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  • Aug 10 2016 10:27
    ndkv labeled #9
  • Aug 10 2016 10:27
    ndkv opened #9
  • Aug 10 2016 10:27
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Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
No that is not allowed by law. Firms and governments have to buy it, sadly enough.
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
@AtlasLO_twitter Thanks. I'm curious about the things that are requested. You don't have a public list, right?
Ah right, that's the well-known KvK debacle.
That's @arjanelfassed's territory. ;)
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
But maybe it is possible to make a layer for the location of the firms withing the agrigultural sector.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
:)
Willy Tadema
@FrieseWoudloper
@EricTerlien_twitter Are you sure? I think we pay for distribution of the data, not the data itself.
Boyan Nedkov
@attexx
let me say something about me, too :-) my name is Boyan, I am still newbie in your hacking world here so I am still trying to understand what is going in it :-) I am coming from the technology side, having some experience in software and hardware development, I am also interested in such things like how technology could help the society .. so that’s why I am here :-)
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
welcome boyan!
waterbug
@creepywaterbug
welcome @attexx
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
@FrieseWoudloper Yes and no. Because we are not the owner, we cannot make it public. But we are allowed to share it with partners who are working for us with the data.
The partners are not allowed to do other things with the data.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
:worried: interesting
Atlas Leefomgeving
@AtlasLO_twitter
The request for features are above all things to make the viewer more user friendly, like download tools and better means of looking at a map. I think we have gatherd dozens of requests for improving parts of the site. Alwasys things to do :-)
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
Does anybody know who is working with data from the province of South Holland?
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
@AtlasLO_twitter it would be great if along with new features for users, there could be a focus on developer friendlyness as well.
Atlas Leefomgeving
@AtlasLO_twitter
@clien_twitter Good point!
Arjan El Fassed
@arjanelfassed
we asked for re-use of the farm subsidy database from RVO (https://mijn.rvo.nl/openbaarmaking-europese-subsidiegegevens), which is public and online, but this request for re-use was turned down. in the past we used to scrape this. we're currently trying to get approval, because in other EU member states this data is open, as required by the EU.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
he @arjanelfassed welcome!
Atlas Leefomgeving
@AtlasLO_twitter
Then we need input about how to establish developer friendlynes as well.
waterbug
@creepywaterbug
hello @arjanelfassed
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
we are more than happy to provide you with that
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
@AtlasLO_twitter @clien_twitter and I would love to help you with that!
See? :P
Arjan El Fassed
@arjanelfassed
in the response, RVO was of the opinion that business names and addresses are personal data.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
maybe even a separate session @AtlasLO_twitter
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
Yes, we have tons of ideas.
Atlas Leefomgeving
@AtlasLO_twitter
@clien_twitter @ndkv I think we will definite be inn for that
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
@EricTerlien_twitter We actually don't know whether someone is working with the data...
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
but if anyone is working on something now, and in desperate need of farm locations, lets see how we can find a creative way to get these data!?
so i think the questions above are answered. any other questions?
Anyone with exciting ideas? great examples they would like to share?
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
Or ideas about what to do with all the data?
That includes problems/inefficiencies you encounter during your own activities.
SustHacking apps need not be society facing only; they can also address problems/challenges within government.
waterbug
@creepywaterbug
I have been working on a userfriendly api for the data on water quality of surface waters. source http://waterkwaliteitsportaal.nl
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
yes that is awesome
waterbug
@creepywaterbug
http://openh2o.nl/ihw is for now the result
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
anything in particular you need at the moment?
Arjan El Fassed
@arjanelfassed
we have the data of 2013 (that was the last time we scraped it). this is what we did with it - here you can see the disbursements of EU farm subsidies over the year. http://openstate.carto.com/viz/7802b6fc-1f27-11e4-8d7c-0e230854a1cb/embed_map
Simeon Nedkov
@ndkv
Cool. Is that dataset on data.openstate.eu?
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
If someone is reading this afterwards: you can ask me your questions here or privately.
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
@ndkv no but we can put it there
right @arjanelfassed
Eric Terlien
@EricTerlien_twitter
Interesting @arjanelfassed
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
thanks @EricTerlien_twitter
so i guess @creepywaterbug needs someone who will use his userfriendly api right?
:)
kees kodde
@keeskodde_GP_twitter
Hi everybody, I am Kees from Greenpeace
Corline van Es
@clien_twitter
hi kees! welcome!