@catmando don't get me wrong, I love rails and will use it for whenever it's appropriate, I was just saying that I not being bound to rails is a perk, react.rb was much more bound to rails than the current hyperstack. But that said, given all the mindshare behind React, it'd be silly to not use hyperstack, I don't want to have to write my own widgets as much as possible, which would be the big drawback of clearwater for me
@fkchang no but I am trying to understand the general use case where rails is perhaps NOT appropriate. Don't get me wrong intuitively we all agree decoupling from rails (i.e. just make it a rack middle ware) is the right approach if only from a maintenance perspective, but at the moment its "intuition" so that doesn't always lead to the best design choices.
so I am looking for the underlying reason somebody might want hyperstack but no rails...
well apart from the case that you have an existing API, and you are using hyperstack just on the client side. Kind of Hypstk
@catmando in general, if I'm mucking around I'll probably default to rails unless indicated elsewise, simply because whenever I've had, for example, a sinatra app that lasted any amount of time, I've ended up re implementing parts of rails - unless it's pure API. That said, there times where I want lighter, or faster or less bloated websocket support, I think in a number of cases I'd lean towards roda - though it's been a while and I probably forgot how to develop roda. And as always, I'd like consider a hyperstack/crystal app as appropriate for somethings (like speedy websocket support that doesn't require another process to push)
but otherwise, I've reimplemented too many parts of rails to not use rails unless indicated I shouldn't, in general
yes those are good points. In particular its motivation for getting hyperstack directly implemented on Rack so its as fast as possible. BTW what would u use for websocket support outside of rails? Currently Hyperstack support rails action-cable, pusher.com and simple polling. Is there some other standard packages we should think of having direct support for?
@fkchang @catmando ^^
@jgaskins just stumbled on that the other day, btw, good job
@bwl21 Same here, I did try to compile Prawn with Opal but there's still some missing implementations: opal/opal#1697
With a lot of hacks Prawn was running in JavaScript but did not work as expected
Since we are now using web technologies to generate PDF, I stopped working on it
Might not work for you if you want a client-side (in the browser) solution
For example custom designs that are rendered using a combination of svg, html 5 and lots of opal and js like this one here https://hyperloop.catprint.com/drafts/new/doodle/1/1261/personalize?category=Holidays&per_page=12
Are then rendered to a print ready PDF Using puppeteer
The customer service department takes in cats that need to find homes. They stay a few weeks or a few months. I don’t know how many we have taken care of over the years maybe 30? They are not allowed in the factory cause they would get hurt, and they could damage the machinery.
Yes we also add all crop marks, bar codes, and other details by layering PDF images that are generated from html / svg. It all goes through wkhmtltopdf ( soon puppeteer)
It’s a Separate Sinatra app that runs on a cloud hosted scalable server farm
The main site is a Hyperstack app
I really want to know more about this part. Currently I'm generating a A5 flyer (the pdf size is A5) but in order to add crop marks, bar codes, colors etc.. the pdf size should be bigger but I don't really know how to add layers on an existing pdf and if I want to add these details in the source HTML I will need to use a lot of absolute positioning :pensive:
the problem is we have a method like this:
def foo(arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4 = SOME_CONST)
...
puts "arg4 is true" if arg4
puts "!arg4 is false" unless !arg4 # <---INTERMITTENTLY this line will not print when the line above and below prints!
puts "!!arg4 is true" if !!arg4
...
end
yes its that bizarre
we see
however we can't reproduce it in a simple example, we are seeing this in a method used a lot in Hyperstack, and only on safari, and only when the app is minified
we have looked at the minified code, and minification seems to have done nothing incorrect
oh and the problem is intermittent
as in we can do the same sequence and sometimes the bad thing will happen, and other times it won't
oh and if we add more debugging puts and console.log statements the problem frequency goes down
we are thinking some bizarre safari bug???
