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    Yuri Shkuro
    @yurishkuro
    Technical Committee Charter
    Peter Marton
    @hekike
    Hi, I'm struggling to implement the Zipkin exporter for JavaScript as I don't find good documentation about their model. Is there anything more specific than this JSON payload: https://zipkin.io/pages/data_model.html and the Java Span Class? https://github.com/openzipkin/zipkin/blob/master/zipkin/src/main/java/zipkin2/Span.java Would it make sense to create an OpenTelemetry to Zipkin mapping spec which all the language can follow? Like what to do with our Span.Status (set as tag?) and non-existing concepts like our SpanKind.Internal, etc.
    Yuri Shkuro
    @yurishkuro
    Peter Marton
    @hekike
    @yurishkuro thank you!
    Tristan Sloughter
    @tsloughter
    we need to have at least one more person, @hauleth , added to the opentelemetry org so that he can approve PRs on opentelemetry-erlang. or if I could have permissions to add collaborators on opentelemetry-erlang that would be even better.
    Bogdan Drutu
    @bogdandrutu
    Hi Tristan, please file an issue with the proposed person on the community repo and I will add them. Then we can add them to CODEOWNERS
    This tool from GitHub sounds very interesting
    Austin Parker
    @austinlparker
    woah, thats cool
    Bogdan Drutu
    @bogdandrutu
    I will give a try and enable it for js and go initially to see how it is.
    Tristan Sloughter
    @tsloughter
    @bogdandrutu great, thanks
    Bogdan Drutu
    @bogdandrutu
    @austinlparker I didn't do anything and I have that feature enabled, I think is a subset of users who do have that
    Austin Parker
    @austinlparker
    yeah, I don’t see it for myself
    Bogdan Drutu
    @bogdandrutu
    :( sorry
    @tsloughter I need a +1 on that issue from them and also make sure that the requirements are fine
    Tristan Sloughter
    @tsloughter
    k, I let him know
    Kelly Thomas Kline
    @kellytk
    If it's possible for mutually beneficial cooperation to exist between OpenTelemetry/https://github.com/opentracing/opentracing-rust and https://github.com/tokio-rs/tracing what would that look like?
    Yusuke Tsutsumi
    @toumorokoshi

    @kellytk from the looks of the tokio-rs/tracing library, it looks like the intention is a big different than what opentelemetry / opentracing are designed for. Rather than the emitting of various events, opentelemetry is specifically designed for the emitting of specific types of telemetry. Namely, distributed traces, metrics, and logs.

    That all said, the idea of logging specific event points is really interesting. In OTelemetry we have a concept of metric measures that I could see working closely with emitting events, since the latter could be a raw format that feeds into an aggregated former.

    Actually thinking a bit more, you can almost get the behavior you're looking for assuming the following:
    1. the OpenTelemetry library is designed to stream events rather than perform the aggregation as part of the event production.
    2. we author an exporter that writes to stdout. Then you have something that looks like tokio-rs/tracing but instead uses OT primitives under the hood.
    Kelly Thomas Kline
    @kellytk
    @toumorokoshi Thank you, I'll think that over
    Tristan Sloughter
    @tsloughter
    I was going to say it looks like OTel would be something that hooks into tokio-rs/tracing to listen for trace events
    this is similar to a case in erlang/elixir community that has a telemetry application for emitting structures events. users then instrument with that library to emit trace events and OTel subscribes and creates/updates spans based on those events
    Chris Kleinknecht
    @c24t
    I see @thomashchan1 and @tedsuo are OOO, is anyone else hosting the data format SIG?
    Joshua MacDonald
    @jmacd
    Hi - we just discussed cancelling this meeting because we don't have the organizer and Zoom won't start.
    Chris Kleinknecht
    @c24t
    ok, that works for me
    Ryan
    @rnburn
    Hey everyone, I put in a proposal for an OpenTelemetry C++ SDK based off of the streaming tracer we developed at LightStep.
    open-telemetry/opentelemetry-cpp#2
    Let me know if you have any feedback. Thanks.
    Joshua MacDonald
    @jmacd
    ^ discussion in the opentelemetry-cpp room
    Kelly Thomas Kline
    @kellytk
    "and Zoom won't start" 2019 and video conferencing is still hit-or-miss
    Juraci Paixão Kröhling
    @jpkrohling
    hey there -- is there an up to date container image for opentelemetry-service? are images being published somewhere?
    Dale Peakall
    @subnova
    Is there a timeline for planned language support?
    Armin Ruech
    @arminru
    Hi everyone - I just had a look at the community calendar and noticed that all regular meetings this week were cancelled.
    Did this happen on purpose? I would've expected something like that to be discussed in the last community or SIG spec meeting but there's nothing in the meeting notes nor on Gitter, did I miss something?
    Tigran Najaryan
    @tigrannajaryan
    @jpkrohling version 0.0.1 (first and only version released so far) is available as omnition/opentelemetry-service:v0.0.1 at docker.
    Ted Young
    @tedsuo
    @arminru I just noticed this as well. It’s a surprise to everyone so far, so I’m assuming it is a SNAFU.
    Ted Young
    @tedsuo
    Looks like an off-by-one error in an update to the calendar led to this week being empty. I went ahead and restored the events.
    Armin Ruech
    @arminru
    @tedsuo Thanks!
    Juraci Paixão Kröhling
    @jpkrohling
    @tigrannajaryan are the next releases going to be published under the opentelemetry namespace ?
    Ben Sigelman
    @bhs

    kind of misc, but I wanted to direct some attention towards open-telemetry/community#163

    TL;DR, I would like OpenTelemetry to have some “soft” guidelines on how we treat each other (as well as newcomers to the project). This is not about harrassment and other “bannable” / code-of-conduct infractions, but more about our aspirations for communication and how we treat each other. Happy to take any and all feedback, including “this is a bad idea for <reason>”.

    Juraci Paixão Kröhling
    @jpkrohling
    @tigrannajaryan, @owais, do you have any news about the operator for opentelemetry? open-telemetry/opentelemetry-service#274 -- I really want to kick start this, but if you have started some work on that already, I'd love to collaborate instead of creating something new...
    Dan Bentley
    @dbentley_twitter
    (This is my first time in gitter, so sorry if I have the wrong room) I asked a question about recording span events, and Liz Fong-Jones pointed me at https://github.com/open-telemetry/rfcs/pull/24/files , but I realized my question is less about sampling and more about when things are recorded. With OpenTelemetry, is there any way to record/export (not sure about terminology!) a span when it's started, in addition to when it's finished?
    Krzesimir Nowak
    @krnowak
    @dbentley_twitter : I'd say it's up to SDK that implements the opentelemetry API. For example, in opentelemetry-go, there is an experimental streaming SDK that records a bunch of events (https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-go/blob/master/experimental/streaming/exporter/observer/observer.go)
    Dan Bentley
    @dbentley_twitter
    Perfect! Thank you.
    Jack Lindamood
    @cep21
    Hi, I left some comments on open-telemetry/opentelemetry-go#83 about concerns with the current open telemetry API limiting correct implementation of metrics collection for some providers. I would love to get more clarification on if CloudWatch is intended to be accepted under the open telemetry umbrella and how that is able to best happen. Thanks!
    Ted Young
    @tedsuo
    @jpkrohling that’s great, though I hope we can keep the standard OTel deployment as simple as possible!
    Paulo Janotti
    @pjanotti
    @jpkrohling regarding dockerhub for the Service we need to setup a opentelemetry org in dockerhub, ideally we should do it under the umbrella of CNCF. I'm creating an issue on the Service repo to track that open-telemetry/opentelemetry-service#281
    Juraci Paixão Kröhling
    @jpkrohling
    @tedsuo not sure what you mean -- the deployment itself would probably just be similar to the current kubernetes resources (examples/k8s.yaml)
    if you mean that it could be more complex for a user to try it out, I agree, and we can keep the current examples/k8s.yaml there. An operator is really helpful for a production deployment though, especially if it's able to handle day 2 operations
    at least, that's what our experience with the jaeger operator shows :)
    we need to setup a opentelemetry org in dockerhub
    @pjanotti there seems to exist one already, just without images published
    Paulo Janotti
    @pjanotti
    @jpkrohling hum, I didn't find that org, can you send me a link to it? We will need to work with whom is managing that so we can publish it there.