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Oct 2018
Abigail Cember
@acember
Oct 14 2018 00:07
Maybe someone can tell me what this "pumphistory too old" error actually means? I'm speculating that it means that some structure called "pumphistory" that contains a timestamp is never being refreshed, and that this indicates that there's a communication problem between the pump and the rig....
Jon Cluck
@cluckj
Oct 14 2018 00:11
yes, and maybe
sometimes it's caused by the last record in the pump being too old
have you looped, set a temp basal, or given a bolus, in the last couple hours?
adenis76
@adenis76
Oct 14 2018 00:13
i am trying to flash jubilinux but three times i am stuck on this: https://imgur.com/DW4myK6
adenis76
@adenis76
Oct 14 2018 01:42
problem was is in dfu-util.exe. i am downloaded win64 version from here:http://dfu-util.sourceforge.net/releases/
jalonergan
@jalonergan
Oct 14 2018 03:53
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Trying to setup OpenAPS on Raspberry Pi and keep running into error shown in pic. Any suggestions?
lottainkeri
@lottainkeri
Oct 14 2018 07:37
Hi all, http://www.jubilinux.org/dist/ site seems to be down. How to get the jubilinux now?
GMG
@ggirling
Oct 14 2018 07:44
Hi. Posted this earlier, but I think it was when the NWern hemisphere was asleep and not many awake. I'm trying to set up a new rig and when I run the cd && ~/src/oref0/bin/oref0-setup.sh it returns the following error:
Could not run nightscout autoconfigure-device-crud
After getting confirmation that auto configure for NS has run, the full message is this
added process://ns/nightscout/ns NIGHTSCOUT_HOST API_SECRET
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/openaps-import", line 26, in <module>
    class ImportToolApp (cli.ConfigApp):
  File "/usr/local/bin/openaps-import", line 37, in ImportToolApp
    MAP = get_importable( )
  File "/usr/local/bin/openaps-import", line 21, in get_importable
    mod = entry.load( )
  File "/home/.rootfs/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 2188, in load
    self.require(env, installer)
  File "/home/.rootfs/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 2202, in require
    items = working_set.resolve(reqs, env, installer)
  File "/home/.rootfs/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 644, in resolve
    raise VersionConflict(dist, req)
pkg_resources.VersionConflict: (six 1.8.0 (/home/.rootfs/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages), Requirement.parse('six>=1.9'))
Could not run nightscout autoconfigure-device-crud
Any ideas how to fix? Thanks for any help!
Matt Kupisz
@rumil
Oct 14 2018 08:36
@lottainkeri use alternate URL (as in docs): https://files.aps.builders/jubilinux-v0.2.0.zip
lottainkeri
@lottainkeri
Oct 14 2018 08:37
@rumil Thanks a lot! I missed that link.
N3FM
@N3FM
Oct 14 2018 14:54
I'm thinking about how a user might coordinate multiple rigs (example, rigs scattered around the house, switching as the user moves from room to room). Would it make sense to share additional info among rigs, via mlab storage (autotune, mmtune frequency, etc)? I assume any solution would have to resolve which rig's calculations would be sorted/shared. Has anyone put effort into this? (Also, when a rig is turned on, retrieve latest info...).
leslie deutsch
@46569002d_gitlab
Oct 14 2018 15:24
Hi
I"m using a 670g is there any way to modify software?
Dana Lewis
@danamlewis
Oct 14 2018 15:45
@N3FM we copy Autotune but that's about it
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 14 2018 16:21
@ggirling have you tried dev?
leslie deutsch
@46569002d_gitlab
Oct 14 2018 17:05
mostly trying get rid of redundant keystrokes and adjust max basal in auto mode in 670g
adenis76
@adenis76
Oct 14 2018 17:15
is there any easy step by step instruction how to change units to mmol?
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 14 2018 17:19
Of what?
adenis76
@adenis76
Oct 14 2018 17:21
for start i will like to have mmol in nightscout openaps pill
Scott Leibrand
@scottleibrand
Oct 14 2018 17:39
There is a mmol setting in NS: you have that already?
alimhassam
@alimhassam
Oct 14 2018 17:58
And one on the pump boluswizard setup
adenis76
@adenis76
Oct 14 2018 18:19
My nighstscout and xdrip are showing mmol but pill from openaps shows everything in mg. https://imgur.com/XD4zV3k
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 19:52
Hello
I've been looking around for information on openAPS, trying to figure out what the minimum setup required for it is - particularly whether it's likely to work with any pump that's actually likely to be prescribed in the UK at the moment.
Is this a reasonable place to discuss that sort of thing?
@HuffCam there's a list of supported pumps, in short only old medtronic models
Or AndroidAPS with accu-chek combo or with Dana R or RS
jalonergan
@jalonergan
Oct 14 2018 21:33
Reposting as post may have gotten buried. Installing OpenAPS on Raspberry Pi, executed "sudo bash
curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openaps/oref0/dev/bin/openaps-install.sh > /tmp/openaps-install.sh && bash /tmp/openaps-install.sh." Getting fatal error when the script goes to "sudo: unable to resolve host raspberrypi
Collecting openaps
Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement openaps (from versions: )
No matching distribution found for openaps" --- anyone else see this error?
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:33
Thanks @viq. I looked at that.
I assume there's some technical reason Omnipod isn't happening?
To be able to control something, you have to be able to talk to it. Noone knows the protocol that omnipod uses
There's some work on it, but it's happening in Loop on iPhones
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:35
I did wonder.
It seemed that the current approach involves a fairly high-complexity stack of hardware and software, when computationally it's well within the capability of a modern phone.
"high complexiti stack of hardware and software" describes modern phones well :P
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:36
Yes, but you're not asking the user to build it with a soldering iron, you know?
But also you have the fact that medtronic pumps use non-standard radio frequency to communicate, so you need extra hardware for that
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:37
This may be a stupid question, but this is all being done without the collaboration of the pump manufacturers, right?
Or with their active hostility in most cases. Accu-Chek Combo is possible to control by AndroidAPS. Roche comment about it is "we did not describe that use in the manual, therefore you lose warranty"
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:38
To be honest I can understand why. One day there will be a significant SNAFU and someone will get hurt.
I think the notable exception here is Sooil with Dana pumps, where they actually in product description mention compatibilty with OpenAPS (by which they mean AndroidAPS)
Though there is some movement into developing open, compatible protocols for newer pumps
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:39
The reason I came by is that I have some experience with software-defined radio and if there's any way I can be useful...
I'm just a partially informed bystander, can't answer that question. The creators of the project can be good people to ask at first.
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:41
I don't mean to vent too much, but I'm pretty disgusted there isn't a commercial version of what's being done here.
Perhaps that's a common feeling, I don't know.
Well, 670g kinda is that, and I heard tandems are to get an update next year that will be doing that
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:42
It would be nice if it were at a price that the NHS in the UK were ever likely to be willing to pay for.
Also, I believe you can get Dana RS in UK, which will work out of the box with AndroidAPS
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:42
I should explain, I recently lost a friend to diabetes and that's my motivation.
Are you diabetic yourself?
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:43
No.
This is one problem: I don't have access to anyone who uses this stuff anymore.
Ah. In that case, very commendable :)
viq @viq nods
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:44
the whole experience has made me very, very respectful of anyone who manages to deal with it.
@HuffCam https://reddit.com/r/diabetes has a discord, there's a few people from UK there, at least some of them with pumps I think, you could try there
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:45
Ha. I happen to know that my late friend had a rather rocky introduction to that discord :)
oh?
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:46
it's a long story with a miserable ending
but I think if there'd been a plug-and-go version of this closed loop stuff it might actually have helped
viq @viq nods
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:47
in my experience there's very little new under the sun and most manufacturers use very off the shelf radio hardware for this sort of thing
Or start using bluetooth
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:48
I was actually a bit alarmed by the fact that it could basically be hacked that easily.
It is unfortunately not very surprising that even in medical devices people are being so sloppy, that's the way of the world.
Oh, speaking of, I saw something on local ebay equivalent that blew me away - someone selling the libre transmitters like nightrider or miao - with phones preconfigured to talk to them, service including a nightscout instance :D
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:49
Ha.
That's the Bluecon thing
right?
Sorry if I seem uninformed. I only know about any of this by proxy.
I just heard the bluecon name, don't remember if it's a concept or specific product
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:52
I googled. It's made by Ambrosia Systems and they call it "blucon nightrider." It pings the NFC on the libre and bluetooths into the phone.
But generally "box you put on top of sensor that supports just NFC to make it talk over bluetooth to a phone"
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:52
Tidy little arrangement.
It was repeatedly suggested as being a good idea because it solves the "scared to go to sleep" issue.
Which I can get.
yeah, though I heard horror stories about their (lack of) customer support. Myself I have a https://www.miaomiao.cool/ though I was aiming for https://bluetoolz.de/blueorder/
I got that precisely because I was getting woken up by lows several times a week
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:54
I saw I think three lows
one of which she was staggering around like a drunk, being really shouty
that was fairly easy to deal with
the others were more subtle but harder to deal with, "I'm fine." Er, no, you're not.
It wasn't fun.
Imagine being fast asleep, and suddenly being woken up by interrogation lamp in your face while someone drops a very angry cat in your lap, while also feeling exhaustion like after exercising for several hours
It's that kind of feeling
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:56
Yes, I've had it described to me a lot.
And it takes over an hour to be able to get back to sleep
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:57
The person I'm describing was a work colleague (and friend) and the "angry drunk" routine happened in the middle of the night.
We were traveling, which I understand doens't help.
yeah
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 21:59
I felt terrible, but she'd said it would be fine, and I didn't want to be the Evil Boss.
Daft question. If someone knew what they were doing, how often would it be normal for that to happen?
"depends". Finally after reading a book I know a bit more what I'm doing, after being diabetic for multiple years, and I just dropped the dose of long acting insulin from doctor's recommended 10u to 8u, and need to observe some more (which is annoying since you need to not eat and not take insulin for ideally 8+ hours), but it looks like that dosage may be a bit too low for the day while being too high for the night
That's for night lows. As for "numbers out of range" during "normal life"... It will happen. Unless you know exactly how much is on your plate, how much exercise you're going to be doing, how much stress you're going to get, etc.
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 22:05
this was the problem we had
she was a perfectionist and she couldn't deal with the randomness
Time for me to head out, g'night
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 22:06
Nice chatting. Let me know if I can be any help, anyway.
adenis76
@adenis76
Oct 14 2018 22:43
Now i see that maybe I am not be clear with previous question. I want openaps logs and pill in nightscout to show data in mmol not in mg. Is there some simple and step by step manual for that?
HuffCam
@HuffCam
Oct 14 2018 23:31
I'm new to this conversation but I assume you're talking about the difference between US and UK customary units.
And that openAPS works in the former?