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Feb 2017
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 07 2017 00:01
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These are some conepts of the case i want to build
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Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 00:03
@danamlewis yes, I'll test the master upgrade instructions tonight.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 00:24
:+1: thx
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 00:57
@danamlewis here is the log
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Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 00:59
cd myopenaps and openaps alias invoke monitor/iob.json
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:02
usage: openaps-alias [-h] {add,remove,show} ...
openaps-alias: error: argument action: invalid choice: 'invoke' (choose from 'add', 'remove', 'show')
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:04
report instead of alias - openaps report invoke monitor/iob.json
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:06
Screen Shot 2017-02-06 at 8.05.57 PM.png
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:07
try the same thing with settings/profile.json next
openaps report invoke settings/profile.json
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:09
Screen Shot 2017-02-06 at 8.08.05 PM.png
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 01:09
you messed up your preferences.json?
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:09
I am guessing I messed something up with the preferences?
lol jinx
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:10
good troubleshooting :) nano preferences.json (or cat preferences.json to see without editing)
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:10
is it supposed to have an i before the { cause if not I am thinking I found the issue
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:11
ah, no - you probably have a stray i from insert mode
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:11
yeah that is what I figured
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:11
delete, escape :wq to save and quit, and then see logs again
:+1:
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:12
yeah I did that
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:12
cool. you can wait, or run something manually to kick start
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:12
well of course now she is in ???
stupid G5
but looks like that was it
thanks
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:13
boo for ??? but yay for fixing!
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:14
like whack a mole. Fix something, break something else
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:14
lol. yea. but way more satisfying when you whack the last one and it works a long time without breaking :)
Kate Farnsworth
@ELUTE
Feb 07 2017 01:15
well I made it 5 minutes before breaking it the last time so time will tell
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 01:29
@danamlewis The directions at https://github.com/openaps/docs/blob/b7a60bd9580b7b942b70673a7b7a8a41a562c549/docs/docs/walkthrough/phase-2/update-your-rig.md didn't work for me. When I get to step 2, it says no such file or directory. So I looked in my "myopenaps" folder and there's no oref0-runagain.sh there.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:30
ahhh, so you haven’t run setup since you updated, so you’ll just have to run manually
then in future you can run-again.sh
I’ll clarify, thanks!
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 01:32
Right, I just did step 1 followed by step 2. When would I have run setup?
that’s step 2
but I forgot that if you updated, run-again.sh won’t fill until the first time running the setup script the traditional way
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 01:34
@bdr1177 the problem is that we only recently added the thing that writes out the runagain stuff. since you originally ran oref0-setup before then, you don't have it yet. so you need to re-run oref0-setup and re-answer all the questions one more time.
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 01:34
Got it. Do I need to crontab -ror is that taken care of?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:35
it should be prompting you to delete cron at the end of setup script now :) so you don’t have to do that separately
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 01:36
Okay. Also, is sudo necessary in step one if I'm root on the edison?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 01:37
sudo is not needed, but it won't hurt
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 07 2017 01:38
I have a line on a couple pumps, a 722 and a 723, but want to make sure the firmware is ok. A couple questions:
  1. What is the firmware version after 2.4A?
  2. When was that version released?
  3. What versions were before the 2.4A? Is there a plain 2.4 that would be ok?
    Does anyone have any of this info? TIA!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:39
  1. usually it jumps to 2.6, but there’s probably 2.5s out there - avoid those
2 - we don’t know
3 - 2.4 is fine
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 07 2017 01:40
@danamlewis Thanks ... I'm just worried that they aren't very detail oriented and are telling me the version is 2.4 when in fact it could be a 2.4B or 2.4C or something.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:40
I’ve never seen that
if it’s 2.4, it should be fine
but ask for “PC Connect” check - under utilities->Connect Devices
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 07 2017 01:41
Ok, perfect. Thank you!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:41
if it’s missing, that’s the best way to confirm along w/ firmware that it’s likely compatible
pc connect = no looping
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 07 2017 01:42
I did, but the answer was less than comforting! :smile: I'll see if I can establish some voice communication and feel them out a little more.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:44
if they don’t want to get on phone w/ you, you could also ask of a video of the pump with them putting a fresh battery in, showing it boot up w/ the firmware screen, navigating it to utilities->connect devices and showing there’s no pc connect there
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 07 2017 01:45
Good idea. I'll try that.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 01:46
@bdr1177 @Kdisimone ok, updated that page and it’s now in the docs: http://openaps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/docs/walkthrough/phase-2/update-your-rig.html more PRs always welcome, but better than nothing :) as it was
jburke41
@jburke41
Feb 07 2017 02:04
Third light on exploer board is now flashing and won't connect UART port. Has anyone seen this? https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/16652667_696269130581666_1467596982_n.jpg?oh=853161b342b58f60f691ca957d466654&oe=589B7312
Keeps saying cannot exec '/dev/ttyUSB0': No such file directory
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 02:16
@danamlewis I ran the setup again, which went fine. I know it worked because the preferences.json was overwritten. But when I went to run oref0-runagain.sh, I get the same error (no such file)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 02:18
hmm, run npm list -g oref0 to check your oref0 version?
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 02:22
Sorry I already moved on to rerunning the setup and I see oref0 4.0, so I'm assuming it's correct now. I'll confirm after the setup.
And this time it worked since I see the oref0-runagain.sh in my directory. Don't know what the glitch was the first time. I did notice that the first time I ran it didn't ask me the us vs. ww question I got the second time.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 02:31
which method did you select for upgrading the first time? the recommended or optional method?
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 02:37
recommended
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 02:37
k. will have to see if anyone else has that problem.
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 02:41
Autosens question. We have two very different ISF settings for day and night. Will autosens work for that situation, or does it assume one ISF like autotune?
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 07 2017 03:07
@peterfulvi that looks great!
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 07 2017 03:12
Thanks the first one just shipped today from Florida I would like to submit a PR when I'm sure it fits good. Now I'm just waiting for a pump😖
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 03:15
@bdr1177 I am not sure if we ever properly tested autosens with multiple different ISFs across the day. I recall @sulkaharo getting some fixes in for that, so it might work ok, but I'm not sure.
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 03:17
Ok. Maybe I'll test this weekend and see what I get.
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 03:34
If no advanced setting are selected during initial setup, running oref0-runagain.shdoesn't seem that useful because without the prompts it is not obvious how one would edit the script to add in the advanced options. In my case, since I don't know what to add to the script to enable the advanced settings, I'd just have to go run the script from scratch again anyway.
Or maybe I'm missing something?
sounds like a PR needed to clarify that parenthetical
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Feb 07 2017 03:36
Yeah, that's the section I'm looking at. But I wouldn't know how to add AMA to the script without getting the prompt.
Do you mean a PR that just clarifies that you need to know how to write the advanced options into the script for it to work as intended?
Sacha M
@coolestkidsever
Feb 07 2017 03:50
@woodtrevor thanks! will check out that troubleshooting page
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 07 2017 04:41
I have a question…seems like the rig is getting one pump read and then not looping again. Anyone familiar with this message from pump log. (sorry remotely helping a mom trying to take care of kid bed time…so screenshot will have to do right now)
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looks like this may be the problem of times not being in sync…and if it is, what’s the remedy?
jmcrawford
@jmcrawford
Feb 07 2017 04:43
I'm a Time Traveller:
jmcrawford commented 2 minutes from now
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 07 2017 04:43
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Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 04:44
@Kdisimone was this a previously working rig?
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 07 2017 04:45
yes
for a week
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 04:45
also running Loop? or just openaps
something is interfering with pump comms
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 07 2017 04:45
only openaps
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 04:45
may want to do a killall then
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 07 2017 04:46
killall ?
(I’m going to docs)
killall -g openaps?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 04:47
maybe try just shutting the rig completely down and turn it back on
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 07 2017 04:47
did that
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 04:47
there are some fixes in the latest mmeowlink for this kind of thing, if you want to check your mmeowlink version...
pip show mmeowlink
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 07 2017 04:51
mmeowlink v 0.10.1
and after an hour of really spotty mostly-off…looping just came back on line.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 04:59
did you end up doing the killall? or did it resolve before then?
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 07 2017 05:02
resolved before the killall
any thoughts what those errors pointed too? interference in house (she did have an awful time with the RL needing LOTS of retuning at her house previously)? was it a time sync issue? Combination of many things?
jmcrawford
@jmcrawford
Feb 07 2017 05:20
There was talk of some work being done to update the Pancreabble process - did anything come of that? The mddub page hasn't changed in a while, is there another doc?
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 07 2017 05:22
(dang….i will never be that fast with the links)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 05:23
Faster you will become, one day. :smile:
jmcrawford
@jmcrawford
Feb 07 2017 05:27
:)
Jarred Yaw
@jyaw
Feb 07 2017 05:34
I just ran through most of the pancreabble setup on my pi 2... took some notes. Will have to do a PR some other time though. I think there are some pi-specific steps for bluez that are missing from the setup script
also... it wants a glucose-unzoned.json report that isn't being produced for whatever reason, so I'm still looking into that.
woodtrevor
@woodtrevor
Feb 07 2017 06:31
@coolestkidsever That page doesn't have a concrete example of what to put in your cron (yet). But it does have suggestions for what you need to do. Shout if you need any help getting it set up.
samihusseingit
@samihusseingit
Feb 07 2017 06:53
so we use a DIA of 3 hours for our son who is 4 years old. This was recommended by our doctor. On closed loop, yesterday we were -.27 IOB, so you would thing he wouldn't go down...but he continued to go down..
any ideas?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 07:02
IOB can get quite negative before BGI (insulin activity * ISF) turns positive, if you had a big bolus and then the loop had to low temp a lot. Even with a 3h DIA, it takes 60-90 minutes for insulin activity to peak.
And usually when you have something causing BG to drop unexpectedly so you need low temped, that negative deviation will continue even after BGI goes positive, and BG will continue to slowly drop until it gets high enough to overcome the deviation.
samihusseingit
@samihusseingit
Feb 07 2017 07:04
@scottleibrand I had to give him a bolus to get him down quick...the thing is loop was not getting him down..he stayed high 13 for an hour..
I gave up on the loop and bolused right away to get himd own quick..
he has the flu..and openAPS is not able to handle his resistence
we do have autosense enabled
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 07:11
Bolusing in that situation is fine, but if you overcorrect it'll have to zero temp a lot, until BG eventually comes back up.
samihusseingit
@samihusseingit
Feb 07 2017 07:12
It did do that :) after a long while
:)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 07:12
Is autosens maxing out its resistance detection with a 0.7 ratio?
samihusseingit
@samihusseingit
Feb 07 2017 07:12
I don't know what you mean :) forgive me
but we noticed that loop is very polite and not aggressive at all :)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 07:12
Can you see how much it's adjusting ISF?
OpenAPS displays that in the pump-loop.log: not sure where AAPS shows it.
samihusseingit
@samihusseingit
Feb 07 2017 07:13
no, I don't see that in aaps at all. I looked at the openaps tab but nothing
perhaps in the log file..I can look at it tonight..
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 07:14
Need to find the determine-basal output.
If autosens is detecting the resistance, it should be reducing ISF and increasing basals by 20%
samihusseingit
@samihusseingit
Feb 07 2017 07:15
ok, assuming its maxing out..how would I go about in making it more agressive now that is he is very insulin resistant
Roumen Georgiev
@PoweRGbg
Feb 07 2017 07:15
For me autosens in AAPS isn't working as intended
samihusseingit
@samihusseingit
Feb 07 2017 07:15
oh i see..so its not just me.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 07:16
Probably should take this to the AAPS channel then.
samihusseingit
@samihusseingit
Feb 07 2017 07:16
will do :)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 07:16
This was a good place for the general discussion though.
Sacha M
@coolestkidsever
Feb 07 2017 07:17
@woodtrevor I ran oref0-reset-usb which resolved it, but unsure how to set it up as a cron job - and must have missed the section on model - so just hunting that out now
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Feb 07 2017 07:22
I re-ran the set up on a new card last night but this time I have set up blue tooth tethering for my pi. NS is now not with any Openaps data just by BG. Any idea what I might have done wrong?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 07:33
@joannestevens check your NS.ini go make sure you got URL and API secret correct, etc
woodtrevor
@woodtrevor
Feb 07 2017 07:51
@coolestkidsever openaps use pump model from your myopenaps directory. Then pipe the output of that command to grep to search for the text that gets printed when those errors occur. 'AckError', etc. crontab - e to edit your cron file and add the new command once you have it working. This tries to communicate with the pump to detect the error which is not ideal but it works. I'm working on some changes to search the log instead since the errors are already in there.
woodtrevor
@woodtrevor
Feb 07 2017 07:56
The syntax can get a little hairy when chaining a bunch of commands together. But you'll see some examples of how it works in your cron file when you look in there.
Sacha M
@coolestkidsever
Feb 07 2017 08:00
I think i broke it.. prior to this, I modified the prefernces.json to edit the max basal. When i now look at the log theres a model error "Pump object has no attribute Model".. i had this the other day and restarted the setup, but it's happened agian. Did I miss a step about pump/model that I can't find?
woodtrevor
@woodtrevor
Feb 07 2017 08:05
It will recover from that error. That means the pump was out of range and it couldn't communicate.
Sacha M
@coolestkidsever
Feb 07 2017 08:06
oh, is that all! haha.
Sacha M
@coolestkidsever
Feb 07 2017 08:11
@woodtrevor i think i probably don't know enough yet to be able to put it together fully (I kind of understand but don't know enough about the syntax to successfully implement/check). But in the meantime - i know that I can manually run the 0ref command to reset the usb, ta.
woodtrevor
@woodtrevor
Feb 07 2017 08:12
:smile: I'm turning in. But let me know if you need more help making progress. I should be able to login to my rig later and get a better example of what I'm doing. Tricky on a phone...
Sacha M
@coolestkidsever
Feb 07 2017 08:16
@woodtrevor thanks, I'm going to call it a night too. will try again tomorrow :-)
csibenightscout
@csibenightscout
Feb 07 2017 08:30
Hi, I am about to start building an openaps. To start with I need a compatible pump. First option is 512 with some limitation. Can someone explain what are these limitations? Does this only mean that initially I have to manually create some json config files? Are there any limitation in later everyday usage? I don't mind additional manual work in the beginning, but going forward I want to be as automated as possilble. Any suggestions which pump to get?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 08:37
Correct - slightly manual config. And only at the beginning. But if you can find it, x22 or x23 generally preferred. I recommend any you find that you can send temp basals to ;) so you can loop.
Paul Tinson
@ptinson
Feb 07 2017 09:02
@scottleibrand just wondering if you had a chance to try out the vpn script
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 11:08
@danamlewis @scottleibrand @tim2000s I'm glad to confirm my bt stuff is working on my eddie-eb , don't know why is was not working on my breakout-board-eddie, but anyway.
So that's great for my super tiny eb rig, no need to rely on my mobile router :star2: switching between bt and wifi works as designed :tada:
jburke41
@jburke41
Feb 07 2017 12:48
Is there anywhere else you can buy the explorer board besides hamsield? They are currently out
Sandra Keßler
@SandraK82
Feb 07 2017 13:04
we are looking in providing it within the eu @jburke41
tepidjuice
@tepidjuice
Feb 07 2017 13:08
Anyone know an Australian retailer or an international retailer, with cheap shipping, where I can buy the low power edison 1-EDI2.LPON?
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 13:21
mouser.com might be able to offer a lpon @tepidjuice
tepidjuice
@tepidjuice
Feb 07 2017 13:28
@ceben80 yep they've got it. Do you know if the one from sparkfun is SPON?
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 13:31
Mostly spon to 90% I guess
tepidjuice
@tepidjuice
Feb 07 2017 13:34
thanks.
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 13:38
:+1:
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 14:30
due to different networks (bt|wifi) I am not able to ssh with hostname neither eddie-eb nor with eddie-eb.local (eddie-eb is the hostname of the rig), any advise is appreciated. It's really a pain using IPs insteed of a hostname, but as said, hostname doesn't work for ssh as well for API upload (used for xdrip offline)
kws1969
@kws1969
Feb 07 2017 14:37
As a last ditch effort before I give up on this I'm thinking I'll try to flash my Edison from my pie-3. One question do I hook the pi and Edison together instead of hooking to Mac?
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 07 2017 14:39
@ceben80 I've got a DNS server set-up to test. Will let you know how I get on.
🎉🎉🎉 on the mini-rig!
kws1969
@kws1969
Feb 07 2017 14:40
I've tried to restore yocto and it just freezes, I've tried all the troubleshooting steps and it freezes. I've even went to intel and followed all the troubleshooting steps. The screen will never wake up. 😡😂
Could my Mac have caused this? I even went and bought another Edison and same thing happened to it
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 14:42
Would be great @tim2000s :+1:
kws1969
@kws1969
Feb 07 2017 14:43
Is there anyone that can help? I will pay on PayPal. Lol
Please
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 07 2017 14:50
@kws1969 Yes. You ssh onto the Pi, hook the Pi to the Edison via USB cables and off you go.
kws1969
@kws1969
Feb 07 2017 14:56
Ok will try now.
zekeat09
@zekeat09
Feb 07 2017 15:07
@scottleibrand Thanks for help. I tried new cables and my Mac got bring up the screen once. Then i fail to flash my edison with Jubilinux. Finally, i managed to use Pi to flash edison to Ubilinux. Can rest now and start setting next time. Once again, thank you.
Paul Martin
@Spazholio
Feb 07 2017 15:35
So if I wanted to get something 3D printed - who does everyone recommend? Sculpteo is right out, but I'd love to hear about any other places you've used with good results, if possible.
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 07 2017 16:08
Anyone here running oref0-setup with medtronic cgm on either the latest master release or dev? If so, are you getting trend arrows in nightscout?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 17:16
@ptinson didn't get to the VPN stuff yesterday. will try today.
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 07 2017 17:23
@cjo20 I wasn't getting tend arrows in Nightscout on the previous version.
*trend
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 07 2017 17:25
Hello! I'm looking for some tips regarding taking my rig on an airplane. I haven't tried looping offline or anything yet, I'm mainly focused on taking it through security and on the plane and such. Anybody have any suggestions, tips, or warnings for me? :)
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 07 2017 17:26
@tim2000s I know you wont have been getting it with the previous version, because I hadn't added it then
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 17:33
Re rigs and airports, just put it in your bag and let it go through X-ray. It's a small computer. Never had any issues, even when I traveled with multiple rigs, and even internationally.
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 07 2017 17:38
@danamlewis thanks!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 17:43
:+1: and get precheck, regardless of looping it saves a lot of time and angst.
joannestevens
@joannestevens
Feb 07 2017 17:48
Thanks @danamlewis, not sure what I had done but I ran crontab again and I am back up and running
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 17:52
@joannestevens k
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 18:29
Happy my eddie-eb is running stable with bt tethering :tada: :star2:
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 18:30
@ceben80 your other rig that you talked about issues, was it newly flashed? Or just none-eb? The "newly flashed" seems to be the differentiator somehow.
But :+1: :smile: yay for tethering automatically! Can't believe we went so long without that.
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 18:31
Good q....I think re-flashed due to the bt issues :smile:
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 18:33
Ya. I think that's what we all had to do. Easy enough.
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 18:33
But the eb was newly flashed a couple of days ago....made too much dev stuff :smile:
....all for science
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 18:40
;)
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 19:18
@danamlewis the power consumption is certainly an interesting point bt tethering vs. wifi operating, which method will last longer
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 19:19
Bluetooth is way more power efficient on the phone side at least
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 19:27
With wifi my eddie-eb, 1000mA lipo lasts around 7 hours, will run tomorrow only with bt...I'm curious about the result
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 07 2017 19:35
On that note, I was thinking about offline control. My chroot Linux experiment didn't work last night due to local Bluetooth issues, however, you can access the Linux install via IP with no issues. I was just that that maybe I could setup an NS instance on the phone in the Linux partition and have OpenAPS and the browser use it instead of NS web.
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Feb 07 2017 19:44
Bluetooth is more efficient power-wise than WiFi on the Edison, as WiFi is optimized for large data transfers.
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 07 2017 19:55
what are the differences between the 5xx's and 7xx models
Jason Wittmer
@jbwittmer
Feb 07 2017 19:57
Only difference is size of the reservoirs. 5 series are 180 units. 7 series are 300 units.
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 07 2017 19:57
great thanks for the input
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 07 2017 19:59
And as long as you are using Novolog/rapid or Humalog, it remains stable for 7-10 days In a reservoir. Apidra tends to be about 2. I like to change reservoirs less frequently so prefer a 3ml one. I'll dig out the research on that one if anyone is interested.
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 07 2017 20:04
My experience has been that insulin tends not to work as well after it has been in a reservoir for 5 days
Jason Wittmer
@jbwittmer
Feb 07 2017 20:10
Historically we used sites with some frequency up to 5 days (bare metal needle). After we started using OpenAPS for closed loop and improved our "signal to noise" ratio regarding patterns of blood sugar control I've become convinced that we see small but real deterioration in control after about 36 hours. There is some evidence to support that contention in medical literature as well. We have become considerably more diligent about site changes at 3 day intervals. Of course your milage may vary.
Luis Betancourt
@betluis
Feb 07 2017 20:14
@cjo20 I saw the arrows with my latest PI update. I liked it... thanks fot
Thanks for this
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 07 2017 20:14
:+1:
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 20:21
@jbwittmer have you experimented with changing the site but not the reservoir, to differentiate the body's reaction to the site from the changes in the insulin in the reservoir?
Luis Betancourt
@betluis
Feb 07 2017 20:27
@cjo20 specially at night. Without glasses you can quickly glance at it and have a good idea of what is going on.
@cjo20 Do you have a plan to add the edison battery status to the master some how?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 20:31
I believe that's already in master, per last week's release?
Luis Betancourt
@betluis
Feb 07 2017 20:35
Nice surprise for me! I will update our Edison rig today. Thanks!
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 20:35
:smile:
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 20:38
:+1:
Sacha M
@coolestkidsever
Feb 07 2017 20:48
Hey all, i've managed to hit my data cap on Azure today - which I assume is becuase of openAPS. Immediate fix I guess is to go onto paid plan - and then move over to Heroku? Is that my options? (Is there any others?)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 20:58
I would skip the Azure paid plan and go straight to Heroku
only other option is self-hosting, but I don't recommend that unless you already run a server.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 20:59
most people with 1 (or sometimes 2) rigs are able to do the free tier on Heroku. but even if you bump up to first paid tier of Heroku, it’s way cheaper than paid Azure.
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 07 2017 20:59
Heroku setup is pretty easy
Jason Wittmer
@jbwittmer
Feb 07 2017 20:59
@scottleibrand We have not done detailed testing in that regard. My anecdotal experience, however, suggests stability of insulin in the reservoir to 5 days but we rarely extend the use of a reservoir after changing a site unless we inadvertently discontinue a site after <48 hours. We generally replace both at the same time since we are still using a 5xx series pump and he's out of insulin after 3-4 days max
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 21:00
yeah, that seems like a good rule of thumb. would be interesting if someone wanted to do the research to see whether it's the site or the warm insulin that's causing it. I suspect it's more the site, but don't have much data.
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 07 2017 21:09
Here you go - the meta study on insulin life in pump reservoirs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3876338/
Lots of research in that one.
Sacha M
@coolestkidsever
Feb 07 2017 21:09
I thought I'd move to paid for now, as I haven't got time to move to Heroku at the moment, so will try that for a few days. Please correct me if im wrong, but first i'll need to move NS to Heroku, and then modify openAPS - or just do the move to Heroku for NS and thats all?
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 07 2017 21:10
The pertinent point:
The findings presented here suggest that rapid-acting insulin analogs are relatively resistant to degradation at high temperatures and in prolonged storage (up to 10 days with insulin aspart); nevertheless, manufacturers still stress that insulin exposed to temperatures above 37 °C should be discarded and reservoirs should be routinely changed (every 6 days for insulin aspart, 7 days for insulin lispro, and 2 days for insulin glulisine).31–33
The one thing it doesn't cover well is temperature variation of insulin and the only paper I know about on that front uses regular rather than analogue insulin, but it found essentially no change in response to temperature cycling.
But anyway, back to looping....
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 21:32
so that would leave site issues as the main thing to worry about. but like @jbwittmer mentioned, there's not a lot of point in keeping an old reservoir going if you have to change the site anyway, unless it has a bunch of insulin left in it
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 07 2017 21:38
Yes, and I run my reservoirs for 7 days as I don't use that much
So I don't change them with the sites
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Feb 07 2017 22:09
No big deal, overall
alternateal
@alternateal
Feb 07 2017 22:29
@tim2000s - I was at an IPN session a month ago and it stuck in my mind when @drpratikc made a comment about humalog lasting 4 days in vial cf novorapid lasting 7. I had never noticed an issue with humalog lasting 6 days
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 07 2017 22:56
The research would seem to back that up...!
Luis Betancourt
@betluis
Feb 07 2017 22:56
Hello.. I have an issue at home where I need a wifi repeater in order to reach all areas with WIFI. the issue with this is that the Edison keeps locked to one or the other even though it may not be the strongest network and therefore loose connectivity. Any suggestion as to how the Edison could be configured to automatically switch to the strongest network?
semccallis
@semccallis
Feb 07 2017 23:29
I am looking into getting started with OpenAPS but did not know if you needed to use a android phone or I could continue to use a IPhone.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 23:29
@semccallis no phone is part of the required setup, it’s just handy for viewing NS/logs on the go…so you’re fine w/ whatever phone you already have!
semccallis
@semccallis
Feb 07 2017 23:31
Okay and if i was wanting to have offline functionality I need to add what to my setup. I know I dont have to have it but i live in a rural area and the internet is slow at home and spotty. '
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 23:32
what type of rig are you building? Pi or Edison based? and what type of cgm?
semccallis
@semccallis
Feb 07 2017 23:36
I was thinking of Edison based but just realized that the Pi would be easier for a newbie to figure out and I have a G5. And i was going to do the MMcomander.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 23:40
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Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 07 2017 23:48
I just got a TI radio stick and need to flash it; I don't suppose anyone is in the Washington DC area and has a "programmer" I can use to do that?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 07 2017 23:48
Pi won't be as mobile, though - but if you're ok w that, it's fine. Plug CGM into Pi for easy offline. For Edison/explorer board, you can also plug in but will require a second battery for full offline capabilities.
(Pi w receiver plugged in is great at home overnight offline solution )
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 23:53
the biggest problem with using a Pi is what @Scorponok just mentioned: you have to get a TI stick for decent range, and you have to have a CC-debugger to flash subg_rfspy onto it. the Explorer board has the radio chip built in.
not sure if/how you can use an MMcommander in place of a TI stick
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 07 2017 23:57
The Pi is slightly easier to figure out, but the edison is better overall
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 07 2017 23:58
@Scorponok there are some folks in the D.C. area that do meetups occasionally, and I suspect one of them does have a debugger...
semccallis
@semccallis
Feb 07 2017 23:59
That makes sense I am just overwhelmed with trying to see what all I need and what works with what. I have looked at doing it before and did not go through with it yet I really want to this time just need to figure out what is the best way. I wanted to originally do the loopkit but dont have a mac and dont know anyone that does.
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 07 2017 23:59
@scottleibrand Thanks - any idea what the best way to get in touch with them is?