 20:42
@dm61 @loudestnoise I'm still having trouble getting my ns-status to include "clock iob suggested enacted battery reservoir status" fields
Lynne Butts
@flutelynne_twitter
Jun 10 2016 20:53
@xpucuto Even with heroku, I have to restart the dynos every once in a while so everything shows up. I pay $7 USD per month. If you use share at all with NS, uptimerobot keeps things running a little better.
Hristina Dimova
@xpucuto
Jun 10 2016 20:55
@flutelynne_twitter I don't have share I'm in Europe . Is it only one paid plan in Heroku ?
7$ sound fine :)
Lynne Butts
@flutelynne_twitter
Jun 10 2016 20:57
@xpucuto I am not sure. I took the cheapest option.
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 21:02
@thacherT1D , assuming you are now following openaps/docs#129, have you done: oref0 device-helper ns-status 'ns-status $*' | openaps import to setup the ns-status device?
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 21:06
yes, I still only end up with [device "ns-status"] vendor = openaps.vendors.process extra = ns-status.ini
and not with the other fields
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 21:07
that's ok; now that you have the ns-device, you can setup the report that pulls all the data for the status update
For example, this is what I did (exactly as explained in Ben's notes):
openaps report add nightscout/openaps-status.json JSON ns-status shell monitor/clock.json oref0-monitor/iob.json oref0-predict/oref0.json oref0-enacted/enacted-temp-basal.json monitor/battery.json monitor/reservoir.json monitor/status.json
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 21:15
okay -- how do I remove a process that is messed up? I tried to remove simmilar to a device and it didn't work
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 21:26
using openaps device remove "process name" worked
Matt Pazoles
@Pazoles
Jun 10 2016 21:31
Has anyone ever had an issue taking their rig through airport security?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 21:32
No @Pazoles
See conversation with @PazolesBrooke_twitter yesterday and also phase 6 page in the docs on Usability :)
Matt Pazoles
@Pazoles
Jun 10 2016 21:33
haha, awesome, I'm on the road for work, should have figured she was already on it/should have searched before I asked
thanks!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 21:39
:) no worries
David Daniels
@ddaniels1
Jun 10 2016 21:45
@ryanchen26 we dilute insulin using the diluent from Lilly. As someone else mentioned it is free. We make U-25 every 2 weeks in the diluent vial by discarding 250 units (1000 units total in the vial) and replacing that volume with 250 units of lispro. Works very well and her ISF is around 90. I also think that given her basal is between 0.1-0.4 of U-25, if we were using U-100 I'm not sure how accurate the actual insulin delivery would be when you get down to 0.025 units per hour which is I believe the pump minimum.
@danamlewis have the bugs been worked out of AMA? is it merged yet? I have meal assist working and wondering if it is worth changing to AMA? I deactivated auto sense because it seemed to be doing some screwy things, she eats a lot being so young and I think it was misinterpreting certain things because of that.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 21:47
“have the bugs been worked out” I don’t know how to answer that question ;) but more people than I have expected have jumped on AMA already
AMA is better for meal and for auto sens, so would be worth crossing the line to try it and see if it’s better in those situations or if you want to keep it disabled
David Daniels
@ddaniels1
Jun 10 2016 21:49
what is the principal advantage of auto sens as opposed to just letting the loop adjust? Is it in trying to keep an accurate real "IOB" be adjusting the basal to what basal needs actually are?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 21:49
@ddaniels1 I still want to fix openaps/oref0#98 before I'm fully happy with autosens in AMA, but I think it's better than in master, and as Dana said, worth a look. There's still some extra work to be done to set up AMA: a lot of the work still needed is to make it easier to switch over.
@ddaniels1 you'll find that when autosens is working correctly, it will do a better job of getting BG back into range when sensitivity changes due to unusual exercise/activity patterns, sickness, hormones, etc.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 21:50
^ what @scottleibrand said re that last Q
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 21:51
without autosens it will still respond appropriately to bring BG back into range eventually, but you'll end up riding high or low more often than with autosens
David Daniels
@ddaniels1
Jun 10 2016 21:55
OK I will look for the AMA set up doc and start working on it. then I am planning on working on eating soon and hopefully some documentation contributions there. By the way, I edited determine-basal to allow a slightly higher max temp basal for Olivia, due to her 30:70 basal:bolus ratio she wasn't getting enough of the high temps. working well for her so far.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 21:57
we probably should make that overridable by adding something to preferences.json: feel free to start on that if you like, or at least make sure it's tracked in an oref0 issue
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jun 10 2016 22:05
:+1:
^ @Spazholio like I referenced this am
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 22:20
@thacherT1D you can use -h to get help on openaps commands, e.g. openaps report -h will show that you can do add , remove or show
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 22:43
thanks! @dm61 I'm looking at the pump now... which 6 digit number should work? the only SN I'm seeing is alpha numeric 10 digit
Matt Walker
@walker0
Jun 10 2016 22:44
@thacherT1D the 6 numeric numbers in the middle of the serial number
stephanie chen
@stephaniechen82_twitter
Jun 10 2016 22:44
We are currently working on adjusting our I:C ratio such that the APS does not result in a zero or negative basal for an extended period of time. Currently, we give a bolus and then are in zero basal for several hours. But the BS are working out great (however under our target of 150). is there any concern to running on zero basal for an extended period of time, such as ketones?
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 22:45
@walker0 hmmm... okay, tried that, but then when I go to ping the pump for the model number I don't get a response?
Matt Walker
@walker0
Jun 10 2016 22:47
how far away is your pump?
Thacher
@thacherT1D
Jun 10 2016 22:49
right next to it
ValueError: Attempting to use a port that is not open
Dragan Maksimovic
@dm61
Jun 10 2016 22:57
You have CareLink stick plugged in?
GeoffWyche
@GeoffWyche
Jun 10 2016 23:25
@thacherT1D is this on linux or raspberry pi? If so, you can try `sudo chmod a+rw /dev/ttyUSB0
er, sorry, missed a backtick: sudo chmod a+rw /dev/ttyUSB0
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Jun 10 2016 23:37
I think that would work if he were getting a “Permission Denied” error. This sounds like the system might not actually see the device, no?
mariano42
@mariano42
Jun 10 2016 23:39
Apologies if this has been covered, but I am wondering if anyone has tried working on a way to automate the bolus calculator on a pump. I am in the process of setting up openaps, and noticed carelink lets you tweak the bc. I understand openaps doesn't mess with bolusing, and that's not my intent. But I hate the way my pump (I have been on a tandem, but switching back to my old Medtronic so I can get this all setup) disregards insulin on board as soon
(Continued.. Whoops) ... As soon as I go above target. They handle it fine if I'm below, but once I go even 1 mg over target the bc seems to just forget about iob. Is there something that care portal could do to help with this?
I know that's an easy calculation to do, but it would be nice to have some type of audit trail when i override my bc. Thanks for all you guys do on here. It's awesome and motivating
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jun 10 2016 23:56
@mariano42 I think @jasoncalabrese is farthest along at customizing things to make the bolus wizard play nicer with openaps
@stephaniechen82_twitter one thing you could try is doing a smaller-than-recommended bolus and letting the loop deliver additional information afterward...