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  • Aug 10 2016 10:27
    ndkv labeled #9
  • Aug 10 2016 10:27
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  • Aug 10 2016 10:27
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Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
At Hacking For Sustainability we strive for frictionless/careless hacking, see http://data.openstate.eu/about :)
Willy Tadema
@FrieseWoudloper
My name is Willy Bakker. I work as an information policy advisor at the Province of Groningen. I specialize in open data and geospatial information. In my spare time I contribute to OpenStreetMap.
Bart Spee
@Legolias_twitter
Hi I'm Bart working at Provincie Zuid-Holland. One of the partners in the Hackathon. I can tell you more about our data if you have questions or maybe find some more data if you need it. Part of my job is working with open data with a background in geo-information.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
Very important @creepywaterbug one of our sidegoals is to learn with governments how to make use of data better/easier/more open
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
I am Eric, working for the open data project of the Province of South Holland.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
@attexx could you say something about yourself?
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
Cool, thanks all.
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
I am curious who is working with our data in the app competition.
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
@RichardTukker_twitter Can you tell us a bit about your development work? On which part(s) of the Atlas are you working?
@EricTerlien_twitter We are also very curious. Has anyone contacted you with questions?
@Legolias_twitter We were wondering whether you have data about the locations of farms.
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
Only Willy Bakker from Groningen so far.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
I don't think there is anyone else present at the moment who is using your data but there could well be more people
Richard Tukker
@RichardTukker_twitter
I'm starting collecting new idea's to innovate Atlas Leefomgeving and Atlas Natuurlijk Kapitaal.
Bart Spee
@Legolias_twitter
I don't think we have data about farms.
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
@Legolias_twitter Something like Bestand Veehouderijbedrijven
@RichardTukker_twitter Cool, so we should spam you with feature requests? :innocent:
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
are you sure @Legolias_twitter ? seems logical provinces have data on farmers
Willy Tadema
@FrieseWoudloper
I had two questions: The wandelroutenetwerk data only contains routes, no nodes ('knooppunten'). Can these nodes become available also? (Answer: no, they're not available.) And secondly, what is the meaning of the 7 different domain values in the field nieuw_bestaand?
Bart Spee
@Legolias_twitter
There are some laws on this area, but they are mostly about big Pig en chicken farms and those aren't located in South Holland
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
We have the data from the firm register. So the location of the firms who are acting in the agricultural sector.
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
@AtlasLO_twitter @RichardTukker_twitter I'm curious: do you get a lot of questions and data requests (from developers)?
Richard Tukker
@RichardTukker_twitter
@ndkv You can. :smile: I'm curious about them, but shall be selective.
Willy Tadema
@FrieseWoudloper
@clien_twitter After Farmhack I also looked into the veehouderijbedrijven, but I don't think Groningen has these data either.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
interesting
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
Ok, noted! I'll whip up a list after the chat. :)
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
maybe we should ask Ministry of economic affairs?
they might have a central dataset
Atlas Leefomgeving
@AtlasLO_twitter
Not many requests from developers. But we do receive a lot of request for new features in the Atlas
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
@FrieseWoudloper I will do some research for you for the specific meaning of the 7 domains
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
@EricTerlien_twitter Is the data from the register open?
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
No that is not allowed by law. Firms and governments have to buy it, sadly enough.
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
@AtlasLO_twitter Thanks. I'm curious about the things that are requested. You don't have a public list, right?
Ah right, that's the well-known KvK debacle.
That's @arjanelfassed's territory. ;)
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
But maybe it is possible to make a layer for the location of the firms withing the agrigultural sector.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
:)
Willy Tadema
@FrieseWoudloper
@EricTerlien_twitter Are you sure? I think we pay for distribution of the data, not the data itself.
Boyan Nedkov
@attexx
let me say something about me, too :-) my name is Boyan, I am still newbie in your hacking world here so I am still trying to understand what is going in it :-) I am coming from the technology side, having some experience in software and hardware development, I am also interested in such things like how technology could help the society .. so that’s why I am here :-)
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
welcome boyan!
waterbug
@creepywaterbug
welcome @attexx
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
@FrieseWoudloper Yes and no. Because we are not the owner, we cannot make it public. But we are allowed to share it with partners who are working for us with the data.
The partners are not allowed to do other things with the data.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
:worried: interesting
Atlas Leefomgeving
@AtlasLO_twitter
The request for features are above all things to make the viewer more user friendly, like download tools and better means of looking at a map. I think we have gatherd dozens of requests for improving parts of the site. Alwasys things to do :-)
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
Does anybody know who is working with data from the province of South Holland?
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
@AtlasLO_twitter it would be great if along with new features for users, there could be a focus on developer friendlyness as well.
Atlas Leefomgeving
@AtlasLO_twitter
@clien_twitter Good point!
Arjan El Fassed
@arjanelfassed
we asked for re-use of the farm subsidy database from RVO (https://mijn.rvo.nl/openbaarmaking-europese-subsidiegegevens), which is public and online, but this request for re-use was turned down. in the past we used to scrape this. we're currently trying to get approval, because in other EU member states this data is open, as required by the EU.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
he @arjanelfassed welcome!