These are chat archives for nightscout/intend-to-bolus

26th
Jul 2017
LilDucky
@LilDucky
Jul 26 2017 00:40
@applehat 👏👍
Samuchco
@Samuchco
Jul 26 2017 01:37
may need some other combination of plug unplug and reboot rig / computer to get it going again. not sure what exactly: I would just start trying things along those lines.
I re-installed Jubilunix from scratch and it worked. Thanks @scottleibrand
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 01:47
@applehat: just curious how long were you on openaps when visiting endo?
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 01:48
~ 2 months.
I told them before hand that I was going to do it tho
I had a rig built when I went 3 months ago, but no compatible pump yet.
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 01:52
cool
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 01:55
I was surporised just how accepting she was. She's young (can't be but late 20s / early 30s) and had read about it before.
actually said (this is a direct quote) "I'm probably supposed to say it's not FDA approved and blah blah blah - but your doing amazing!"
Samuchco
@Samuchco
Jul 26 2017 02:03
Hello from Florida. I need some clarification. I installed oref0 into the Edison. I created a Role (oref0rig with the 6 permissions) in the NS Adminitrative tools. I also created a Subject (XXXAPS ) in order to create a token for the rig. What is not clear to me is how to fill the Roles box. I'm assuming that I put "Oref0rig" in the "roles" box?
Samuchco
@Samuchco
Jul 26 2017 02:16
I'm not sure I was clear in my question. When I create a new Subject, what do I put under Roles?
Joey
@Cooljoe04_twitter
Jul 26 2017 03:14

@applehat I have an Endo appointment at the end of next month. Going to be interesting to see what my A1C is at that point. Last appointment was with my primary doc in mid-May and it was 8.5 at that point, pre-openAPS, which is an avg BG of 197. Should be MUCH better now. Had openAPS running about 3 weeks now, with SMB for just a little less than that. According to my Dexcom reports my average BG has been improving more and more. 90-day average=181, 30-days=170, 14-days=156, 7-days=144, 48-hours=144.

Then of course tonight I forget to take any bolus for a meal, while my rig is not on me, while my phone was away from me, so by the time I realize it Dexcom is reading "HIGH", so 400+ BG. #T1Dfail. Doesn't help my averages any!

I didn't get their blessing on using openAPS first either, so we will see what they say! LoL
RedCyclist1
@RedCyclist1
Jul 26 2017 03:26
I'm trying to get papetrail going on my second rig. What does "Start a new aggregate" mean? I've done this before but I'm not sure what to do
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 03:53
@Cooljoe04_twitter at the end of the day, your the person with diabetes. They can not approve all they want, but it IS nice to have your doctor on board =P
@Cooljoe04_twitter also... rig not on you and phone away from you? I'm way to obsessive / anxious to be away from either of those
I unplug my phone from my headunit and take it with me inside gas stations for my 2 minutes stops XD
Sebastien Lussier
@SebastienLussier
Jul 26 2017 03:58
Hello! My son sensor had to be removed a few hours ago... He did eat without it (60g). Now, the 2h warmup is done on the new sensor and openaps thinks COB == 60g!
COB.jpg
He was low already, hopefully the rig zero temped almost after that
But it still think there are COB...
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:02
This message was deleted
Sebastien Lussier
@SebastienLussier
Jul 26 2017 04:03
He did bolus, but that was ~6h ago :)
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:03
Yeah sorry, I just saw that the blob had 4u under it
Im not sure whats going on there. Even without active blood glucose readings, the carb decay should have still happened.
I'll let someone else chime in, hopefully.
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:12
@SebastienLussier - I'm not sure what to say about the COB that's showing, but you could do set a temporary target that his higher (which should zero temp him) by using a temporary target in NIghtscout via careportal until you can sort it or until it decays completely.
Set an exercising soon - adjust your target to what you think will keep him zero temped and set a time you'd like to stay that way...
You can always cancel temp target (also in careportal) if his bg recovers enough
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:17
As an aside - we 'soak the sensor' (per Dana's description - you put a new sensor in for a while with the other sensor running to let it settle - we try to do overnight if we can, placing a small 'dud' piece of plastic where the sensor would go) and then when we are ready, we swap over the transmitter without any warmup period. The first few readings are always off, but after a callibration we are usually good to go with no downtime. Perhaps others will chime in how they manage the sensor change.
Sebastien Lussier
@SebastienLussier
Jul 26 2017 04:21
@JELCRAWFORD thanks for the info! we'll try that next time if possible
Oh.. It looks like the temp target caused the COB to be cleared to 0!... It was at 53 the minute before...
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:30
yay for zero cob :)
Dirk Gastaldo
@dirkgastaldo
Jul 26 2017 04:36
@JELCRAWFORD could u help me understand how u avoid the 2-hour sensor warmup session? I think my Dexcom G5 stops the current sensor after 7 days and forces a warmup session.
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:38
@dirkgastaldo you can bypass the 7 days by using xDrip+ on android as the receiver, and just not using the dexcom brick.
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:39
@dirkgastaldo - we use a g4 - so I'm not very familiar with the g5. With the g4 you are 'asked' to restart your sensor, we just don't. Because we use xdrip+ and an android uploader phone, we can just continue the sensor there. If we want the receiver to display blood glucose info then we have to live with a 2 hour warm up on it, but we do not have to live with a 2 hour wait on xdrip :) - I believe you can still leave your sensor in, but it may be that you have no choice but to live with the warmup session if you rely on dexcom provided tech.... If there is anyone on here that uses g5, maybe they can offer suggestions.
oops - I see someone has already offered :)
Dirk Gastaldo
@dirkgastaldo
Jul 26 2017 04:39
I'm not using the Dexcom receiver. I'm using an iPhone.
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:40
I should have said "Dexcom Provided Receiver" of some sort.
Since dexcom wrote that code, its still gonna force the new warmup
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:41
yes, my bad - it presumes you have something other than a dex solution for BG readings. We have a receiver, but don't use it as primary.
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:42
My receiver went into my "stack of diabetes technology" 3 days after I started using dexcom
Dirk Gastaldo
@dirkgastaldo
Jul 26 2017 04:42
Can I avoid the 2-hour warmup with an iPhone?
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:42
Not with anything I'm aware of currently
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:42
Sorry, I don't know that tech to be able to say...
You can still soak your sensor though which will make it more accurate when your finished your 2 hour warm-up.
Dirk Gastaldo
@dirkgastaldo
Jul 26 2017 04:43
Ok thanks. I still use the Dexcom receiver for offline looping when I'm hiking.
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:43
There was never a big push for Dexcom Receivers on iPhone because Dexcom supported them first - so the xDrip project has never really moved over to iPhone (or rather, any efforts to make an open source iPhone app)
Dirk Gastaldo
@dirkgastaldo
Jul 26 2017 04:44
Ah okay. Yes, I presoak about 12 hours.
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:44
I think it is quite a lot more difficult to make an opensource app for iphone.. no?
than for android I mean.
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:44
One other nice feature of Android (in the looping world) is that if you have your rig tethered to your phone over bluetooth, xDrip can push BG readings directly to the rig (this works offline as well).
Dirk Gastaldo
@dirkgastaldo
Jul 26 2017 04:46
Oh that's really nice. I was going to get an iPhone 8 later this year. Maybe I should get an Android phone.
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:46
@JELCRAWFORD not really. Theres actually an iOS framework written for the G5
But no "xDrip" app.
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:47
@applehat We haven't gotten this working yet... it's on the list...
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:47
I am not aware of it being used anywhere (Maybe Loop uses it? I know nothing about Loop).
@dirkgastaldo - Just do research first! I bought a Galaxy S8+ and had to return it to my carrier because they had disabled bluetooth tethering
I ended up with a OnePlus 5 - great phone, but the xDrip capture rate is only around 80% - I'm still working on sorting out why its so low.
I hear the Google Pixel and Pixel XL achieve 95%+ capture rates and tether as well - but the cost out of pocket was $300 more.
Another fun thing xDrip does, if you have a compatible watch (The Sony SW3 is currently the only one), is collect G5 readings right from the watch (so the phone can be left charging or something when at home)
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:50
@applehat - I meant we haven't gotten the xdrip push from android to offline rig working reliably yet - or maybe it is that we don't have a good output method to observe the loop working yet - I forget what we haven't even sorted out yet :)
@applehat we have a sony sw3 here, I had hoped that it would collect the g4 data too... so far, no go....
I got it for$50 so it seemed a good deal - perhaps too good to be true. Pebbles are also in use, but not without their challenges too.
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 04:52
cgm=xdrip, shell into your rig when it has a bluetooth pan network going (like right after you set it up - details in the docs), grab that address. Then just add http://secret@rigip:5000/api/v1/ to the uploader field, and uncheck "disable local network uploads" under "extra settings"
Mines worked perfectly from day one
My old Nexus 6 liked to randomly not give internet over my BT Tethering, so sometimes my nightscout site would show OpenAPS as down, but I'd still be looping.
If I found a SW3 for $50 i'd buy it right now.
I have a pebble as well that is just sitting (tho I need to revisit that - wan't to run pacreabble with it and use it as a screen for the rig)
SW3 collector would fix my crappy capture rate in xDrip
JELCRAWFORD
@JELCRAWFORD
Jul 26 2017 04:55
yes, I think that is maybe where we struggled actually. That and the old setup had a lot of trickiness to BT tethering, so we used hotspot on Iphone. Have not gotten back to working on the bt. Also on the list :)
Dirk Gastaldo
@dirkgastaldo
Jul 26 2017 05:10
@applehat Thank you!
andyhandy
@andyhandy
Jul 26 2017 07:49
trying to re-run setup script any getting this
fatal: unable to connect to github.com:
github.com: Name or service not known
any idea why that might be? thanks
Tim Street
@tim2000s
Jul 26 2017 07:58
@applehat A word of warning on SW3. For some of us it just doesn't work. I've attempted with it no end of times 🙁
jdunn42
@jdunn42
Jul 26 2017 08:10
@andyhandy What happens if you ping an external server (like google.com)?
andyhandy
@andyhandy
Jul 26 2017 08:40
@jdunn42
root@myedison:~# ping 8.8.4.4
connect: Network is unreachable
root@myedison:~# ping 8.8.8.8
connect: Network is unreachable
jdunn42
@jdunn42
Jul 26 2017 08:41
Is your rig currently on wifi, or tethered to a phone?
jdunn42
@jdunn42
Jul 26 2017 09:02
@andyhandy try "dhclient -r wlan0 && dhclient wlan0" (assuming it's on wifi).
Lin
@DengSir_twitter
Jul 26 2017 09:48
Hi, all, your drill in use when the EDISON chip will be hot?
andyhandy
@andyhandy
Jul 26 2017 10:13
@jdunn42 thanks for your help - i must have turned wifi off on the rig when i was testing bluetooth tethering before and didn't turn it back on. thanks - much appreciated.
PieterGit
@PieterGit
Jul 26 2017 10:17
@Samuchco : did you follow http://openaps.readthedocs.io/en/master/docs/While%20You%20Wait%20For%20Gear/nightscout-setup.html#switching-from-api-secret-to-token-based-authentication-for-your-rig I noticed the screenshots are broken links since the big doc update. I'll repair them later
fidoman
@efidoman
Jul 26 2017 11:57
@rodzilla55 - on the topic of dual hormone therapy, I would also go through the inconvenience of wearing 2 pumps. Avoiding lows may even be worth changing out the glucagon every 2 days with the current unstable version of glucagon. At any rate, I have an extra loopable pump and I would be willing to test it out for a period of time if someone in this wonderful community were able to put together an openaps module that would model the glucagon curve and send micro-boluses of glucagon when lows are predicted. I was a programmer (years ago) so I would help out there where I could. Do you know if there is there a separate channel in gitter for dual hormone therapy?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 12:06
Nope but you could create one if you want
fidoman
@efidoman
Jul 26 2017 12:11
I might create one since stable glucagon may come out at some point in the next couple of years. For now, it looks like costs would be prohibitive for glucagon. One emergency kit is about $300 and it only contains a single unit of glucagon. Unless anyone knows how to get glucagon in its current form in a better format or larger quantity.
cameronrenwick
@cameronrenwick
Jul 26 2017 12:17
cmrbg1.jpg
I thought I'd share a screen shot that shows how fiasp behaves (in my case anyway). I under-bolused at the red calibration for breakfast today. SMB added an extra 0.2U and my BG rose slightly, just hitting my high line, then at the next G4 reading dropped to a level line. I've been seeing this happen since on fiasp and SMB and initially thought maybe my G4 was noisy and behaving badly but on reflection I believe it's simply due to the quick response of the fiasp. Anyway, as more people switch onto fiasp I just thought I'd share some real-world experience.
Andy Sharrow
@dramageek
Jul 26 2017 12:32
I saw an article somewhere that the next big change with glucagon will likely be an inhalable powder. There's apparently no need for it to be liquid, and that greatly simplifies the procedure for administering it in emergency situations. I think it was in FDA trials now.
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 13:06
Has anyone found any software projects that automatically perform web portal clickthroughs on open networks? I have done some searching...
PieterGit
@PieterGit
Jul 26 2017 13:20
@Samuchco I created a pull request with the images, see openaps/docs#981
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 13:34
@M1Sports20 nope. Best solution I've found is to have a hootoo or similar so you can get into those networks via the phone and have all your devices be able to connect to that network
Lin
@DengSir_twitter
Jul 26 2017 14:55
屏幕快照 2017-07-26 22.53.45.png
屏幕快照 2017-07-26 22.54.54.png
My rig stopped for 10 hours,Its communication with the pump seems to have been unsuccessful,
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 14:58
@danamlewis Thanks. I was just trying to save data and not use bluetooth tethering. I have bluetooth tethering working on my phone, My phone uses cell data even though I am connected to wifi.
I haven't heard of hootoo, looking...
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 14:59
right, which is why a hootoo is nice - then the hootoo creates a known network for your rigs to jump on and so it's not using phone data
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 15:01
and really I shouldn't complain, openaps doesn't use that much data.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 15:02
nice not to have the blue bar on the phone, though
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 15:12
Its even worse on Android @danamlewis - we get a persist notification!
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 15:13
Yep, I am on android
Andy Sharrow
@dramageek
Jul 26 2017 15:25
While I find it annoying as I'm flipping through the notifications list, I do like the icon showing that it's connected. (on Android)
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 15:30
Yeah, I actually like the notification. Then again, I also keep my pump on beeps and not vibrate. I'm the anti @danamlewis
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 15:30
lol
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 15:31
My 4 year old has started parroting it. Every time he hears it now he goes "beep BEEP beep"
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 15:32
:laughing:
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 15:38
I think I am ready to try SMBs. I have only had autotuning on for about 4 days. Its not modifying my targets much. Then again I have been running openloop(HAPP) for quite a while
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 15:40
@M1Sports20 You've done more prep work then I ever did. I just turned it on and watched, and made sure I had some snacks available just in case =P
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 15:40
Yeah, just trying to understand what is happening. I like details and understanding how things work.
@applehat Were you the person working on collecting G5 data directly to the openaps
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 15:41
Oh, I agree. I've just always been a "learn by practice" learner, so I jumped in =P
@M1Sports20 I started playing with the concept a bit in Golang (didn't get far), but @thebookins has written an almost-working implementation in NodeJS - But there seems to be an issue with the bluetooth stack in the current Jubilinux and Raspbian. @PieterGit mentioned that the newer linux kernels would probably fix that issue and talked about building a Debian 9 image for the edisons - but thats pretty far down his list last I read.
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 15:44
I really don't understand how people use gitter search. When scrolling the expanding of items plays games with me. I use irc bridge, so anything recent I search taht way
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 15:45
@applehat I don't seem to have problems with bluetooth when tethering.
thanks for the link
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 15:46
The issue has to do with Secure Pairing of BLE devices
Bluetooth its self works, just that pesky little (relatively unused in day-to-day for most people) piece seems buggy / broken.
Theres a gitter channel for that project as well, if you wanna join - not much going on right now in there with just me and @thebookins =P
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 15:49
Yep, i just seen it and and joined
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 15:55
@applehat do you use UAM? I will do that later, I have no understanding how that works yet. Without reading anything I don't understand how you can control sugars well without bolusing before eating
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 15:58
I use UAM, but in my experience UAM, for me, has been a good "safety net". If im eating out and have to guess carbs, I'll generally be conservative in my guess. UAM can help out in those cases. I use Bolus Wizard and bolus the conservative guess, and then it will do the job of figuring out how badly I messed up.
I personally don't do the "tell the rig the carbs and let it handle it" unless its a pretty small meal
(or unless Im already sort of low, and don't want to risk my insulin dropping me lower before food can counter)
fwiw, without UAM, SMB's won't be very effective at fighting rises in BG.
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 16:00
OK, for SMBs we are still suppose to use the wizard. I don't know how to tell the rig carbs while giving a 0 bolus
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 16:00
Care Portal
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 16:00
do a 0.1
or care portal
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 16:00
or that
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 16:00
yeah care portal, ok
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 16:01
(from the pump, with 0.1, if looping offline tho, of corse)
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 16:01
So with smbs enabled. You don't take a bolus suggested by the wizard. You just enter carbs and it does the SMBs. I will go back and read the docs, but I don't recall if this was mentioned
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 16:01
if it's not, please PR
the oref1 page was mostly written by me, so needs others to add to it with what I've left out
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 16:02
Yes, and thank you @danamlewis. This wan't meant to be a knock against you at all
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 16:02
not taken as one!
just pointing out - the docs are by no means perfect, and that's one page I know I did most of the content and I have back end knowledge of how we designed it, so it needs more eyeballs and more additions of content from people who didn't design it and have different perspectives
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 16:03
ok. So just to make it clear, you don't take a bolus with SMBs enabled. Correct?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 16:03
YDMV
if you SMB, you could choose to do just carb entry and let SMB handle. you may want that for some types and sizes of meals.
you can also do carb entry and a starter bolus for the first part of meal, and let SMBs kick in the remainder as needed
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 16:04
ahh,m ok
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Jul 26 2017 16:04
depending on preference, timing, and what you learn about what works well for you, you may pick one method or use a variety of those depending on what happens IRL
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 16:06
My favorite is the carb entry and a starter bolus for the first part of meal, and let SMBs kick in the remainder as needed- it allows good control with "lazy diabetes". I don't have to be accurate down to the carb ( or even 10s of carbs ) for it to help keep me from spiking too high.
Also lets me avoid over-bolusing and hypos
rodzilla55
@rodzilla55
Jul 26 2017 16:12
@ericfeibelman I'm guessing Canada will come through with stable Glucagon formulation earlier than the States. It is really amazing... when you consider the fact that the dangerous (life threatening) risks of this disease management could be greatly reduced with glucagon, why has this not been tackled by drug companies and promoted by the device mfgs more in recent years?
@ericfeibelman I'd like to work on the dual hormone pump setup, but would want to know a realistic time frame for stable glucagon.
Anyone know of if someone has "cracked open" a pump and tried to engineer the batteries and components to fashion a single device (rig / pump combo)?
Samuchco
@Samuchco
Jul 26 2017 16:35
@PieterGit Thanks for your reply. Yes, I followed the instructions. I'm impressed that you actually went to the site and noticed that the link to the images was broken. Had they been functioning, I would have not asked the question. Thanks again and thanks for fixing them.
I'm still having trouble getting the NS to be accepted by oref0. As I follow the instructions and try oref0-setup.sh, I get a message "-bash: oref0-setup.sh: command not found.
When I enter oref0-runagain.sh, I get a message "-bash: oref0-runagain.sh: command not found.
Samuchco
@Samuchco
Jul 26 2017 16:41
When I enter crontab -e, I get "no crontab for root - using an empty one"
what am I missing and what am I doing wrong
PieterGit
@PieterGit
Jul 26 2017 16:44
@Samuchco : i wrote the docs so I knew the images were missing. It must be either ~/src/oref0/bin/oref0-setup.sh or oref0-setup. @dirkgastaldo is working on a PR, see openaps/docs#980
cameronrenwick
@cameronrenwick
Jul 26 2017 16:57
@applehat I take this approach as well but always try to be as close to carb counting as possible. I then roll back what the BW suggests by about 30% and let SMB take over. With fiasp, it's a pretty smooth ride and means better bolusing I believe and fewer lows.
Andy Sharrow
@dramageek
Jul 26 2017 17:09
@rodzilla55 I'm guessing that nobody's cracked one open to combine both as you'd end up undoing many of the safety fallbacks for rig failure. You'd probably have to leave the whole cartridge/motor assembly together to prevent that from throwing motor errors too.
It'd be different if you had a pump that was broken open already, but to me it seems like more drawbacks than the minor advantages.
RedCyclist1
@RedCyclist1
Jul 26 2017 17:12
@danamlewis @applehat Do you enter carbs in careportal in NS or are there other ways to use careportal? I have never really dug to deep into using CP.
We have been fighting lows so we need to try some different approaches to bolusing
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 17:16
I either enter from NS, or I have some IFTTT buttons setup for common treatments for hypos (like 10g)
RedCyclist1
@RedCyclist1
Jul 26 2017 17:18
@applehat OH, Thanks, yeah I think we have a IFTTT button for 18g.
Samuchco
@Samuchco
Jul 26 2017 17:34
@PieterGit Got my rig to work. Log is working and openAPS is in sync with NS. I'm testing this rig with my son's actual/current Dexcom data, but the pump a 522 (we had it as his original pump when he was a kid. Now he has a 723 that will not work with OpenAPS and a new 670G still in the box. No Medtronic CGM yet) I can see the IOB with data, BASAL right now to the max (2 units) since BG is 123 with arrow up. Obviously the rig will get confused by following the CGM while the 522 pump not connected to his body. Thanks again for your help
rodzilla55
@rodzilla55
Jul 26 2017 17:45
@dramageek Agreed... but I've thought of trying to get a 515 for cheap and playing with it. I wouldn't do it with my current primary device.
fiberfan
@fiberfan
Jul 26 2017 18:13
@rodzilla55 I have a dead 722 (nothing happens when batteries are inserted) laying around somewhere.
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 18:49
So I enabled SMBs, I didn't seem to give me any. I did to high temp basals to cover.
do you have to reset the rig after enabling smb in preferences?
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 18:50
Without UAM, SMB won't enact very often I don't believe.
They sort of go hand in hand
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 18:50
It did do high temp basals to cover my sugar spike. I only went to 133, which is still great right after a meal.
ok I will look into UAM
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 18:56
Looking at oref1 documentation is looks like SMBs should work with out UAM for meals. The document does state the reverse that UAM in not very effective if SMBs are one
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 18:57
Ahh. Right.
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Jul 26 2017 18:58
If I'm bouncing up against maxSafeBasal on a daily basis, what is the best way to address this? I know I can increase the safety caps, but I assume that it is better to make other adjustments (such as programmed basals) rather than change the safety caps. The relevant caps are the current and daily multipliers, not the max iob.
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 19:01
bdr1177: I assume your not using autotune correct?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jul 26 2017 19:01
@M1Sports20 @applehat UAM isn't required for SMBs as long as you're entering carbs
do you see Starting supermicrobolus pump-loop in your pump-loop.log?
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 19:02
bdr1177: I would like to restate that. I would not be using autotune, until I wasn't hitting caps. I tried to get close before enablign autotune
scottleibrand: No I do not
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jul 26 2017 19:02
if it says Starting pump-loop instead, then you haven't yet enabled SMBs properly by re-running oref0-setup
take another read through the oref1 docs for details on that
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 19:03
scottleibrand: Thanks, I assumed the variables where there and didn't see it was a cmdline to enable it. I will do that thanks again
I will read the document again.
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Jul 26 2017 19:06
@M1Sports20 No, not using autotune.
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 19:08
bdr1177: Are you hitting the caps with in your system?
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Jul 26 2017 19:30
@M1Sports20 Not sure what you mean. The basal adjustments are being limited by maxSafeBasal. Is that what you mean?
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 19:30
Sorry, I meant to say do you have carbs in your system when you are hitting the max basal adjustments?
rodzilla55
@rodzilla55
Jul 26 2017 19:42
@fiberfan How much $ ?
Brian Rabinovitz
@bdr1177
Jul 26 2017 19:43
@M1Sports20 I think it is happening both with and without COB.
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 19:46
For me personally, I would focus on getting your basals correct without COB on board. I adjusted my basals to try and all openaps to make minimum adjustments. Significate moves can usually be explained by an activity or food. I think getting basals without COB on board should be done first.
I don't know if this is how others went about it, but thats what I did first
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 20:26
So is it normal for the pump to SMB and do temp baals if sugars are going high.
Michael Spradling
@M1Sports20
Jul 26 2017 20:36
Another question, I now have 4 purple lines in nightscout. I can't seem to find what the 4th means in the docs. I read about 3 pruple lines
Cameron Chunn
@applehat
Jul 26 2017 20:36
4th is UAM predicted
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Jul 26 2017 20:47
well, depends on how you number them. :-) they're the IOB, UAM, COB, and aCOB lines
tell me which of those is poorly documented and I'll explain it so you can PR an update. :)
@bdr1177 I think @M1Sports20 is on the right track. I would try to make use of the autotune recommendations to help get your basals and ratios tuned. if you're still hitting maxSafeBasal with those well tuned, it may be appropriate to raise your safety caps. feel free to post a NS screenshot and a copy of the pump-loop.log from the time when it was hitting the caps if you want a more informed opinion on that part...
fiberfan
@fiberfan
Jul 26 2017 21:45
@rodzilla55 Since it doesn't work, postage if postage is expensive otherwise nothing.