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    Ted Young
    @tedsuo
    @AustinSchoen python is coming along well, and the repo contains several example applications: https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-python/tree/master/examples/
    Austin Schoen
    @AustinSchoen
    Ah nice, thank you!
    Ted Young
    @tedsuo
    btw, @codeboten has also been writing some blog posts on python: https://lightstep.com/blog/authors/alex-boten/
    Yusuke Tsutsumi
    @toumorokoshi
    @AustinSchoen if you want a rundown on some parts or want to discuss notes, Id be happy to do a call with you. Also might help us (python dig) understand more esoteric parts of the python implementation.
    Morgan McLean
    @mtwo
    @tigrannajaryan added you
    Tigran Najaryan
    @tigrannajaryan
    @mtwo thanks.
    Bob Strecansky
    @bobstrecansky
    Hey! I need to have someone added as a reviewer to the opentelemetry-php project. Can anyone help me do this?
    Ted Young
    @tedsuo
    @bobstrecansky do you mean approver? Or community member? As maintainer you should be able to add them to the organization, and to the php-approvers team. If you do not have permission yet, @SergeyKanzhelev @carlosalberto or @yurishkuro should be able to set you up.
    Bob Strecansky
    @bobstrecansky
    @tedsuo - I tried to add @AustinSchoen to the organization but it appears I don’t have the ability to add people to the organization. It appears that I have the ability to add people to the opentelemetry-php reviewers group after @AustinSchoen is added to the organization.
    Ted Young
    @tedsuo
    Well, ain’t that funky
    Bob Strecansky
    @bobstrecansky
    Yeah; I believe they are two different sets of permissions, but I’m just guessing based on behavior.
    Ted Young
    @tedsuo
    Yeah, I would assume that maintainers should have permission to add org members as well. @SergeyKanzhelev can you take a look?
    Sergey Kanzhelev
    @SergeyKanzhelev
    I don't think there is a way to allow maintainers to add member even from simple GitHub permissions model
    Open an issue against the OpenTelemetry/community repo
    Ensure your sponsors are @mentioned on the issue
    Complete every item on the checklist (preview the current version of the template)
    Make sure that the list of contributions included is representative of your work on the project.
    @bobstrecansky once added to the org based on the process described above- you can add a member to the team yoruself: https://github.com/orgs/open-telemetry/teams/php-approvers/members
    Bob Strecansky
    @bobstrecansky
    Perfect. Thanks for the explanation @SergeyKanzhelev !
    Ryan MacLean
    @ryanmaclean
    @evankanderson good read! Added a few suggestions
    Evan Anderson
    @evankanderson
    Thanks for the read-over. I'll probably try implementing a simple controller to create Observations based on the top-level OwnerReference of Pods in the next week or two. Any suggestions about what type of observation would be useful for a first pass?
    I'm torn between log access/dumping and prometheus dashboards, but would be happy to chat with anyone who has a particular agenda they want met.
    Vineeth Reddy
    @VineethReddy02_twitter
    Hello Everyone,
    CNCF is participating in a community bridge program that allows folks to work on projects under CNCF in a proper mentorship/funded manner. As Open telemetry has a lot of work to be done, we could greatly be benefited from this. I personally, would love to be a mentee under this program. It would be awesome if we could find some parts/features of the project that can be done under this program.
    Thanks :slightly_smiling_face:
    https://github.com/cncf/soc/tree/master/communitybridge
    Rafael Jesus
    @rafaeljesus
    Hey peeps, does otel offers auto instrumentation wrappers like opencensus?
    Gustavo Silva Paiva
    @paivagustavo
    Yes @rafaeljesus, in the specs these are referred as Instrumentation Adapters. I think these will start to become more popular once the APIs are more stable.
    Rafael Jesus
    @rafaeljesus
    @paivagustavo thank you
    Liz Fong-Jones
    @lizthegrey
    https://twitter.com/paulosman/status/1204085748598804480 -- Paul Osman is joining Honeycomb and will be working on OTel :)
    so expect to see him around the community as soon as he starts!
    bputt
    @bputt
    is there any implementation written for spring jms yet or are there plans to? asking for a friend
    John Watson
    @jkwatson
    @bputt join in the fun in the opentelemetry-java SIG and help us build it!
    bputt
    @bputt
    @jkwatson i'm working on it, trying to get buy in from work ;)
    Mark Robert Henderson
    @aphelionz
    Hey folks! I'm here from the Haja Networks / OrbitDB team and I've been encouraged to reach out and talk to you about creating an Open Telemetry + OrbitDB adapter, similar to https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-js/tree/master/packages/opentelemetry-plugin-mongodb-core. Just wanted to introduce myself and say hi :wave:
    Morgan McLean
    @mtwo
    FYI starting in January we're shifting the community meetings to take place on the fourth Wednesday of each month, rather than the second Wednesday of each month
    doing this so that they don't occur on the same week as the monthly public governance meetings
    I've already updated the shared calendar to reflect this
    Rajib Mitra
    @rajibmitra
    Hi Everyone, can anyone please guide me how to get started on this issue
    open-telemetry/opentelemetry.io#59
    I would like to contribute to it as part of community bridge program, if its ok
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    @rajibmitra:matrix.org hi
    Mark Robert Henderson
    @aphelionz
    sweet! I'll be there
    Joshua MacDonald
    @jmacd
    (The meeting ended early as we ran out of discussion topics. But I've got AIs to continue filing GH issues for things that are only covered in meeting notes. The above document has a list of topics we covered.)
    Mark Robert Henderson
    @aphelionz
    shoot im sorry, I got pulled away
    Looking at the doc now
    Joshua MacDonald
    @jmacd
    If you'd like to chat the #metrics-specs room is open and I'm happy to discuss in there.
    (I believe I've shared the document properly now.)
    Pranay Prateek
    @pranay01_twitter
    Hi, probably a n00b question. I went through few videos on OpenTelemetry, still have few question.
    1. Once open telemetry is stable, will we be able to use it for sending metrics to Prometheus? Will it be a replacement for node-exporters, and other exporters which are there in prometheus ecosystem?
    1. In video demos by Liz, I saw open telemetry being used with Jaegar. Is this project focused on tracing primarily? Or this will work with Prometheus / Grafana ecosystem also?
    Liz Fong-Jones
    @lizthegrey
    Yes, I didn't have time to demo, but yes it does export to Prometheus already as well as to statsd
    Mats Taraldsvik
    @meastp

    When using OpenTelemetry together with a database (e.g. PostgreSQL) it would be extremely helpful to be able to retrieve extended information about a problematic query sometimes. There are multiple alternatives:

    1. The database uses OTel in its codebase, providing a configuration parameter for when to add extended information (e.g. PostgreSQL's auto_explain 2s could set the record span bit to 1 for all queries using more than 2s, and add an annotation/attribute/event with the EXPLAIN output to the span). Most queries would not have a span from the database side.

    2. Always run the span in the database, and EXPLAIN output if the query duration is longer than auto_explain's 2s.

    3. some other mechanism?

    Will there be other mechanisms that controls when the spans are recorded?

    I think this kind of functionality could make profiling (simple/most) database query problems easier :) Also, I guess there is need for knobs to enable/disable certain traces when the application is not experiencing problems...

    Ted Young
    @tedsuo

    @meastp I would suggest that the solution is to have detailed and thorough semantic conventions for every common database. We’re actively working out what those conventions should be, so this is a good time to get involved.

    Once we have specified a set of attributes for desribing common databases, filtering rules for those attributes can be specified as well. Filtering can then be installed at various points in the telemetry system; for example, as spanprocessor plugins for every language, as config options for collectors and sidecars, or as content policies for L7 network proxies.