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Feb 2017
hilarykoch
@hilarykoch
Feb 16 2017 00:09
I ordered this Edison https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PTVSVI8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 But the one @gregtcm lists above is like $20 difference. Can someone let me know what the difference is. I’d love to save money, but want to make sure I get the right thing. :)
dan lightner
@danimaniac
Feb 16 2017 00:16
@peterfulvi I'm learning...here is what I have so far. You can view the .stl in the case repo here: https://github.com/danimaniac/OpenAPS-Explorer-Board-Edison-vented-case !https://goo.gl/photos/1ugrS41nCfANZijn7 @irunemur The .stl file might give you a good place to start. It is not likely sized correctly, but it shows a general concept of the case I am looking to use.
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 16 2017 00:20
@hilarykoch I think the one you linked has the edison and a breakout board. I believe that we'll be using the explorer board instead of the breakout board. At least that is my understanding.
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 00:23
@danimaniac That looks sweet..
hilarykoch
@hilarykoch
Feb 16 2017 00:24
@gregtcm Right. The Edison is used with the Explorer. I just happened to order that Edison because it was the one from the OpenAPS docs. But it looks like you found just the Edison $20 cheaper. :smile: We’ve already got one rig up and running, I’m just looking to build more. And it looks like it is too late to cancel my order, so I’m out a few extra bucks. :worried:
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 00:24
@irunemur What would be a good drafting program to use?
Sandra Keßler
@SandraK82
Feb 16 2017 00:27
@peterfulvi i just found Fusion 360 very handy, as you can work with really good measurement tools like in 2D
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 00:28
Great thank you
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 00:34
is there any limitations far as charging the explorer board im using a 10,000 mAh battery tocharge it up. also how do i check batt status
Matt Walker
@walker0
Feb 16 2017 00:51
@peterfulvi any standard usb port should work. Battery status is uploaded to nightscout in the latest version of master, you should see it in the uploader battery pill.
@gregtcm that big battery should work but it will take ~20 hours to recharge and the edison will be quite hot for the duration of that.
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 16 2017 01:01
@walker0 I was imagining typically charging over night, but with the bonus of it lasting longer if needed (traveling, etc.) Or would it be better to have two batteries and a separate charging station?
hilarykoch
@hilarykoch
Feb 16 2017 01:02
@gregtcm I ended up buying extra batteries. I think what we have gets maybe 14 hours, so I’d rather have extras just in case. We do charge over night.
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 16 2017 01:04
@hilarykoch @walker0 Could you recommend a good way /device to charge up the extra batteries?
Matt Walker
@walker0
Feb 16 2017 01:10
@gregtcm it is quite annoying to plug and unplug and carrying extra lithium batteries that aren't part of a device isn't really advised on planes. You can charge it while you are using it so you can just plug it into a battery bank like your phone if you are away from home and need a charge.
hilarykoch
@hilarykoch
Feb 16 2017 01:11
So we’re new to OpenAPS, but were Looping for several months. I charge at night and use that one during the day. We let our kids stay up late one night and I realized the battery was just about to die. My plan is to make a couple more rigs and likely just plug them into the walls at home around the house. But I might alternatively have a couple rigs always charged, but powered down until I need one. (Haven’t quite figured it all out yet.)
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 16 2017 01:36
@walker0 @hilarykoch Thanks for the info!
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 01:53
what are some log reports I can pull for helping me figure out why my daughter’s rig stopped twice today?
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 02:01
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This is what I could pull while it was stuck. Just rebooted it now…any ideas of what those errors mean?
Starting pump-loop at Wed Feb 15 15:52:15 PST 2017:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/mmeowlink-any-pump-comms.py", line 15, in <module>
    app.run(None)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/decocare/helpers/cli.py", line 113, in run
    self.prelude(args)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/cli/any_pump_comms_app.py", line 28, in prelude
    super(AnyPumpCommsApp, self).prelude(args)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/cli/base_mmeowlink_app.py", line 26, in prelude
    self.link = link = LinkBuilder().build(args.radio_type, port)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/link_builder.py", line 16, in build
    return SubgRfspyLink(port)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/vendors/subg_rfspy_link.py", line 55, in __init__
    self.open()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/vendors/serial_interface.py", line 23, in open
    raise AlreadyInUseException("%s already in use" % self.device)
mmeowlink.vendors.serial_interface.AlreadyInUseException: /dev/spidev5.1 already in use
Starting pump-loop at Wed Feb 15 16:20:16 PST 2017:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/mmeowlink-any-pump-comms.py", line 15, in <module>
    app.run(None)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/decocare/helpers/cli.py", line 113, in run
    self.prelude(args)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/cli/any_pump_comms_app.py", line 28, in prelude
    super(AnyPumpCommsApp, self).prelude(args)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/cli/base_mmeowlink_app.py", line 26, in prelude
    self.link = link = LinkBuilder().build(args.radio_type, port)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/link_builder.py", line 16, in build
    return SubgRfspyLink(port)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/vendors/subg_rfspy_link.py", line 55, in __init__
    self.open()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/mmeowlink/vendors/serial_interface.py", line 23, in open
    raise AlreadyInUseException("%s already in use" % self.device)
mmeowlink.vendors.serial_interface.AlreadyInUseException: /dev/spidev5.1 already in use
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 02:27
@Kdisimone that seems to happen when two things try to use the radio at once, I set up a cron job to reboot it when that happened and it fixed it
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 02:28
@Scorponok can you share what you put in?
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 02:30
radio_errors=`tail /var/log/openaps/pump-loop.log | grep "spidev5.1 already in use"`
if [ ! -z "$radio_errors" ]
then
  logfile=~/colen/reset-log.txt
  date >> $logfile
  echo "Radio error found" | tee -a $logfile
  wall "Rebooting to fix radio errors!"
  reboot | tee -a $logfile
fi
saved as a .sh file and set up in crontab to run every 10 minutes
Luis Betancourt
@betluis
Feb 16 2017 02:45
Hello, has somebody gone through the pebble setup lately? I'd like to set it up and would truly appreciate a little bit of guidance.
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 02:46
@Scorponok Ok, I think I can create the .sh file…but the actual line for the cron is above my paygrade still. I’m learning though. Can you share the cron line?
@gregtcm I think you meant to post in the autotune channel?
gregtcm
@gregtcm
Feb 16 2017 02:48
@Kdisimone Ok, will do. Thanks
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 02:54

@Kdisimone

*/10 * * * * <<<PATH TO YOUR FILE GOES HERE>>>

e.g. for me it's

*/10 * * * * /root/colen/reboot_to_fix_radio_if_needed.sh
The bit with the stars is "run every 10 minutes", then after that it's just the command to invoke
Oh, you may need to "chmod +x <<<YOUR FILE>>>" also
Note that there may be better ways to do it than just rebooting, I haven't investigated further
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 02:57
I’m fine with reboot. Just need something that is a little more automated for my kid and I while she is at school. This has happened several times while at school. Today was just the straw that has made me really try to figure out what’s going on vs. push reboot when she got home.
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 03:09
@Scorponok is colen your openaps dir?
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 16 2017 03:10
@Kdisimone is your daughter using Bluetooth tethering with her phone? I'm having the same issue since I've added BT tether, and only seems to happen when I am tethering.
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 03:12
Yes…that’s when we are seeing the problem
I’m not with her at school to see it happening…but definitely when she’s moving from a wifi to hotspot
And I’ve got a couple other people that are going through what I think is the same issue
@Racheezy__twitter have you found a solution?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 16 2017 03:13
Issue, please
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 03:14
OK
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 16 2017 03:16
@danamlewis when I'm Bluetooth tethering, my rig will randomly disconnect, then won't connect via Bluetooth or my mobile hotspot. Only a manual reboot seems to work. Seems to be after about 4 hours.
@Kdisimone nope! That's why I popped over here :)
I should add it doesn't connect to my home wifi either.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 16 2017 03:17
TY
Please keep logging any info relevant to the situation in the issue so we can better help troubleshoot later
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 16 2017 03:19
Will do!
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 03:21
issue here
openaps/oref0#406
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 16 2017 03:25
:+1:
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 03:31
@Kdisimone Replace <<<PATH TO YOUR FILE GOES HERE>>> with the full path to whatever .sh file you created
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 03:33
I was more wondering if there was a reason it would have to be in the myopenaps dir…doesn’t look like it needs to be. I’m a bit of a newbie, so i ask a lot of questions before proceeding. :smile:
@Scorponok have you been checking your log file to see how often this has happened during the day? Just curious….We seem to have it about once or twice a day
Geoff Aumaugher
@geoffro10
Feb 16 2017 04:06
Does anyone know how to send or transfer a file from the rig to my computer?
jmcrawford
@jmcrawford
Feb 16 2017 04:08
@geoffro10 You can use an SCP client to transfer files to/from - something like WinSCP (on windows, not sure about mac)
Matt Walker
@walker0
Feb 16 2017 04:09
@geoffro10 you can use Scp, on a mac you would do scp root@myedison:/path/to/file /path/to/destination
Geoff Aumaugher
@geoffro10
Feb 16 2017 04:13
@jmcrawford @walker0 THANK YOU!!! Downloaded it and it worked wonderfully!! Thanks again!!
andyhandy
@andyhandy
Feb 16 2017 04:59
hi all. how would one connect a G5 receiver directly to an edison with explorer board? thanks
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 16 2017 05:41
@andyhandy with a cable
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 16 2017 06:14
microUSB OTG male-male, or a microUSB OTG adapter plugged into a regular microUSB data cable
chookchook1
@chookchook1
Feb 16 2017 06:51
@tim2000s our interesting bolus was through loop app but am also using openaps so will tell you if we see anything similar.
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 07:18
Hi @danamlewis Yes I'm aware of that one. What was odd in this case is that I was dealing with a pump initiated manual bolus and the pump shows two 5u boluses, one with 5u delivered and one with 2.6u.
At exactly the same time.
chookchook1
@chookchook1
Feb 16 2017 07:20
@danamlewis @tim2000s thanks for the link! I think we are following all those protocols 😀. The time this happened to us the double bolus was delivered through Loop, appeared immediately in nightscout, and all took place before we were back in range of any openaps rigs. We haven't seen it since though. Like Tim, we had two different bolus amounts appear. Unfortunately it happened at school so that makes it more complex to check. Great to have those protocols there though.
chookchook1
@chookchook1
Feb 16 2017 07:46
@danamlewis actually, on a closer re read, there are some things we haven't done exactly as described ( maybe the doc wasn't quite the same before?), yet haven't had the expected problems. I'll have a careful check back though. Thanks.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 16 2017 08:01
:+1: just wanted y'all to be aware
chookchook1
@chookchook1
Feb 16 2017 08:01
Appreciate it 😀
irunemur
@irunemur
Feb 16 2017 09:16
@peterfulvi I usually work on AutoDesk Inventor or Solidworks. They may seem a little bit confusing at first but they are really easy to use (there are a lot of tutorials on the internet) and you can do a lot of things with them! I'm gonna start taking a look to the files you have uploaded :-)
lukas-ondriga
@lukas-ondriga
Feb 16 2017 09:18
@scottleibrand I prepared short documentation for Hot Button configuration. Should I make a PR to openaps/docs? Dev or master branch? Is walkthrough/phase-4 good place?
chrisharris751
@chrisharris751
Feb 16 2017 10:07
@danamlewis Awesome, thanks Dana. I'll check it out.
chrisharris751
@chrisharris751
Feb 16 2017 10:20
How does one search for old mentions on gitter?
irunemur
@irunemur
Feb 16 2017 10:37
@peterfulvi @danimaniac I have made a basic 3D sketch of the case. I have also rounded the vent spaces.. Take a look at it :-) http://imgur.com/a/603za?
chrisharris751
@chrisharris751
Feb 16 2017 11:07
no, what's in the alias is battle-tested for syntax @scottleibrand which report need changing to 24 hours in openaps.ini ?
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 11:10
@cjo20 seeing the MDT direction arrows :+1:
andyhandy
@andyhandy
Feb 16 2017 11:14
thanks @danamlewis @scottleibrand
i'm having major issues with my wifi dongle on the pi - stops working every few hours. anyone encountered that problem? thanks
chrisharris751
@chrisharris751
Feb 16 2017 11:35
@scottleibrand Never mind, I've got it working!! All i need to do now is work out why my treatments don't show in NS. I'm sure its timezone related as well..
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 11:36
@irunemur Looks very good. Rightnow im trying to find a freeware cad program. Keep up the good work. What do yoy have planned for the inside?
Paul Dickens
@thebookins
Feb 16 2017 12:40
blob
@danimaniac @peterfulvi so i had a go at a small case design - it's not finished (still need to make the lid. The explorer board screws down on to bosses so it's all nice and snug. Enough for tonight - off to bed.
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 12:43
@Kdisimone That matches what I've seen as well, usually once or twice a day. It doesn't need to be in the myopenaps directory, I made a new folder with my name for misc tools like that to keep them separate
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 12:59
@thebookins doy you have an .stl file for this ?
Can someone tell me what exactly this number means? I just want to understand it. I know the 900's is the frequency
reporting monitor/mmtune.json
"916.612", 5, -70
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 16 2017 13:03
@lukas-ondriga great! We use master branch of docs for most PRs. That sounds like a good place to put it for now.
5 is number of packets (out of 5) it got back. -70 is RSSI. Anything above -80 is decent for looping.
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 13:08
so the negative is signal strength (recieved signal strength). So -99 would be decent?
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 14:28
@peterfulvi -99 means "no signal" I think
We typically get -50 at the best, if you have -50 to -80 you're good, if you have -80 to -99 you may have problems, if you have -99 it's getting a very weak signal
-99 means "move the radio closer to the pump" for us
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 14:35
Thanks that really explains it. I have another question. I left my rig plugged into the wall to charge the battery last night as I slept. When I came to work the battery died on me 3 hours after being unplugged. Does it have to be plugged into a specific slot on the explorer board to actually charge. I'm getting a wireless charger today in hopes that it will charge the battery while running
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 14:37
@peterfulvi In my experience it doesn't matter which port it's plugged into - we normally plug it into the USB OTG port, but either should work I think. What size of battery do you have? Running out after 3 hours isn't normal
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 14:56
Its the one that is recommended in the docs it plugs into the explorer board
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 16 2017 14:59
You're right @Scorponok doesn't matter which port for charging
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 15:07
@peterfulvi If you want more technical information about the signal strength, the number gives power relative to a 1 mW signal. A strength of -80 is equivalent to receiving 10pW, -70 is 100pW etc.
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 15:07
@cjo20 Although they seem to be stuck on⬆️⬆️ in spite of really being ➡️
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 15:08
@tim2000s got a nightscout link I can look at?
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 15:10
I'll ping privately.
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Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 15:13
No idea why it'd be doing that. Probably easiest for you to debug the script by taking a copy of the glucose history and running it through the script manually
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 15:22
@peterfulvi We ran into a situation where the edison wasn't connecting to the pump which ran the battery down very fast - if you weren't being able to connect, the same thing could have happened
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 15:23
Just a quick survey: On a scale of 1-10, how hard was it to set up OpenAPS, and again, 1-10, what is your level of tech knowledge (1 being 'I dont use computers' and 10 being 'I make computers')
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 15:29
I was just running off an external battery and I just lost signal to my to the pump maybe that's the issue
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 15:29
@cjo20 5/10 for "how difficult", 8/10 for my tech knowledge (I've been a software developer for 15 years, but mostly develop for Windows/Mac, so not a lot of linux knowledge)
@peterfulvi I'd bet it was the "lost signal to pump" thing
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 15:31
@Scorponok Would you say this is fair?
You probably only end up using a handful of commands, and the openaps gitter chat is available to help talk people through things they don't understand. 
The barrier to entry really isn't that high, to the extent of maybe taking an evening or two to get the basics. 
If you're interested it's definitely worth spending that long at least looking at it in more detail
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 15:36
@cjo20 For that second line, are you thinking about the barrier to entry for a "normal" person, or someone already comfortable with using a command line / linux?
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 15:36
normal person
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 15:37
@cjo20 the barrier to entry isn't that high if you're already familiar with "techy stuff" (e.g. if you're already comfortable using a command line), but it's huge to someone to hasn't done that before
The openaps/oref0 devs have done an amazing job making it as good as it is, don't get me wrong, but there's still way more complexity in here than you could normally get away with for a software product - it works for this because the potential user-base is unusually motivated, but I'm pretty sure there's no way (for example) my wife could have got this set up herself - she's a smart person, but there's a very steep learning curve
Again, not to slight what the devs have done, what's available is wonderful and already making a difference to our lives - we couldn't go back at this point
But even just having to use a command line will be a dealbreaker for a lot of people
It's possible I'm not giving "normal people" enough credit, but I've been a windows/mac software developer for 15 years, and one of the most difficult parts of my job is making our software simple enough for a "normal person" to use
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 15:39
Basically, I'm talking to someone that thinks the amount of tech work in getting openaps up and running looks daunting / complicated
Trying to think of a way of wording things that isn't misleading :P
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 15:40
I would say it's a lot of work, but then probably so was getting used to an insulin pump - it's hard, but if you get it all figured out, it's worth it
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 15:45
@cjo20 2/10 for how difficult to setup, but 7/10 to learn troubleshooting commands and anything beyond basic setup. My tech knowledge 4 or 5/10 but willingness to fail while learning is about 9/10.
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 16:14
@scorponok I lost signal a couple times but only for 5 minutes at a time. I'm online now it's definitely battery power I'm running it with my external battery pack which is bulky. Maybe the battery is messed up. I'm waiting on the wireless charger hopefully that'll help things be more mobile
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 16:20
Traveling with rig across time zones? What do we need to do to pump and/or rig and/or NS and/or dex (G5)
dan lightner
@danimaniac
Feb 16 2017 16:20

@cjo20 Keep in mind...I have not even assembled my rig yet...waiting on EB shipment. I have read the documentation SEVERAL times and am familiar with command line (linux) but still need to look up specific commands. Ease of understanding the documentation: 3/10 (This is not yet a fool proof commercially available device.) 7/10 experience with tech. I am not afraid to tinker with hardware or software (I can usually follow directions pretty well). However:

I have often wondered if a customized OpenAPSJubilinux.iso or live cd (just a customized linix distro, not a roll your own endeavor) would provide a simpler setup for some. Maybe a user could boot their machine into the live cd regardless of being a windows, mac, or linux user then walk through an automated install to the EB Edison rig? Just thinking out loud here.

Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 16:21
There is some value in having people set it all up themselves. It equips them to understand what it is doing and how to investigate problems
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 16:24
@cjo20 one thing I realized when we were setting stuff up - getting nightscout set up is a good first step, and may not even need an openaps rig to do it (if you have some other way of getting your BG to the cloud, like carelink connect or something). So that could be a good thing to start off with, since that doesn't require spending much money / ordering hardware
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 16:24
@Scorponok I think that script fixed our problem this morning. She was on her hotspot on car ride to school, got to school wifi (but rig didn't switch) and looping stopping. Hung for about 16 min or so based on OpenAPS pill in NS...and then started itself back again. Now on school wifi and off hotspot.
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 16:25
@Kdisimone awesome! That sounds right, it only checks every 10 minutes (don't want to reboot repeatedly) and will take a few minutes to "re-tune" afterwards
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 16:26
Thank you!
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 16:26
Sure! Fingers crossed for the rest of the day
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 16:32
@danimaniac The other key thing about building it yourself is that it is your responsibility and not a product built by someone else, with the liabilities that come along with that.
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 16:41
@cjo20 OpenAPS was relatively easy (9/10). Rebuilding the Linux version of the 640G uploader was a lot harder! But my level of knowledge has been using unix since 1994 so 8/10).
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 16:42
I like how Tim and I both rated ourselves 8/10, which apparently covers the range "been using unix since 1994" to "kinda familiar with linux". :-)
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 16:50
Yeah, that's the problem with rating things out of 10 :P
80% of people will put themselves as 8+
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 16:50
If you asked my mom, my technology knowledge is 10/10
Luis Betancourt
@betluis
Feb 16 2017 17:34
@cjo20 it is interesting to notice that some people won't go for openaps even when somebody else can take care of the technical aspects for them. This is the case of the medtronic rep I deal with. I offered her help in setting her rig up, bascially a dedicated person in her own city to help her... and just no... I also exchanged my new pump (not compatible) with somebody that had a 722 almost new at no cost to him. I explained beforehand the reasons I had to do this and offered technical help in case they wanted to use openaps instead. They already had a pump and CGM!... the answer again was no, too complicated they said (the parents)... so, this goes beyond technical knowledge, something else plays a role here.
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 17:35
I could imagine non-technical issues with a Medtronic employee using OpenAPS
Luis Betancourt
@betluis
Feb 16 2017 17:35
possibly but know another rep that is gladly using it
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Feb 16 2017 17:36
Not wanting to use an open-source product to automatically manage insulin doses is a valid choice
Luis Betancourt
@betluis
Feb 16 2017 17:37
I myself got in love with the project from day one.. no matter how capable I was, I would have gone for it immediately
but, yes, it's about each person's choice
hilarykoch
@hilarykoch
Feb 16 2017 17:58
Having a similar problem to @Kdisimone and @Scorponok with regard to rig suddenly not working. I don’t have any pics to share, but have noticed it happens between wifi and BT tethering. Trying @Scorponok’s fix (via Katie)! Thank you.
Also, @danamlewis we are still experiencing wifi cutout when my son goes to bed at night, so the updated master version did not fix the problem. I’m going to try a wifi extender and see if that solves it.
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 18:00
@cjo20 @betluis I'd been talking about building an APS algorithm with a work colleague for a few months before stumbling across OpenAPS, so I guess my interest stems from somewhere slightly different!
@hilarykoch I've seen that too. You switch from bt to wifi (or wifi to wifi) and the pump loop locks out with a load of @@@@@@@ in the log.
My suspicion is that it's trying to communicate with NS at that point and there's some form of race condition incurred when the link suddenly drops on it. Worth noting I didn't see it when running 100% on bt.
hilarykoch
@hilarykoch
Feb 16 2017 18:02
@tim2000s Exactly. And at first I thought it was a problem with my NS site, but realized when others mentioned a similar problem that it wasn’t.
We were on BT hotspot for about two hours last night when it suddenly stopped working. Hoping this will at least help to catch it.
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 18:05
Is there a link to the script?
hilarykoch
@hilarykoch
Feb 16 2017 18:24
@tim2000s No, @Kdisimone typed something up for me. Let me see if I can send it to you...
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 18:24
@hilarykoch I'll put it on my Dropbox and link here
hilarykoch
@hilarykoch
Feb 16 2017 18:25
EVEN better! @tim2000s check out Katie’s link
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 18:28
No worries. Found it in the Gitter
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Feb 16 2017 18:29
That script works for some cases, but the one I had today it wouldn't have picked up.
Hats one where there seems to be some overlap on the explorer board that locks it out. The one I had today (and I've had before) has no reference to the explorer board. It just fills the pump-log with @@@@@@ then pump-loop dies.
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 18:31
@tim2000s want to add some of your logs to the issue? openaps/oref0#406
Or maybe create a new one?
Was your’s during a wifi to wifi switch? Our issues so far have mostly been BT-wifi switching. We don’t move between wifi-wifi very often.
I suppose that script grep’ing the error message could be adapted as a short term fix for your issue too?
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 16 2017 18:49
Right now, my rig is connected to my phone via BT but not looping. When I switched to mobile hotspot, started looping fine. Switched back after tailing to see it working, but it stopped working again. I'm not sure how to (or if you can) ssh into the rig while BT tethering to pull any logs though. Any suggestions for grabbing relevant logs? I have some from wifi hotspot but it just looks like the normal loop.
Oh! Just started looping again after about 10-15 minutes
Scorponok
@Scorponok
Feb 16 2017 18:54
@Racheezy__twitter I believe that a lot of the stuff like the "reconnect to the wifi" checks happen periodically - it's not like a phone where it sees the network and immediately connects, it has to wait for openaps to run, decide there's no network, maybe delay a while to "wait out" any temporary problems, then try to reconnect
(My understanding at least, may not be accurate)
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 16 2017 18:57
@Kdisimone if you're just shifting a couple timezones temporarily, you can leave all your devices and rigs on your home timezone. your basals might eventually be a couple hours off, but that's gonna happen with jet lag regardless, so may not be worth adjusting for. If you'll be doing more than 3 hours, or more than a week, it's probably worth changing the timezones on the rigs and running oref0-set-device-clocks (and making sure the pump and CGM both update)
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 16 2017 19:01
@Scorponok That makes sense! My confusion I think comes from seeing the confirmation that it's connected to my phone, but seeing on my pump that I don't have a temp basal or it hasn't changed in awhile. I think in this case, I'm just impatient. However, so far my experience is only limited to BT disconnection when my Pixel is connected to my school or work wifi, in which you need to accept terms and conditions or login through the browser first. Dunno if that's related.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Feb 16 2017 19:03
I would definitely look at the network.log to see what it's actually doing: if you're logged in in real time, just wifi will show it. if you're doing it after the fact, less /var/log/openaps/network.log and then G to go to the end and scroll up from there
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 16 2017 19:04
@scottleibrand Thanks!
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 19:24
@Racheezy_twitter did you update since 2-7? I think that's when @scottleibrand had the captive portal code updated to keep rig from hanging on those types of networks.
@racheezy_twitter We use terminus app to pull logs while BT tethered yesterday.
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 16 2017 19:58
@Kdisimone I've not tried that yet. Available on Android too?
@Kdisimone also I can't remember if I have updated since then. Will look more into it after class today
katie disimone
@Kdisimone
Feb 16 2017 20:01
Similar apps are available, just would be different names. Look up one that would allow ssh connections. And one that does network scans
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 16 2017 20:08
I have HE network tool, which is how I find the IP address through hotspot, but when BT tethering and connected to my school's wifi, it shows everything connected to the wifi. Any way around this?
Matthias
@ceben80
Feb 16 2017 20:25
@Racheezy__twitter look for "Ping Sweep" Android App :wink: great for scaning the bt network, but you need to define the range e.g. from 192.168.44.1 to 192.168.44.254
Rachel.
@Racheezy__twitter
Feb 16 2017 20:37
@ceben80 thank you!! :)
diabeticgonewild
@diabeticgonewild
Feb 16 2017 20:40
Not able to PR yet. 😞 Still messed up from pain medicine. Sorry. Will try to do it Friday. 😭
📝👍
Paul Dickens
@thebookins
Feb 16 2017 21:18
@peterfulvi I have uploaded the stl for my case design to https://github.com/thebookins/openaps-case. Would be great to get your feedback. Thinking of making the rounds on the top surface a bit bigger, but need to make sure there's still room for the PCB.
peterfulvi
@peterfulvi
Feb 16 2017 22:02

@thebookins Looks great.i went ahead and sent a plan to be printed just beacause i need a case very badly. Hereis the explorer board dimensions The Explorer Board dimensions (L x W x H) are: 54mm x 30mm x 8.0mm.

adafruit 3.7v 2000mAh battery dimensions are 60mm x 36mm x 7mm.

Paul Dickens
@thebookins
Feb 16 2017 22:07
It's still a WIP, there's not even a lid yet! You might want to confirm my measurements with calipers yourself. Planning to finish this weekend and print on Monday. Will update repo with details.
glenrob1940
@glenrob1940
Feb 16 2017 22:55
@cjo20 Raspberry Pi 2/10 for how hard to set up, Explorer 8/10 for set up. In general the Pi is easy to setup and rock solid in operation, particularly with a TI stick; it is also easy to clone a backup system. The explorer's prime difficulty is flashing and at least with my experience difficult to keep running (Edison with Intel breakout board has more difficulty setting up (including wiring in a TI stick and flashing),but seems more reliable then the explorer.
glenrob1940
@glenrob1940
Feb 16 2017 23:00
General question on Explorer board future. Would it be feasible to essentially waste the on board storage, turning into essentially a flashable grub2 boot loader, and then adding a micro Sd slot for the system disc. This would enable setup to be essentially (other than the initial flash for grub) similar for most people to load the latest debian OS and setup openAPS similar to the Pi.
Pardon the excessive use of essentially
glenrob1940
@glenrob1940
Feb 16 2017 23:06
Another Explorer board future idea - what if we could somehow emulate rileylink practice. Have a group build a edison/explorer system with case and with the latest debian installed, but w/o openAPS to sell as a prodct
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Feb 16 2017 23:09
There's been discussions about someone selling pre-flashed Edison's