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Paradox Alarm Interface

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

No ETA :)

AdrianStanciu22

@AdrianStanciu22

2022-03-30 16:23:11,344 - INFO - PAI - Starting...
2022-03-30 16:23:11,344 - INFO - PAI.paradox.paradox - Disconnecting from the Alarm Panel
2022-03-30 16:23:11,345 - INFO - PAI.paradox.paradox - Clean Session
2022-03-30 16:23:11,346 - INFO - PAI.paradox.paradox - Connecting to interface
2022-03-30 16:23:11,346 - INFO - PAI.paradox.connections.serial_connection - Connecting to serial port /dev/ttyS1
2022-03-30 16:23:11,347 - INFO - PAI.paradox.connections.serial_connection - /dev/ttyS1 is not readable/writable. Trying to fix...
2022-03-30 16:23:11,348 - ERROR - PAI.paradox.connections.serial_connection - Failed to update file /dev/ttyS1 permissions
2022-03-30 16:23:11,350 - ERROR - PAI.paradox.paradox - Failed to connect to interface
2022-03-30 16:23:11,351 - ERROR - PAI - Unable to connect to alarm

Why I'm having this message? My conf is:

IP Connection Details

IP_CONNECTION_HOST = '192.168.1.59' # IP Module address when using direct I>
IP_CONNECTION_PORT = 10000 # IP Module port when using direct IP C>
IP_CONNECTION_PASSWORD = 'paradox' # IP Module password. "paradox" is fact>
PASSWORD = '1234'

There is no serial connection in my conf!

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

Connection type is wrong. Read wiki

AdrianStanciu22

@AdrianStanciu22

I used this conf, is ok. What is new now, is I use portainer...and I dont understand how it try to use serial connection.

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

@/all I have released version 3.0.0 today. Basically it is dev branch which stabilazed for many months. Finally I can get rid of old master branch.
The update is not backward compatible with previous version for HomeAssistant. Entity IDs will change which will produce new entities and devices. MQTT cleanup required before update, otherwise you will end up with two versions of the same sensors.
In HomeAssistant I did not force anybody to pick a new version right away. You can decide yourself when you want to migrate.
In addition I have added a possibility to filter what properties will be discoverable in home assistant. Should be less mess than before.

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

I used this conf, is ok. What is new now, is I use portainer...and I dont understand how it try to use serial connection.

https://github.com/ParadoxAlarmInterface/pai/wiki/Connection-methods#local-network-connection

Dace

@dacezviedre_twitter

Hello,

Dace

@dacezviedre_twitter

I have a problem with image upload on Paradox TM50
1) Had 485 images for years before. Wanted upload some new ones
2) Taked out SD card, upload 460 new images.
3) Now there on SD card is 485 old images and 460 new images. Total 945 images. All of them is 480x272 bmp like before
4) Put back SD Card, but display shows only 512 images, more than a half of them are new ones, and some old ones too.
Why it dont show all images?

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

Hello Dace, how it is related to us?
My assumption is that they have a hard limit of 512.

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

I used this conf, is ok. What is new now, is I use portainer...and I dont understand how it try to use serial connection.

How you used it before?
In poratiner you might need to mount your configuration directory to the container as well.

Dace

@dacezviedre_twitter

@yozik04 Hello, Jevgeni! Thank you for an answer. I didnt mean that my problem ir related to you somehow. Just thought that there are many smart people who can help me to understand why it happening. Even dont know which configuration i have, sorry, i am not a smart user, just wanted to update some photos by myself (without asking company who installed this device in my home). Will try to find out which conf i have.

bcameron21

@bcameron21

I tried a few months back to try get PAI working on my system, and I think I got blocked not being able to guess the PC password.
I'm trying again now, and I'm very keen to see this through to the end and get it up and running. But I really would appreciate some help and guidance.
My panel is an MG5050. I have it connected to an ESPHome running the serial to wifi stream server.
So far I can't seem to get past this error:
ERROR - PAI.paradox.paradox - Timeout while connecting to panel. Is an other connection active?

bcameron21

@bcameron21

I made some progress. Rechecked by pin connections and changed the baud rate to 9600. It now seems to be communicating with the panel. But I'm now stuck at the "Invalid PC Password" error. I've tried 0000, aaaa, 1234, 1111. 6-digit numbers give me an error that it was expecting 2 bytes, but I'm sending 3 so I guess its not a 6 digit number.

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

Baud rate does not matter for IP connection method. Wiki tells what PC password length should be

bcameron21

@bcameron21

What is the best/easiest way to get or set the PC Password? I don’t have Babyware.

sgmihai

@sgmihai

Hi. New to this alarm system world. I seem to have an old Paradox esprit 748+ (it was already in the building), with 12 motion detectors connected to it (it seems to work, lights go up on movement on the keyppad). What solutions do I have to integrate this in a home automation system ?

I see a 3 year old mention of this model in the chat history, being adviced to "let it go". Can I buy a new paradox board to connect to the motion detectors ? Does it have to be paradox or are there any more generic/universal such logic/power boards ?

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

@bcameron21 😅 best way is to download Babyware

@sgmihai we have only Paradox integration hete. Can not comment on other manufactures.

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voidwalker09

@voidwalker09:matrix.org

[m]

@yozik04: Please comment so that you provide an efficientsolution to my problem. Paradox Esprit 748+ and 12 motion sensors connected to it. How to integrate into home automation ?

It was a more general question anyway, if the wired motion detection devices have a generic protocol or are they unique to each manufacturer/can differ between alarm systems etc

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

Paradox has some sensors that can be wired up via a digital bus, same way as control panel. But usually it is simple voltage sensing. So any regular motion sensor can work with any regular panel. Regardless of manufacturer. I am not installer

I have probably 2-3 paradox motion sensors, all the rest are from different company

voidwalker09

@voidwalker09:matrix.org

[m]

i see, so there's a good likelyhood I just have to replace the board with a newer model that already has wifi/ethernet or is compatible with pai (if a paradox one), and has 12+ zones to fit all my existing sensors

ac-dc adapter to power them remains in place.. keyboard/alarm i don't really care about (alarm speaker can probably be used on any board)

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

There are a plenty of smart ones already on the market

Maybe worth trying.

Reino Zuppur

@rzuppur

Hi,

I did a clean install and upgraded PAI to latest. The panel is discovered using MQTT but some entities are missing from Home Assistant - sensors like binary_sensor.paradox_201893f9_partition_korter_entry_delay and other similar sensors (arming, in entry delay, etc). Only sensors I have are the zones and zone tampers + PAI status and panel voltages.

I'm not sure what version I was using previously, but it had to be something less than a year old. Tried downgrading to 2.7 and 2.5, panel is discovered and works but the entities are still missing. I have not changed the configuration. Is there something else I can do to get these sensors back?

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

There was backward compatibility break in 3.x. I recommend reconfiguring to that

If you need entry delays you need to add them to the list

Read release notes on github

https://github.com/ParadoxAlarmInterface/pai/releases

Reino Zuppur

@rzuppur

Sorry, I missed that somehow, thanks! Tried to figure out what had changed from commit history instead :)

Reino Zuppur

@rzuppur

So just in case someone else also needs this and has trouble finding the right config this is what worked for me:

HOMEASSISTANT_PUBLISH_PARTITION_PROPERTIES = [
    'target_state',
    'current_state',
    'entry_delay',
    'exit_delay',
    'arm_stay',
    'arm_away'
]

Statuses are listed here https://github.com/ParadoxAlarmInterface/pai/wiki/MQTT-Interface

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

Thanks for posting it. You can add that info to the wiki.

Tornike Beradze

@Beratod_gitlab

Hello, I am struggling with connecting to my evo192. I have Windows 10 with docker container. I am using evo 192 and esp32 for communication with bi-directional level shifter. I am getting "PAI.paradox.paradox - Timeout while connecting to panel. Is an other connection active?" I can connect to board with BabyWare 5.4.38. Evo192 version is v7.70. Tried password '0000', 'FFFF' no luck.

Tried default baud rate and 57600

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

Hi @Beratod_gitlab. In 7.50 Paradox has added serial port encryption. That might be the case.

Tornike Beradze

@Beratod_gitlab

@yozik04 is there any solution about that? Can I some how downgrade firmware for my Evo192?

@yozik04 I also have another question. Is there any possible way to connect to 150 pieces of evo192? I am going to build my own monitoring system. There will be around 150-200 devices on different locations. Need to control and monitor them from one server.

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

Paradox mentioned that it is not possible do downgrade

Tornike Beradze

@Beratod_gitlab

That is sad :(

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

Put ip150 module

PAI works theough it

Tornike Beradze

@Beratod_gitlab

I am unable to use it. Need GPRS connection to my boards.

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

GPRS also uses Serial port?

Christopher Moodaley

@christophermoodaley

Anyone know how long a code lock out last for i messed up

Jevgeni Kiski

@yozik04

around 15 minutes? Not sure

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