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Sep 2017
Darryl Schick
@darrylschick
Sep 14 2017 01:08
Still having problems with the edison freezing up. It stops suddenly with full battery and nothing abnormal in the logs. It is necessary to hold the reset button to restart it. What can cause this? I am using oref0 last updated about a week ago. The only thing we changed before this started happening was enabling bluetooth. Bluetooth works fine when connected, until the rig freezes after a few hours. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Another question, why does IOB sometimes show as a negative number on the nightscout screen?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 14 2017 01:25
Is your battery fully plugged into the rig?
Darryl Schick
@darrylschick
Sep 14 2017 01:25
@Mackwe Thanks for the suggestion about the charger. We'll try a different charger and cable tonight. I
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 14 2017 01:25
Also, we use the netiob concept - calculating iob above or below your normal basal
So if you've been low temped, you can have negative iob , like a reverse correction
garykidd
@garykidd
Sep 14 2017 01:26
Are spaces a problem in the network name in the network setup script?
Darryl Schick
@darrylschick
Sep 14 2017 01:26
Yeah the battery is secure. And both nights, it happened when she was sleeping so no one was physically touching it at the time.
@danamlewis Wow that is interesting about the netiob!
PopcornPam
@PopcornPam_twitter
Sep 14 2017 01:29
Hey all, I have had a run lately on lipo batteries breaking on me. They are taped on the battery side (so that the wire doesn't get pulled), but now the wires have come loose on the side that connects to the rig. Can't really tape that side. Anyone had this issue and/or come up with a good solution/
Darryl Schick
@darrylschick
Sep 14 2017 01:29
@Mackwe In the moments leading up to the freeze each night, papertrail says "Edison battery at 62% is charged (>= 98%) or likely charging (60-65%)". Could the charger or cable still be causing it to freeze if the battery is full?
PopcornPam
@PopcornPam_twitter
Sep 14 2017 01:29
All of a sudden all 3 of my 2500 batteries broke this week
Luckily I have a 1200 that still works
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 14 2017 01:30
Also make sure edison is seated good on the board
Darryl Schick
@darrylschick
Sep 14 2017 01:31
@danamlewis Well it is screwed together with the recommended hardware pack but I'll have her check to see if it might have come a little loose. She's at college so I can't see it with my own eyes. From what you're saying it sounds more likely to be hardware or charger related than a bluetooth or other comm issue...?
garykidd
@garykidd
Sep 14 2017 01:32
@PopcornPam_twitter happy to solder it for you if you send it my way--I'll mail it back asap....my rigs are all soldered to battery cables without connectors for space reasons
WARNING: this script will back up and remove all of your current wifi configs.
Press Ctrl-C to cancel, or press Enter to continue:

NOTE: Spaces in your network name or password are ok. Do not add quotes.
Enter your network name: GK NETWORK DS
Enter your network password: XXXXXXXXXXX
-sh: cd: /etc/network: No such file or directory
root@edison:~#
Are some symbols problematic in p/w?
Darryl Schick
@darrylschick
Sep 14 2017 01:33
@PopcornPam_twitter We put the battery and board all inside a casette tape box (separated with plastic) so nothing touches or pulls on the wires. They do look fragile.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 14 2017 01:33
@darrylschick correct, I'd rule out hardware first
PopcornPam
@PopcornPam_twitter
Sep 14 2017 01:33
@garykidd, so the batteries are soldered to the rig? How do you change the battery in that case? And yes, I would love to take you up on that.
@darrylschick, do you have an image?
I am not confident enough in my soldering skills to mess with the lipos
garykidd
@garykidd
Sep 14 2017 01:39
I actually just soldered rig #3 battery leads to explorer about 10 mins ago. Can't get script to work...hmmm
Darryl Schick
@darrylschick
Sep 14 2017 01:41
@PopcornPam_twitter yes but trying to figure out how to post a photo
IMAG0800~2.jpg
I do plan to get a 3d case one of these days but for now I drilled holes in the sides of the casette tape case for usb access and ventilation
also the battery in there is not the 2000mah hour battery she is currently using, the one in the photo is an older 500mah
PopcornPam
@PopcornPam_twitter
Sep 14 2017 01:46
oh, thats a bit large for girl pockets
Darryl Schick
@darrylschick
Sep 14 2017 01:47
It's actually only a little larger than the dexcom as you see in the photo. She puts it in a soft zipper case to carry it around. It does keep the wires really well protected though.
garykidd
@garykidd
Sep 14 2017 01:51
GOt ahead of myself.....didnt flash jubilinux...kinda funny.
tynbendad
@tynbendad
Sep 14 2017 06:54
@jodivers fwiw i don't recall that clarity uses the same login as g5 mobile (but it might). you might find more help on the CGM in the cloud fb group...
Mike
@libxmike
Sep 14 2017 07:59
@darrylschick if you have access to 3D printer I can alternate my case design for you battery size, 500mAh is a bit small and will last maybe 4h? https://www.thingiverse.com/UltiMike/designs
Christian Driver
@DriverNightscout
Sep 14 2017 09:32
@darrylschick I've had similar freezes overnight when charging via the Edison. I found that the Edison is very temperature sensitive. It gets hotter when charging the battery and seemed to overheat with some chargers (particularly fast chargers). I've only found it an issue with the lipo battery connected and when it is charging - it runs perfectly happily all day on the same charger that seemed to cause the freezes without the lipo battery connected. I actually switched to charging via the USB port on my MacBook (particularly since my daughter tends to use it in the morning when she wakes up anyway!). Since then, I've experimented and found that my regular iPhone charger + USB works pretty reliably also.
jcwarrior
@jcwarrior
Sep 14 2017 11:20

@scottleibrand We had run autotune 3-4 times over NS data before actually begin real use of OpenAPS. Results proposes small changes on some basals and ISF of 610. Now, after 4-5 days of OpenAPS real use, I have run autotune again and basals are ok but ISF has been increased to 741.

I guess the new calculations take in account all the temp basals done by OpenAPS. Am I right? Thank you

dan lightner
@danimaniac
Sep 14 2017 12:48
@darrylschick What is a cassette tape? Kidding, of course! That photo you posted illustrates our adaptability and creativeness as t1d's...an example of the old and new living together in harmony!
Tom Boudreau
@TomBoudr_twitter
Sep 14 2017 14:16
general feature Q to ask if this was ever considered...yesterday I thought I had lost my edison rig in a tictac case (luckily it had only fallen into the sill of my car)...do we ever register the last known locations of the rig to NS or somewhere? I realize not everyone would want this, but might be handy. If anyone concurs let me know.
scharfenort
@scharfenort
Sep 14 2017 14:26

Hi all,
I am running the openAPS on an Raspberry as a Nightscout Uploader (my Veo pump is not loopable....)

In Nightscout sometime the bolus informations are on the button .... Do you know why?

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Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Sep 14 2017 14:32
@TomBoudr_twitter The edison itself doesn't have any way of knowing its location.
There might be things you can upload to help give clues (like wifi network name, or public ip address, or some way of querying an uploader phone)
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 14 2017 14:34
^ yup, unless you add a tile (which may interfered with comms? Would need testing) or a chip for gps. I think someone was doing that (gps) for his daughters rig but not sure he ever shared details
@scharfenort I assume it's just funky rendering
Chris Oattes
@cjo20
Sep 14 2017 14:35
Just clipping the rig to your belt like Dana does might be a suitable low-tech solution
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 14 2017 14:36
Belt, pocket, bag, etc. (my receiver in my pocket slips out all the time, but I've never had a rig fall off with the tiny carabiner)
scharfenort
@scharfenort
Sep 14 2017 14:40
@danamlewis I have it on all devices. And it seems always, if we use the bolusexpert with a "bloody Bloodsugar" sent from stick....
Glenn Primack
@primags
Sep 14 2017 14:47
I just want to make sure I am understanding - in order to get IOB on the nighscout screen, folks are entering this data manually into care portal? Is there anyone automagically getting this info from their pump?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 14 2017 14:50
@primags everyone's who is closed looping is uploading from pumps
If you're not looping, you'd have to manually enter all treatments to get iob calc displaying
Glenn Primack
@primags
Sep 14 2017 14:51
So the Edison board is able to communicate with the older pumps in order to get this info?
Ok, this is making more sense. Was wondering how folks who were not looping were getting that data from devices such as a tslim.
If I manually bolus with an injection (lets say to correct) instead of using my pump, I suppose I will have to disconnect my pump and do a fake bolus to make the numbers match? Or is there another way to update this value easily.
You can read from newer Medtronic pumps as well; just not write (which is needed for closed looping?
Yes, if you manually inject you'd want to bolus into the air; and/or set a higher temp target (because if you're injecting chances are you have a bad site or something so your injection is going to pack more of a punch and you want a higher target to prevent a low afterward)
@scharfenort may be something from that uploaded then; I don't think we have many people using it so haven't seen that before, you'd have to ask someone more familiar with that uploaded
Glenn Primack
@primags
Sep 14 2017 15:00
Thanks Dana, that clears it up.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Sep 14 2017 16:30
@jcwarrior when closed looping and not doing a lot of correction boluses, autotune has a bias toward overestimating ISF. If you're not confident it's needed, I would not use the higher ISF for manual corrections. It's safe to loop with, though, because the higher ISF just makes the loop more conservative.
jcwarrior
@jcwarrior
Sep 14 2017 16:35
thank you @scottleibrand. I will run again autotune in 3-4 days and check results
David
@davidkeddydb
Sep 14 2017 18:54
@scottleibrand Working on another rig to get 0.6.0-dev on with new curves. How do I get openaps-install.sh, after I have done cd ~/src/oref0 && git pull && git checkout 0.6.0-dev && git pull and npm run global-install to not give me this message and I assume just want to install master and not dev: Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/master'.
Already up-to-date.
Press Enter to run oref0-setup with the current release (master branch) of oref0,
or press ctrl-c to cancel.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Sep 14 2017 18:58
you can cancel the bootstrap install script there and run oref0-setup manually (after doing the git checkout 0.6.0-dev and related stuff you mentioned)
David
@davidkeddydb
Sep 14 2017 19:02
I have been spoiled with all of the scripts!
Thanks Scott
Glenn Primack
@primags
Sep 14 2017 19:38
Have you guys heard of anyone running this in a VM? I'm wondering about stationary rigs. I'd like to have one for home and one for work and wondering if I will have to buy the whole setup for those stationary rigs or if I could make it work in a VM that has an added BT/Radio transmitter. Thoughts?
VM=Virtual Machine
Eric
@ecc1
Sep 14 2017 19:57
You could probably make it work if you use a USB radio dongle like the TI stick; I don't know if a serial connection would work. Is this because you don't have a native Linux machine? If you don't mind spending $35, setting up a Raspberry Pi 3 is probably going to be simpler and more reliable.
Glenn Primack
@primags
Sep 14 2017 19:59
I thought maybe have a stationary system running at my desk would be more reliable, but if I can have it be pretty reliable on the $35 setup, I can just do that. And yes, I don't have Linux as my native machine and even if I did I don't think I would be running the version of Linux that this requires.
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Sep 14 2017 20:49
A physical rig will almost certainly be easier to set up and more stable than a VM.
Darryl Schick
@darrylschick
Sep 14 2017 22:13
@DriverNightscout Thanks for sharing that... it might be what is happening. I'll have her try to charge it from her laptop USB port tonight, and maybe leave the case open for more ventilation. We changed charging cables last night and it still froze up around 2 AM.
@libxmike We don't acutally use the 500mah battery, I only used it until the 2000 arrived. And I might buy a 2500 soon. That's why I'm not getting a 3d case just yet...
Is it normal for one of the red lights to flash alternately with a green light like in the video I just uploaded?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Sep 14 2017 22:27
haven't watched the video, but each light should blink once when it mmtunes
(it's resetting the radio first)
Craig Brenner
@cbrenner
Sep 14 2017 23:46
Trying to get some guidance here:
(1) If my son is getting 1 to 1.5 hours of low/"0" temping after meals, if this indicative of his carb ratio being too aggressive for these meals or might there be something else we need to consider.
(2) On the other end, if he underestimates his meal carbs and leaves it to the OpenAPS AMA to high temp him back to a normal range but ends up having too much IOB and goes low, what variables might need tweaking? Would this be the '"current_basal_safety_multiplier', pumps 'max basal rate', something else?
dan lightner
@danimaniac
Sep 14 2017 23:49
G5 transmitter died quicker than expected after low battery warning, so no cgm values available for temp basal calculations. Will I now be using my pre-programed pump basal rates or will I be using my autotuned basal rates?
dan lightner
@danimaniac
Sep 14 2017 23:58
I will be changing the batteries as soon as I can, but probably not for a day or two.
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Sep 14 2017 23:59
Pump basal rates. No data no looping. So you may want to check and see if you want to adjust your pump basal rates based on Autotune results