What should "basal iob" say when you have no temporary basal rate on
depends on what was done in the last DIA hours
Thanks man, got that part working perfectly now time to move forward
Just before I move on, I realise that when I calculate iob, I have to
This gets the desired output, in order. However, i would love for it to work when I call the
openaps report invoke monitor/pumphistory.json monitor/clock.json monitor/iob.jsonThis gets the desired output, in order. However, i would love for it to work when I call the
get-profileas surely that would be more efficient? Or should I create an alias for calculate iob so I can call it like get-profile?
to provide "pump history"
Forget what I said^^
@bfaloona that sounds like a cron issue maybe? As I recall there is a line in the docs suggesting to clear out the old reports before enacting to avoid this type of issue. You could try checking when the file was written or having clock.json updated when you pull data and confirming that is with x amount of time, etc.
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seems so
@kimstdennis_twitter can you (or someone) remind me of the incantation?
@mhaeberli I think you can safely ignore those
unless it's causing other issues
~/my_openaps $ openaps report invoke enact/suggested. json
determine-basal://text/shell/enact/suggested.json
Could not parse input data: [TypeError: Cannot read property 'glucose' of unde fined]
reporting enact/suggested.json
@scottleibrand thx
Hi everyone. I am at the point where you add the nightscout shell to pull glucose values from nightscout. I think I want to skip this. I can add it in later, right?
do you have a CGM connected over USB?
yes
then yes, you can skip pulling glucose from NS
Cool. Thanks ; )
Can somebody put in
openaps monitor-cgm and then open the respective file so I can make a mock
:))
I need to see the format glucose values are so I can make the system think theres glucose values when theres not
https://github.com/jasoncalabrese/indy/blob/indy2/monitor/glucose.json is a simple example...
and https://github.com/jasoncalabrese/indy/blob/edison/monitor/glucose-ns.json is a more detailed one
Hey Guys, I get the following error when trying to set an ISF above 100: ISF of -1 is not supported. My daughter’s current ISF is 300. Any suggestions?
Wow, didn’t even know that was possible
are you sure it’s that high? 1u of insulin will drop her BG 300mg/dL?
yeah, 1800 rule would put her at about 200, but that will overshoot it badly
she's only 3 years old as well
Gotcha, yeah I wonder if other younger children on OpenAPS have ISFs like that
Someone will know ;)
Yeah, I have read some stuff about kids using diluted insulin, but I'd like to avoid that if possible
@GreggHaroldson2 what is the 1800 rule?
@GreggHaroldson2 ok google is helping with the answer
@mhaeberli :smile:
In the Uk we use the 100 rule. 100 divided by total daily dose = ISF in mmol/L in the US it is 1800 rule (factor of 18) to have ISF in mg/dL.
And jeez, ISF of 300!
@johners97 that actually makes that calculation make so much more sense....
I know, its crazy high. Every time we try to back it down, we overshoot. She's still in honeymoon phase too
@GreggHaroldson2 as inconvenient as it might seem, diluted insulin might be a good idea for someone as sensitive to insulin as she is... it would certainly give you a little more "wiggle room" for dosing errors
My son was diagnosed at 4 and we had to dilute U100 to U25 to get better precision. What do you have against diluting?
@sarahspins Good idea, although, the insulin structure may be altered using distilled water. So, distilled water + relevant pH modulators
???
How do u dilute it
I know it seems simple, but is it literally just water
or does a pharmacist do it
@johners97 I know they make a special dilutant for Humalog, though I don't know what is in it.
@maciorowski - Not entirely opposed - just wanted to see if there were other options that folks were doing here. With ISF at 300, we get "close enough" - and the medtronic pump we intend to use will allow it (although it gives a little warning). I guess I'm just a little weary of introducing another variable.
You can ask your endo to do it for you. Do not use water. There is a special diluent for it
So dilute it to get nominal IFS below 100?
for openaps to work?
ISF*
or...
@sarahspins - good point
None if my kids have T1, but I can say without hestiation that if they did, and had an ISF of 300 I'd be diluting insulin... there's no way to give them a safe correction undiluted
yeah, thats dangerously high
I mean even with a pump.. the margin of error and inherent risk still seems fairly high
yeah
my isf is 32
been diabetic for 12 years, was super sensitive back then
jeez need more cake starting to shake
Not sure how are far along you are with openaps but in the meantime you still have to give shots and even your pump may be allowing you better control of basals with diluted insulin. What is the smallest increment your pump can handle?
her current pump (animas ping) will do .025. The medtronic 722 will do .05
so, you may not need it for the pump, but you will still need it for the shots...
ok, thanks all for the input!
@ddaniels1 and @moomoobloo are also good ones to ask about how to deal with tiny kids with tiny basals and high ISFs
One more thing, with such small basals your pump will take much longer to detect 'no delivery' due to blocked lines
@scottleibrand - thank you!
I have out of the blue started struggling a little bit with overnight - from being perfectly stable, I have started to run low between midnight to 2 am, nothing crazy, but want to fix. Typically I see that this occurs 2-3 after the peak of when blood sugar was highest and loop corrects it down, just a tad bit too aggressive it seems.
I am not quite sure if I should adjust basal down, adjust target up OR adjust insulin sensitivity.
Any tips on what has worked best when running loop, to fix something like this?
sjolundjohn: run without the loop for an evening and see if it still happens?
Was using the 640g previosly and would often have insulin delivery shut off at night
sjolundjohn: might be worth basal testing
@cjo20 thanks
Basal testing from 10-12; OR look and see if you're going into the night consistently with that iob; either adjust that last meal bolus so you don't end up with that spike and high temp, or move the meal/snack up slightly...a couple things to try
~/my_openaps $ openaps loop
insulin_pump://JSON/read_clock/monitor/clock.json
reporting monitor/clock.json
PREFLIGHT OK
insulin_pump://JSON/read_settings/settings/settings.json
reporting settings/settings.json
insulin_pump://JSON/read_bg_targets/settings/bg_targets_raw.json
reporting settings/bg_targets_raw.json
units://JSON/bg_targets/settings/bg-targets.json
reporting settings/bg-targets.json
insulin_pump://JSON/read_insulin_sensitivities/settings/insulin-sensitivities-raw.json
reporting settings/insulin-sensitivities-raw.json
units://JSON/insulin_sensitivities/settings/insulin-sensitivities.json
reporting settings/insulin-sensitivities.json
insulin_pump://JSON/read_basal_profile_std/settings/basal-profile.json
reporting settings/basal-profile.json
get-profile://text/shell/settings/profile.json
reporting settings/profile.json
glucose://JSON/clean/monitor/glucoseclean.json
monitor/glucoseclean.json raised can't open 'monitor/glucose.json': [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'monitor/glucose.json'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/bin/openaps-report", line 4, in <module>
__import__('pkg_resources').run_script('openaps==0.1.5', 'openaps-report')
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/setuptools-24.2.0-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 719, in run_script
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/setuptools-24.2.0-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 1504, in run_script
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openaps-0.1.5-py2.7.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/openaps-report", line 82, in <module>
app( )
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openaps-0.1.5-py2.7.egg/openaps/cli/__init__.py", line 51, in __call__
self.run(self.args)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openaps-0.1.5-py2.7.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/openaps-report", line 75, in run
output = app(args, self)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openaps-0.1.5-py2.7.egg/openaps/cli/subcommand.py", line 52, in __call__
return self.method.main(args, app)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openaps-0.1.5-py2.7.egg/openaps/reports/invoke.py", line 40, in main
output = task.method(args, app)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openaps-0.1.5-py2.7.egg/openaps/uses/use.py", line 45, in __call__
output = self.main(args, app)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openapscontrib.glucosetools-1.0.0-py2.7.egg/openapscontrib/glucosetools/__init__.py", line 102, in main
args, _ = self.get_program(self.get_params(args))
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openapscontrib.glucosetools-1.0.0-py2.7.egg/openapscontrib/glucosetools/__init__.py", line 79, in get_program
return [json.load(argparse.FileType('r')(params['infile']))], dict()
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/argparse.py", line 1142, in __call__
raise ArgumentTypeError(message % (string, e))
argparse.ArgumentTypeError: can't open 'monitor/glucose.json': [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'monitor/glucose.json'
LOOP FAILED.
Is this because there is no actual cgms values?
johners97: where is the line where it says it is running monitor/glucose.json?
~/my_openaps $ openaps loop
insulin_pump://JSON/read_clock/monitor/clock.json
reporting monitor/clock.json
PREFLIGHT OK
insulin_pump://JSON/read_settings/settings/settings.json
reporting settings/settings.json
insulin_pump://JSON/read_bg_targets/settings/bg_targets_raw.json
reporting settings/bg_targets_raw.json
units://JSON/bg_targets/settings/bg-targets.json
reporting settings/bg-targets.json
insulin_pump://JSON/read_insulin_sensitivities/settings/insulin-sensitivities-raw.json
reporting settings/insulin-sensitivities-raw.json
units://JSON/insulin_sensitivities/settings/insulin-sensitivities.json
reporting settings/insulin-sensitivities.json
insulin_pump://JSON/read_basal_profile_std/settings/basal-profile.json
reporting settings/basal-profile.json
get-profile://text/shell/settings/profile.json
reporting settings/profile.json
insulin_pump://JSON/iter_glucose/monitor/glucose.json
reporting monitor/glucose.json
glucose://JSON/clean/monitor/glucoseclean.json
reporting monitor/glucoseclean.json
insulin_pump://JSON/read_clock/monitor/clock.json
reporting monitor/clock.json
insulin_pump://JSON/read_temp_basal/monitor/temp_basal.json
reporting monitor/temp_basal.json
insulin_pump://JSON/iter_pump_hours/monitor/pumphistory.json
reporting monitor/pumphistory.json
calculate-iob://JSON/shell/monitor/iob.json
reporting monitor/iob.json
calculate-iob://JSON/shell/monitor/iob.json
reporting monitor/iob.json
[Errno 2] No such file or directory
openaps: 'enact' is not an openaps command. See 'openaps --help'.
What do you think that error means?
Fixed the monitor-cgm alias, just dunno why its saying this
Hey everyone, my wife's openaps compatible pump just broke :( is there a good place where we have a good chance to acquire one?
@cjo20 I don't know
@johners97 Instead of running it all as one big command, try executing the individual commands yourself to work out which command is failing
@tmecklem Craigslist or Medwow are popular answers
@sjolundjohn - I'll echo the basal testing suggestion from @danamlewis and @cjo20 (which with CGM is really just a matter of making sure you go to bed with no basal IOB, running without loop, and then looking at CGM data in the morning). I've found that I have to lower my overnight basal during the summer. Just enough more activity that it makes a difference I guess.
gather = ! bash -c "rm -f monitor/*; openaps get-profile && openaps monitor-cgm && openaps mon itor-pump && openaps report invoke monitor/iob.json"
get-profile = report invoke settings/settings.json settings/bg_targets_raw.json settings/bg-ta rgets.json settings/insulin-sensitivities-raw.json settings/insulin-sensitivities.json setting s/basal-profile.json settings/profile.json
monitor-pump = report invoke monitor/clock.json monitor/temp_basal.json monitor/pumphistory.js on monitor/iob.json
loop = ! bash -c "( openaps preflight && openaps gather && openaps enact) || echo LOOP FAILED. "
alias
@johners97 run each of the reports manually
aliases are just there to make things easier when you've got everything working
Ahhh i've no enact alias?
Are you asking me or telling me?
Lollll
:D
Chris you're amazing
@tmecklem noooooo :( try craigslist (all cities) and or ask around your local community
Had a friend request a switch their scrip to medtronic supplies from another pump. They were honest with their endo when pressed about using it for OpenAPS, and it sounds like the endo is going to deny their request (maybe because of the implied support for OpenAPS?). Anyone have any tips in navigating this situation?
:( switch endo’s? :/ or the other option would be to buy supplies sans insurance through craiglist or the like. I’ve heard of a couple people doing that successfully and for about the same price it would’ve been after insurance...
or one of their other docs (PCP?) may be willing to send in the script for pump supplies?
@ps2 come up with another need to switch to medtronic
@danamlewis Yeah, I think those are good ideas. @cjo20 They’ve presented some non-openaps reasons as well, but I think the cat is out of the bag at this point.
@ps2 the other thing to try would to be honest with the doc along the lines of: it sounds like you don’t want to endorse this. prescribing me necessary diabetes supplies for the PUMP OF MY CHOICE is not endorsing me pursuing this, which I acknowledge is off-label use… but I still plan to pursue this because the Medtronic pump is going to be the pump I choose to use going forward… (it might make the doc happy to be able to say “I discussed with the patient that this is off-label and unrecommended use” in the chart notes to cover himself?)
Ugh. Hope I don't run into this (just getting started). I have enough old Medtronic supplies to run for a bit, though.
that way it might separate the un-approval/non-support from the ‘get the supplies I need’ thing.
I like @danamlewis 's idea here.
I bring this up not only to ask for ideas, but maybe as a cautionary tale. I think it’s important to be open with your endo, but you might want to be careful about putting them in a place that might make them look like they’re explicitly endorsing (on the record) a non standard therapy.
yea. it makes me sad, though :(
Yes, @danamlewis I think that’s to the point.
@tmecklem There may be a online classifieds that has larger volume in your area than craiglist. When I was looking for an affordable portable oxygen concentrator a tv/radio station's classifieds had 3-4 times more ads than craigslist.
Wow. Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
Just got the second slice of radio as a backup option. Didn't think the next thing to go would be the pump.
It's the button problem, so she's hoping desiccant will work on it.
oh @tmecklem button error? there’s an image floating around that shows how to try to clean them and resolve that...
I'd appreciate a link for sure. She took it to an indoor pool and the humidity must have gotten to it. Started alarming and she couldn't dismiss it.
I don't know how you T1D parents handle the highs and lows and kids and unexpected equipment failure. Seems super stressful.
@tmecklem I think this is the right video version (from @amoskane) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWRVSHXN5cQ, someone did a step by step in images/instructions but couldn’t find that at a glance, but maybe someoen else can link that
:+1:
Does openaps work on the new medtronic 640g?
ooh @tmecklem I found the link, it was on the hardware page: http://imgur.com/a/iOXAP
I'm getting a 640g in november, hopefully it works the same!
@scottleibrand apologies, I have not been able to load dev again to test. I had a number of Pi hardware/wifi issues I was dealing with last night so I didnt get a chance... I will give it another go tonight (hopefully)
Can someone recommend a good pass-through battery/charger for the pi 3? I bought a Limefuel that claims to be pass through, but apparently it doesn't play nice with the Pi. The manufacturer confirmed that they have seen issues as well. Works great as just a battery though! After a number of power issues that have created havoc on my loop and my wifi I now realize I need to try and different power source.
@johners97 It’s not compatible with OpenAPS as we know it today, because we can’t send temp basal commands to it.
however, there are people working out to figure a microbolus strategy to do the high end of the looping and have the PGLM features catch any predicted lows as a result.
I also am looking for a good battery as @mariano42 is. If we get info about this, is there a wiki or place in the docs to share info about this? Maybe a new subsection in the hardware part?
there are two batteries already listed in the docs
there’s some notes in hardware about recommended batteries, please update if you find others worth recommending
Ah, great.
Will do.
One thing I'm interested in (but rarely in published specs) is whether you can open the case to replace internal batteries when they start to lose capacity.
given that these battery banks are basically just the battery and a tiny bit of circuitry and plastic, that doesn't seem useful to me, vs. just replacing the entire battery bank
Well, that pass-through charging circuitry is worth something, though. Costs energy to manufacture and dispose of. I take your point, though - certainly the cells are the bulk of the mass and volume.
Just posted a question about this on the Amazon page for one of the recommended units. Will see if anyone responds.
generally for items in this value range, the value of time required to do (and test) replacements is far higher than the value of the materials and energy "wasted" by disposing of the whole thing when one component reaches the end of its useful life
@elnjensen @danamlewis @cjo20 thanks for the tips!
has anyone gotten the "loop looks like a bomb" remark? I'm in DC and I'm scared someone will see it out of the pouch and report a suspicious package. :/
never had anyone say that, other than loopers joking amongst themselves (which I don’t like, because it does not look like an explosive, it looks like small computer parts put together)
One of my managers thought it was a souped-up phone and the other made the bomb remark. I like having it out on my desk during work versus in the pouch but I don't leave it out unattended
you should call out your manager for that comment: it's the kind of ignorance that gets a kid taken out of class and roughed up by the cops for building a clock and taking it to school.
fortunately TSA and most professionals know the difference between a clock and a bomb, unlike ignorant Americans who learned everything they know from TV and movies. </rant>
Hi everybody i am new to this room, does anybody knows if you can give a bolus with openAPS on the 640G?
@sebastiaanvduijn welcome. you won’t be able to bolus with the openaps toolkit on a 640g. There are people working to figure out how to use the meter and possibly bolus a 640g, but there’s not a toolkit and it’s not integrated into OpenAPS yet.
allright thanks for the answer, i am currently thinking to build an iOS app in order to send push notifications to you and maybe one of your friends when your sugar is not ok. Is there already an app for it? otherwise i will start building it soon
have you seen Nightscout, @sebastiaanvduijn? there’s a lot of apps out there and lots of ways to alert around BGs these days…which is good :)
@scottleibrand yeah I turned it into a teaching moment and explained how all the pieces interacted. My work team is cool but the average american in DC can be a little jumpy with "suspicious packages"
@sebastiaanvduijn most of the conversation around the 640G is happening in pazaan/decoding-contour-nextlink
nice i see the app right now, very great!!
@danamlewis I've relied on Craigslist for supplies when I've been between endos.... access to things (pump supplies, dexcom, insulin etc) is actually not that difficult at all... ebay and amazon are also options, but prices tend to be much higher that way (still less than some of us pay even WITH insurance though).
good to know @sarahspins , thanks for confirming!
Please forgive my cross posting, I know some folks only hit some of the gitter channels.
I know you guys are all GitHub experts, but I want to point out this release from Axosoft today around their new GitKraken Pro software. Thank you to Scott Hanselman for making the introduction and bringing us together. https://blog.axosoft.com/2016/07/28/introducing-gitkraken-pro/
The Nightscout Foundation exists to enable what's next, so if you find yourself paying for servers or hosting for your testing, your OpenAPS variant, or other T1 related projects, please let me know if we can help. We have literally thousands of dollars worth of Azure resources we can offer, we just need to know what you need. Thank you all for everything you do for this community.
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