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Oct 2016
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 00:25
Ugh...gut hurts like hell. FML!
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 00:33
At Home Depot right now. Saw an advertisement for Energizer Max and Energizer Ultimate. Apparently they are improved!!! https://imgur.com/a/Y7HQk
And there's no amount of opium tincture, that will stop my gut problems! 😭
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 00:47
:rabbit:
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 00:50
@scottleibrand Hahahaha! 😂
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 00:55
Anyway, at home now. Time to take opium to calm down my lower gut. At least my bladder problems are being at least relatively close to being resolved, or more like at least a lot more tolerable. That makes me feel better about myself, even when I do feel lousy.
John Benjamin
@Bender1061
Oct 28 2016 00:56
So loving using the Eating soon mode setup on my pebble. I have found that since I've started using it. It does help the spike, but using that and how the meal assist works, I have found, I don't need to be as accurate about how much carbs I'm eating. I do a about guess, I have not been counting as accurately as I once did. So it takes less time and less thought, but my sugars after a meal have been way better than what they have ever been before.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Oct 28 2016 00:57
:thumbsup:
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 00:58
Can you use Apple Watch with OpenAPS, particularly Edison setup?
John Benjamin
@Bender1061
Oct 28 2016 01:00
If apple watch will let you get an app that does ifttt you should be able too
at least for the eating soon mode
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 01:08
Yeah it can do IFTTT. So will have to figure that out! Thanks!!!!
John Benjamin
@Bender1061
Oct 28 2016 01:12
Ok, so watching the nightscout facebook with all their videos of the d-data echange. And Wes??? from the nightscout foundation talks about a breakthrough from yesterdays hackathon on a chip to talk to the newer medtronic pumps. Anyone know what he is talking about? they figure out a way to get past that 2 or 3 min pc connect issue. or did they figure out an even better way?
or is he talking about getting the information from the 630? so just reading the information
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 01:49
@Spazholio any idea on wiring your 1000c?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 01:55
Something different. Will fill in details later
John Benjamin
@Bender1061
Oct 28 2016 01:56
oh that's just cruel!
lol
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 01:58
Me?
Stet
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 02:18
I wonder if it is related to dex
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Oct 28 2016 02:29
Apparently, Wes Ton is a master at clickbait :P
John Benjamin
@Bender1061
Oct 28 2016 02:38
no he specifically said it had to do with the newer medtronic pumps. and it involved a pretty cheap Chip. they started the hashtag dontmakeusdothis, and since Dana said it's something different. my guess is they have found a way to flash the firmware.
I'm sure medtronic has a way to do this wirelessly, and if someone figured that out.
I'm a EE, i need to get a job at Medtronic in the R&D group and be a mole. But I love being a Robotics Engineer, so I guess I won't do that.
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 02:45
If you can flash it I wonder if they left the FW retrieveable
John Benjamin
@Bender1061
Oct 28 2016 02:46
But now we/I are starting to sound like a sewing circle gossiping about what they might have figured out. lol
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 02:47

dontmemegossiplikethis

that was supposed to be a hash tag but I forgot markdown
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Oct 28 2016 02:55
I'd go work for medtronic if they had decent jobs int he UK :P
Kevin Marshall
@ruess
Oct 28 2016 03:00
hmmm sounds like an interesting development whatever it is. I guess until this point I’ve always just assumed they didn’t want the community to get direct access to programming pumps because they didn’t want us to hurt ourselves. But I’m guessing there’s also a financial fear as well - giving us access and letting us close the loop could cost less for us than an official route?
hopefully though they come to see that opening things up ends up making everyone more $$ - the hard lesson that Microsoft finally started learning recently by including linux to it’s portfolio of product offerings
Terri Lyman
@tatigger
Oct 28 2016 03:18
do we have anyone working on hacking the Tslim? I am considering upgrading just to have access to the newer one so I can learn how to figure out how to jail break it. Who wants to teach me?
Because I am really not a fan of medtronic. I LOVE OpenAPS though
Maybe we could bribe one of Wes' family members to tickle him until he tells.
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 03:19
Dex announced today that they are opening up a dev portal and helping people build apps for their hardware
Terri Lyman
@tatigger
Oct 28 2016 03:20
Very cool.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 03:20
They're talking about hot wiring the pump with stripping off the button layer and adding another device to press the buttons.
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 03:20
I love it!!!
Terri Lyman
@tatigger
Oct 28 2016 03:20
LOL, Dana, is that a medtronic solution?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 03:20
It is not sustainable and most certainly gets into distributing something Med device related.
But, is it technologically possible? Yes. And that was the point he was trying to make.
So...I don't expect this to change much for us short term
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 03:22
I am really sad that a) they make it nearly impossible to get my data from their site. b) they took away my ability to do so otherwise. they could have put an option on the pump to allow remote control instead of blocking
and published the api
Terri Lyman
@tatigger
Oct 28 2016 03:25
Yeah, again, Not a Fan of medtronic. I have tried to use everything but since the 522. Because it really bothered me that mine weren't terribly time-accurate. I mean. Everything is based on time. It seemed to me that was just...not good. But I am really loving this looping thing. So how are you guys liberating your pump data from these old pumps? I had been using Diasend up until now. But nothing seems to work with 522 to get the pump data. And the day by day with everything I like to use in Nightscout is too messy to read well. Do NOT tell me graph paper and colored pencils. I will seriously cry. And the temp rates are too rapid to track manually in an additional app or on paper.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 03:26
Have you tried Tidepool yet?
Terri Lyman
@tatigger
Oct 28 2016 03:26
Yes. 523, but not the 522.
LOL, I will email me them and see if, just for me, they will add functionality. Apparently Medtronic isn't currently speaking to Diasend.
Kevin Marshall
@ruess
Oct 28 2016 03:29
@beached - that’s awesome about Dexcom - they’re quite forward sighted about the future
anyone know if Dexcom plans to make a pump? I wouldn’t be surprised if they have something in the works
(or do they already and I’m just ignorant)
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 03:30
In Canada Animas and Dex are partnered, but old tech, G4
Kevin Marshall
@ruess
Oct 28 2016 03:31
ahh
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 03:31
isn't t-slim partnering with them in US?
Kevin Marshall
@ruess
Oct 28 2016 03:31
I guess taking on a pump is a big effort - still they’re good at what they do
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 03:31
They won't make a pump but they partner with just about every pump that's not Medtronic
Kevin Marshall
@ruess
Oct 28 2016 03:32
That’s interesting about removing the button layer @danamlewis - is the idea to push the button manually or to activate them electronically somehow?
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 03:33
that should be a matter of bridgeing the connection, look at the video on the button error stuff. So I think it should be electronic and just switch it on/off
my guess
John Benjamin
@Bender1061
Oct 28 2016 03:42
Ha pressing the buttons, I was thinking about that before, when i was watching some older videos of automating guitar hero
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 03:43
New game, insulin hero where the star of the game takes drugs to stop from getting high
John Benjamin
@Bender1061
Oct 28 2016 03:43
Lol
eyim
@eyim
Oct 28 2016 03:43
Too funny
John Benjamin
@Bender1061
Oct 28 2016 03:46
But I do like that, much safer than firmware changing.
Kevin Marshall
@ruess
Oct 28 2016 03:59
@beached ya that makes sense - I wonder if it would comprimise water resistance?
maybe the layer on top could be added with a seal all around
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 04:00
duck tape works for anything.
Kevin Marshall
@ruess
Oct 28 2016 04:00
:laughing:
Mike Stebbins
@mikestebbins
Oct 28 2016 04:14
I just recently bought a backup pump off of Medwow (mine was old when I retired it 5 years ago!). I ended up just sending the same basic email to almost every 522/722 listed on Medwow, and now I have 5 people's email addresses who have pumps that they want to sell for $500-700. If you're interested, private message me and I'll share the medwow link and their email address.
Terri Lyman
@tatigger
Oct 28 2016 04:15
Good job Mike.
Neal
@tnharvey
Oct 28 2016 04:25
I've tried a number of commands I found for checking wifi status, none that I've found have worked, or I don't know what I'm looking at. How can I check to see what wifi status is (connected or not) and what network, etc?
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 04:26
Interesting. I see ads in Kijiji "Wanted: Older model Medtronic Insulin Pump 722, 522 with firmare 2.4A or lower". Looks like a looper. I am not sure those pumps came to canada though
Neal
@tnharvey
Oct 28 2016 05:28
nevermind my question above, wasn't including 'sudo', sorted now
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 07:22
@scottleibrand How does the Edison/Explorer combo replace a Pi setup specifically? Do you need 2 Edison/Explorer units running at once? I saw your post regarding this a couple of days ago...
Can you run NS on an Edison/Explorer setup?
C-Ville
@C-Ville
Oct 28 2016 07:47
@diabeticgonewild I do have MongodB and NS running on an Intel Edison, I am using an ERF module and not an Explorer Board, but this should not make a difference. You may want to also opt for the µ-SD card board from sparkfun if you want to run mongodb and NS both on your edison. Without a µ-SD I am always fighting for empty disk space.
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Oct 28 2016 07:51
For those in the U.K., this just came up on medwow. http://www.medwow.com/used-insulin-pump/medtronic/paradigm-722/871415036.item
Mike
@libxmike
Oct 28 2016 08:35
@/all is/was there more than one version of ERF or Slice of Radio where one version did not work with openaps?
C-Ville
@C-Ville
Oct 28 2016 08:49
@libxmike yes, there are ERF versions that do not work. The working ones have been discontinued a while ago and will be hard to get
the none working ones look like this here http://www.watterott.com/de/ERF-Module
Mike
@libxmike
Oct 28 2016 08:50
@C-Ville ok, thx. so Slice of Radio should be fine?
C-Ville
@C-Ville
Oct 28 2016 08:51
there are also close up pictures of both ERF variants in the mmeowlink channel
PieterGit
@PieterGit
Oct 28 2016 09:01
Powering a Intel Edison breakout board with 5V on J21 seems to work fine, and I'm able to use the USB with a TI-stick.
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The specs for J21 say 7V to 15V, but 5V seems of the Powerboost seems to be enough to be able to use the USB port. See also: http://kiir.net/blog/turning-intel-edison-mini-breakout-board/ for options of powering the Intel Edison breakout board.

I ran in the same problem as Brandon Faloona @bfaloona on https://gitter.im/nightscout/intend-to-bolus?at=57ad0ac3613cc180367ba884
I get a serial.serialutil.SerialException: Could not configure port: (25, 'Inappropriate ioctl for device') with mmtune.
Solution is to use:

/usr/local/bin/mmtune.py --subg_rfspy --radio_locale WW --port /dev/ttyACM0 --serial 123456

instead of

/usr/local/bin/mmtune.py --subg_rfspy --radio_locale WW --port /dev/mmeowlink --serial 123456
albertotrg
@albertotrg
Oct 28 2016 09:47
Please help, I found a Minimed 712 firmware 3.1A. Is that compatible with openAPS?
The seller is telling me that he has another one with 2.1
According to the docs all 712 are compatible or I'm wrong?
Hristina Dimova
@xpucuto
Oct 28 2016 09:50
@albertotrg i would jump on the 2.1 . Normally if the firmware is above 2.4 its not going to work but i am not sure if that aplies for all 712
albertotrg
@albertotrg
Oct 28 2016 09:50
Thanks!! So better ensure with 2.1
Hristina Dimova
@xpucuto
Oct 28 2016 09:51
Yes , or if u can wait till later when everybody will be awake .
albertotrg
@albertotrg
Oct 28 2016 09:55
😂😂😂 sorry I'm in Madrid
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Oct 28 2016 09:56
I wasn't sure. The impression I got from the docs was that all x12, x15 and x22 worked and it was once you got to the x23 that firmware played a part.
albertotrg
@albertotrg
Oct 28 2016 09:57
That's the point @tim2000s
albertotrg
@albertotrg
Oct 28 2016 10:23
So, the seller is telling me that he has a 712 v3.1A and a 512 v2.2.
I'd rather the 712 since I got 3ml reservoirs from my insurance (which do not fit on serie 5XX) but I want an loopable pump obvouesly
Hristina Dimova
@xpucuto
Oct 28 2016 10:24
Wow he has a big stock . On how many days do u change ur site ?
albertotrg
@albertotrg
Oct 28 2016 10:31
3 days. 1.8ml reservoir is fine for me. The point is that I can ger 3ml reservoir for free from my knsurance and I'd have to pay for the 1.8 ones
So I prefer a 712 pump but ig it's not loopable...I will ho for the 512
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Oct 28 2016 10:48
Hi Guys, slightly inappropriate I know, but we're doing some patient led research to fill a gap in CGM benefit data collection. If you can take five mins to comple this it would be great. https://tim2000s.typeform.com/to/TwXH4V
Eric Jensen
@elnjensen
Oct 28 2016 11:06
@libxmike Slice of Radio works great if you have one (or can still find one). Mfr is out of business unfortunately.
Hristina Dimova
@xpucuto
Oct 28 2016 11:16
@albertotrg can't u ask ur endo to change your prescription to 1.8 ml ? U can say that it's enough for u and want to be sure how many units u have in and don't waste insulin :) . 7xx work with with both 1.8 and 3 . So it shouldn't be a problem .
albertotrg
@albertotrg
Oct 28 2016 11:26
Thanks @xpucuto, I could try...anyway I just put 100units in the 3ml and isn't a problem.
By the way, is the 5xx smaller than the 7xx?
Hristina Dimova
@xpucuto
Oct 28 2016 11:40
Haven't got 5xx myself but from what I have seen yes . Slightly smaller
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 14:50
@albertotrg 712 is loopable
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 14:54
@C-Ville I REALLY appreciate your input! I'm going to get an micro-SD card from Sparkfun and go from there. I will do my research on how to do it, and go from there! I know I will need a decent micro-SD card! Thank you so much!!!
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 14:55
I have removed my app from Heroku and started over using the instructions. This is where I am at http://openaps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/docs/walkthrough/phase-1/nightscout-setup.html#nightscout-setup .... Enter your “API_SECRET” value. This is the passcode for the REST API upload. where do I get this from?
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 15:04
@C-Ville I found a document for a self-hosted version of Nightscout on Linux. I think this is what I will use after I flash Ubilinux onto a Sparkfun board using an SD card, and go from there! Thanks! :D https://gist.github.com/johnmales/1b3c927f2a56aae640b4b2cd0298b1e7
C-Ville
@C-Ville
Oct 28 2016 15:09
@diabeticgonewild that is pretty much the guide I was using, I slightly amended that and installed an updated node as this seems to be updated for ubilinux. I did put together a gitbook entry under my name, which unfortunately is still in German. @SandraK82 does provide a asetup skript that even enables NS autostart on boot. The skript is directed to a PI setup but at least gives you the things you will need to consider. As for mounting the Sd card I did end up using google quite extensively
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 15:11
It's completely fine it's in German! That's awesome! English is a Germanic language, and even though German is more complicated than English, I'm pretty sure that I can get a decent translation going back and forth with things!
I will PM @SandraK82 about this! Thank you so much!
Also, do you know if the Explorer board, that is on pre-order...does it have an SD card slot that I can use? I know that's kind of a dumb question, but want to minimize space. I ultimately want a minimalistic, completely offline system, for at least some of the time. It would make issues less complicated when I have to hand over my medical care to other people.
@C-Ville I can work on @SandraK82 's setup script to make it work in Ubilinux...
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 15:14
I think I found my issue, on my phone I had the API Upload (REST) set to https://API_SECRET@<sitename>.herokuapp.com/api/v1/ not https://API_SECRET@<sitename>.herokuapp.com/api/v1
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 15:15
I didnt think the explorer board had a sd card
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 15:19
@C-Ville , also...is there a way to PUSH the data from the local NS site (from a local MongoDB)...to upload to like another MongoDB in the cloud, given tethering works on the Edison running local NS...that is connected to my phone, either via WiFI hotspot or (theoretically) Bluetooth/BLE?
C-Ville
@C-Ville
Oct 28 2016 15:23
@diabeticgonewild I am still looking for a solution to sync my local mongoDB with a cloud DB, but so far I have not yet found a solution
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 15:25

@C-Ville Thanks! I will definitely look at finding a way to do this, and I will keep you updated!

I'm almost 100% certain the explorer board doesn't have an micro-SD card, which is completely OK! Will just carry another Edison around with me, which isn't terrible.

I ordered like 4 Explorer boards...
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 15:31

@C-Ville did you look into this as a "MongoDB update/sync database" option?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7232461/how-can-i-transfer-a-mongodb-database-to-another-machine-that-cannot-see-the-fir

Hope this is useful....

@C-Ville actually this would be more useful...but put it in like as a cron job

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21303456/migrate-mongodb-database-from-localhost-to-remote-servers

albertotrg
@albertotrg
Oct 28 2016 15:43
Thanks @garykidd ! So any 712 is loopable? Doesn't It matter its firmware version (even a fw greater than 2.4)?
Colin Lennon
@colinlennon
Oct 28 2016 15:43
Does Jubilinux need more space than Yocto? I've got mongodb running on Yocto using the Edison's internal storage, although I don't know if there would be enough for NS as well. It lets me loop offline and I just use the pebble tools for offline visualisation.
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 15:48
@colinlennon As a ZIP file, Yocto for Edison is 285 MB. Jubilinux is 635 MB as a ZIP file. I just checked these data sizes. Obviously uncompressed, the size of both of these files increases exponentially. It is safe to assume that Jubilinux takes up significantly more room than Yocto.
Sandra Keßler
@SandraK82
Oct 28 2016 15:52
@diabeticgonewild the mongorestore / dump is always the complete database. You would need to add appropriate diff procedure to transmit only the delta between two exports. Like make first export, copy to remote server, move file aside. Next time make export, diff export to moved file, transfer diff, to server, apply diff to last file. And of course move the latest export aside for next cycle
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 16:00
@albertotrg pretty sure you'll never see a x12 model pump (or a x15 or x22) with newer non-loopable firmware. But if in doubt, you can always check for PC Connect under utilities. If that's present, it won't be loopable.
albertotrg
@albertotrg
Oct 28 2016 16:07
Thanks @scottleibrand!I'll ask the seller about the PC Connect, if not present, I'll take the 712 since I got plenty of 3ml reservoirs
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Oct 28 2016 16:07
@SandraK82 I imagine the info is sparse on doing that, especially via Googling. But, I can certainly figure it out given your intructions!
Gotta code this stuff! :D
Sandra Keßler
@SandraK82
Oct 28 2016 16:10
I'm missing some informations regarding the bson format used by mongodb to provide better instructions. Maybe I will find the time to look it up and provide a concrete diff implementation that can be used
PieterGit
@PieterGit
Oct 28 2016 16:14

I'm trying to setup https://github.com/mddub/pancreabble to show CGM stuff on the pebble, but I get

$ openaps use pebble notify "hello" "testing"
usage: openaps-use pebble [-h] USAGE ...
openaps-use pebble: error: argument USAGE: invalid choice: 'notify' (choose from 'shell')

$ openaps use pebble -h
usage: openaps-use pebble [-h] USAGE ...

optional arguments:
  -h, --help  show this help message and exit

## Device pebble:
  vendor openaps.vendors.process

  process - a fake vendor to run arbitrary commands



  USAGE       Usage Details
    shell     run a process in a subshell

Anybody got a clue how to get pancreabble to work?

Colin Lennon
@colinlennon
Oct 28 2016 17:07
@diabeticgonewild Thanks! I'll probably use Yocto for my Explorer rig then, I've had very few problems with it.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Oct 28 2016 17:16
Ok, so in the last 2 days, I've had to hard-reset my rig 3-4 times. This is WAY outside of the norm. Has anyone ever found a TI stick to start getting less reliable or just...go bad?
Sandra Keßler
@SandraK82
Oct 28 2016 17:20
@Spazholio it seems there are some bad ones. Mine for example... locks up every few days and has terrible range.. I have ordered two more to check if it is an error on my end or really the ti
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Oct 28 2016 17:21
My range is good, it's just that it seems to be failing more and more often. I'll be keeping a close eye on it. Although, it MAY have been failing more earlier and I never knew - I just got the Pushover notifications for OpenAPS working the way I like.
Kelly Watson
@kellyisworking
Oct 28 2016 17:45
ALL IN NYC AREA - We're planning an OpenAPS/Loop meetup in Manhattan in November/early December in Tribeca/Soho or potentially Union Square area. Looking at week of November 14-19 or December 2/3. To those traveling in the area - Do you prefer a Saturday? It will be informal and open to all. If anyone has something they'd like to discuss/see specifically, please share!
taylorfowler
@taylorfowler
Oct 28 2016 18:19
Saturday or Sunday Either of those weekends works for me
Shot you an email Kelly
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 18:29
@Spazholio I'm still looking to confirm and will follow up here...but My range seems to seriously degrade when actually recharging---am thinking that this may be cause by heat xfer to ti stick from charger circuit.
fiberfan
@fiberfan
Oct 28 2016 18:37
The battery low alarm on my 722 didnt wake me up and so when i did wake up I spent a frustrating 15 minutes trying the usually less reliable carelink and restarting the pi and was considering buying a preflashed T1 when i looked at the pump to see the low battery alarm. Time to update ns to show pump battery. At least this occurred when my basal rates kept me in my pre cgm range - 100-130 because of almost no awareness of lows.
Matthew Williams
@mwilliams
Oct 28 2016 18:55
Phew - why is getting a newer version of npm being such a pain on my RPi2? Just hangs and hangs trying to grab latest (with npm itself, from the v1.x from apt)
@kellyisworking I'm in! Tentatively anyway :) - I can hop on the metro north in Poughkeepsie into the city. I should have my explorer board by then - would be fun to have a little meetup on the northeast!
@kellyisworking And I suspect Saturday would work best
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:10
Evening all, on my third attempt to get APS up and running and what a difference the new docs have made for those of us who aren't familiar with coding.
I have managed to get it looping on a test pump but on nightscout the openaps is showing as "unknown". I can't see any reference to this in the guidance docs. Any tips please?
Kelly Watson
@kellyisworking
Oct 28 2016 19:13
great! @mwilliams @taylorfowler
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:13
Glad to hear docs are helping @joannestevens ! :)
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:14
Fantastic @danamlewis thanks vey much
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:14
Try refreshing NS, etc. as a starter. @emsamom may have some other tips, I can't remember what all she tried when fixing that at startup.
Matthew Williams
@mwilliams
Oct 28 2016 19:15
My Edison just arrived in the mail. I just got it solo, no breakout board, need to wait for the explorer board to ship before I can get the dev environment setup for openaps, but wow, it's a lot smaller than I was expecting, even after seeing many photos
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 19:16
:-D
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:23
Thanks @danamlewis , I have tried that but to no avail. Still looping anyway :)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:24
Is other OpenAPS data getting to NS? Are temp basals being visualized?
Matthew Williams
@mwilliams
Oct 28 2016 19:26
That's what I'm working on right now. Fresh loop from the setup script of the dev branch of oref0, getting openaps/pump status/glucose data to NS. Currently only temp basal rates are being reported.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:28
i’m on iffy wifi so can’t search, but wondering if you can look back to earlier this week or last week when a few other people had this. I think it magically started working later, but not sure if there’s anything else that needs to be trouble shooted to get it to work…or if it takes a few runs of the loop before it uploads?
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:28
Yes in the form of annotated dots? Or at least they were a couple of hours ago
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:29
in the form of the basal rendering, the blue line above the cgm graph. you may need to go into care portal settings and turn on basal rendering to see that i fyou weren’t already
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 19:29
@kellyisworking Will have to check but may be able to attend.
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:30
Ahh no I don't have that
Kelly Watson
@kellyisworking
Oct 28 2016 19:30
@garykidd that would be great!
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 19:30
are you in Soho then?
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:32
Apologies @danamlewis do I do that on NS?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:32
@joannestevens correct. care portal settings, look for “render basal"
Kelly Watson
@kellyisworking
Oct 28 2016 19:33
@garykidd In tribeca - but looking at locations
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:34
@kellyisworking lmk when you pick time/date/location, I can put together a whoozin for you to post so people can rsvp and you don’t have to keep track of everyone individually
Kelly Watson
@kellyisworking
Oct 28 2016 19:34
will do @danamlewis :thumbsup: Thanks
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:35
@danamlewis where do I find the care portal settings. Its in there as a plug in
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 19:46
I work in midtown--might be able to book a conference room...will have to check about access to building over weekend..but also its in midtown.
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:50
Thanks @danamlewis, can now see the TBR but still seeing "unknown"
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:50
progress! and good to know you do have data going correctly to NS
and you’ve tried refreshing NS web page? how long has it been since that pump started looping?
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:51
Thanks so much, I am sooo excited :)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:51
(asking questions to help narrow down what it might be/what the time frame might be for the pill to work)
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:51
@danamlewis about 4 hours
Matthew Williams
@mwilliams
Oct 28 2016 19:52
@joannestevens What CGM? Also, did you follow these instructions: https://openaps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/docs/walkthrough/phase-2/oref0-setup.html? It was indicated to me that glucose data might not yet be going to NS in the dev branch. This is what I'm running, I'm getting bolus events, temp basal rates, but no glucose data with my enlite CGM
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:53
I am using an xdrip and G4
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 19:53
we need one of you to configure NS uploads using the ns device and export your config so we can update oref0-setup to use it
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 19:53
worried the excitement is gonna fade but right now things are pretty..well...exciting.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:53
@garykidd :)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 19:54
until then, troubleshooting ns-upload is a waste of time IMO
Matthew Williams
@mwilliams
Oct 28 2016 19:54
@scottleibrand I'd be happy to help with a few pointers, but this is what NS is looking like for me out of the box with the new setup script on the dev branch (and setup branch): http://i.imgur.com/Lg3xGNo.png
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 19:54
@mwilliams you're just missing glucose data it looks like
Matthew Williams
@mwilliams
Oct 28 2016 19:54
Yep, and pump info/openaps info
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 19:55
@mwilliams - I have my glucose data
Matthew Williams
@mwilliams
Oct 28 2016 19:55
@joannestevens oh well then, you're on step ahead :P
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 19:56
take a look at the docs' section on manually setting up ns uploads
mwilliams @mwilliams looks
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 19:56
that details the steps that need to be taken to do it right
I think it might have details on formatting MDT glucose data for looping, but not sure if it has anything on uploading it
I know some people have managed it, but not sure if they ever documented it outside of gitter
garykidd
@garykidd
Oct 28 2016 19:57
@scottleibrand the problem I was having with DS3 led flashing after relatively short periods of charging through j16 on edison breakout board...well for seemingly no reason...it hasnt re-appeared...and I left it plugged in over night and it was still charging in the AM....not sure what it was...but I'll take it...maybe some kind of breakin for the cells?
Matthew Williams
@mwilliams
Oct 28 2016 19:58
where specifically in the docs?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 19:58
@mwilliams I’ll have :confetti_ball: waiting if you make progress on this :) also @tghoward or others may be able to help/give pointers since they’ve been using Enlite at some point, too
Kelly Watson
@kellyisworking
Oct 28 2016 20:04
@garykidd awesome! :smile: Looks like we're getting lots of space offers for nyc meetup. Whoop. Once I hear from a few others through the weekend about date, I'll reach back out. (so far looks like saturdays Nov 19th or Dec 3rd work best)
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 20:19
How key is it to swap from Azure to Heroku?
David
@david-t1
Oct 28 2016 20:52
what is wrong with Azure? is it no longer free?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 20:53
the free tier has usage limits that are too low for most loopers without special effort to restrict openaps' NS interaction
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 20:53
the docs say that the free version of Azure can hit the data limit I think it was.
yeah so the docs say to use heroku
and get the 7 a month plan
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Oct 28 2016 20:55
I'm not being charged anything for azure, not sure why others hit limits
ah, I don't pull all my glucose readings from there
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 20:56
and on that note, I am reading the docs and at I am getting close to the end of the nightscout-setup and it is asking me to check my version on my nightscout site. Anyone know how to do that on Heroku?
"Next, on your Nightscout website, go to the Settings (3 horizontal bars) in the upper right corner. At the very bottom of the Settings menu, in the “About” section, you may check the Nightscout version (e.g. version 0.9.0-dev). "
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Oct 28 2016 20:58
@david-t1, there is note in the docs advising to change as below:If you plan to use Nightscout to vizualize a production OpenAPS instance, we recommend using the $7/mo Heroku plans, as OpenAPS’ can reach the usage limits of the free Azure plan and cause it to shut down for hours or days.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 20:59
@diabetic_dude_twitter that instruction is the same for azure or heroku. you do it on your NS site itself
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 21:01
@scottleibrand I have the mlab set up and the heroku, what is the nighscout site? is that my gitgub fork?
David
@david-t1
Oct 28 2016 21:03
re Heroku for NS, all good to know. I will first try offline via openxshareble but I am skeptical this will prove reliable enough. Seems like most either plug in dex or use NS
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 21:04
@diabetic_dude_twitter your actual NS web page. the one that displays your BG data
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 21:08
@scottleibrand then it is not my github, not my mlab not my heroku but another site that I have missed in the directions?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 21:09
it’s your URL for your nightscout site http://yourwebsite.azurewebsites.net for example
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 21:11
this is what is driving me nuts! then I can only assume my site should be https://in10cgm.herokuapp.com/ but it shows no data. Is there another site I need or is that it?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 21:13
if that’s the URL you picked, that should be it, but you’re not quite there yet. I’m not sure where you are in the instructions, but for basic NS setup Qs, it would be good to ask in the CGM In The Cloud Facebook group, as that’s where the NS support team hangs out
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 21:13
Thank you @danamlewis
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 21:14
:+1:
once you get CGM data flowing to NS, we should be able to help troubleshoot everything else related to OpenAPS setups
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 21:14
the data is showing up in my mlab db @danamlewis
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 21:15
(I haven’t set up a NS in 5,487,350 days, give or take, so that’s why I’m not any help with the basic setup)
Diabetic_Dude
@diabetic_dude_twitter
Oct 28 2016 21:16
@danamlewis I understand and thank you for pointing me in the correct direction
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 21:21
:) :+1:
@garykidd you may have some suggestions on how to accomplish this PR, since I (believe) you’ve been working on wifi issues: openaps/docs#412
Tom Boudreau
@TomBoudr_twitter
Oct 28 2016 21:33
Q for my own edification... Do people with G5's use NS? Is it necessary since you can share CGM data in the offical G5 app?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 21:33
A lot still do, so you can pull in pump data and use other features
Depends on your use case, of course
Tom Boudreau
@TomBoudr_twitter
Oct 28 2016 21:35
right...its just so fragile
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 21:47
@jessiepusateri re: preferred setup - Pi + Carelink is what’s most documented now. TI greatly improves range. BUT…the explorer boards are about to ship, so I recommend considering doing an Edison/Explorer Board rig, that has TI built in and is pretty easy to setup.
So preferred rig setup answer depends on timing - i.e. if you want to order and have something this weekend to start with vs. ok waiting a few weeks for an explorer board to start
@TomBoudr_twitter take a look at the docs now, they’ve changed a ton since you last glanced at them, esp. this phase 0 ;) http://openaps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/docs/walkthrough/phase-0/hardware/hardware.html and then phase 2 for setup process
Jessie Pusateri
@jessiepusateri
Oct 28 2016 21:49
@danamlewis Awesome, what's the ordering process for Explorer Boards?
may also want to check out this page that describes what else you’ll need to order separately (Edison, small battery): http://openaps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/docs/walkthrough/phase-0/hardware/edison.html#explorer-board-or-another-base-board
Jessie Pusateri
@jessiepusateri
Oct 28 2016 21:51
@danamlewis Sweet! Thanks! :D
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 21:51
:+1:
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 22:02
A little meta to post the Gitter blog post about this channel in this channel, but doing it anyway :) in case folks hadn’t seen it. https://medium.com/@gitter/building-online-communities-openaps-96475c235f7e#.krn7x7voj
Kelly Watson
@kellyisworking
Oct 28 2016 22:05
:thumbsup: @danamlewis :sparkles:
tynbendad
@tynbendad
Oct 28 2016 23:14
has anyone made a minimed "driver" for AndroidAPS yet
tynbendad
@tynbendad
Oct 28 2016 23:20
btw, why did Courtney Lias in yesterday's talks, say noone from the open source community has talked to FDA yet? i thought OpenAPS was already talking to them?
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Oct 28 2016 23:20
Oof. Gitter client changed. I….don’t think I like it.
tynbendad
@tynbendad
Oct 28 2016 23:23
thanks, i didn't see that tweet :)... are they really expecting a submission from DIY open source folks? that seems odd
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 23:23
not necessarily a submission, but a pre-submission is how they start tracking their time
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 23:24
Pre-submissions, yes.
But you have to physically mail a usb stick which is silly
tynbendad
@tynbendad
Oct 28 2016 23:29
what do they expect a pre-submission for? is anyone really planning on doing one for OpenAPS?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 23:30
It's about saying what we want to talk to them about
It's not about submitting anything for approval
It's literally a request via snail mail for a phone call to chat about some topic
tynbendad
@tynbendad
Oct 28 2016 23:30
ah, ok.. they just need to fit all pegs in to their round holes/bureacracy
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 23:31
Yep
Eric
@ecc1
Oct 28 2016 23:31
Hmm, mailing a USB stick sounds like a great way to pwn the FDA ...
tynbendad
@tynbendad
Oct 28 2016 23:31
lol
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 23:32
Jokes like that is why they make you mail things and don't accept email attachments
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 23:32
Friends don't let friends insert random usb sticks.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 23:33
it does bring up a good point, though. you're less likely to get infected by a non-executable email attachment than by sticking a USB stick into your PC
Darrell Wright
@beached
Oct 28 2016 23:34
USB has full access to system ram and buses. It is not secure in any way
The chipsets are not good
Kevin Marshall
@ruess
Oct 28 2016 23:46
Just learned about the androidaps project - can anyone fill me in who’s tried it? is it similar to HAPP wherein it’s open but almost closed, or is it fully closed at this point?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 23:48
https://gitter.im/MilosKozak/AndroidAPS is probably more active than https://gitter.im/timomer/HAPP at this point, with Tim moving house
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Oct 28 2016 23:50
Tim is working on a minimed driver from what I understand. A couple of us have offered ourselves up as testers.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 28 2016 23:51
it's also quite a bit newer, and follows our https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a_Km1KeCkSRCMihUgkvWOnLYBHOTFVq_Px12fKNsQCw/edit?usp=sharing approach to Making a safe OpenAPS mobile app
Kevin Marshall
@ruess
Oct 28 2016 23:53
Seems like he’s got it to communicate with a DanaR pump - I’m not familiar with this pump, but i wonder if it’s a new pump that he’s gotten it to send commands to?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 28 2016 23:53
it’s not available in the US, but available elsewhere in the world, and yes