These are chat archives for prashcr/hackathon-discussion

17th
Jan 2016
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 03:37
Hey guys! Looking forward to our chat in 83 minutes :-D
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 03:38
:)
Kali
@TeaVapor
Jan 17 2016 03:40
So interesting, today is our first Daegu meet up,too :smile:
Prashanth Chandra
@prashcr
Jan 17 2016 03:41
:+1:
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 04:09
I'm here for the Hackathon chat. I'm assuming it's 2pm on GMT +8?
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 04:11
yep, at 2
:)
in 45 minitues
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 04:11
Heh, that's 1pm for me. Good thing I'm early.
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 04:16
kay
well we are going to talk about doing some challenges together like making a landing page, 404 page or something like that
have you done any challenges like that with your camp?
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 04:19
I have some ideas. I tried to organize a community project just within my camp (Taipei) a few months back. I ran into a few different issues so I can give you guys some info on what they were and how I tried to solve them. Biggest problem was differing student levels.
I wanted to make a simple message board with a REST API.
Newer students could help on the front-end design, and more advanced students could help on the backend.
The idea was to get familiar with github and the AGILE workflow.
Small teams could split off to handle different parts.
First problem I ran into was more advanced students trying to do everything.
People were adding libraries and functionality way before 80% of the students even knew what they were needed for. This cause a lot of students to drop out because I guess they felt they weren't able to keep up.
Then I guess some of the more advanced students dropped out because I guess they felt it was going too slowly.
Now we have about 3 of us working on it. It's making very slow progress.
I do think using github to manage everything was a solid idea. Almost all collaboration in the real world is going to be through Github or something like it. The sooner people learn version control concepts and get comfortable with them, the better for them.
Kali
@TeaVapor
Jan 17 2016 04:33
Hi @Beltayn , good pointers there. Did your FCC have enough people to make it possible to group them together by levels, working on different projects simultaneously? I am having my first meet up today and this is definitely something I would like to address first within our group.
Pair work..?
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 04:33
Actually we started out with too many.
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 04:34
So our camp has been giving the UI challenges before class, and we talk about/look at them during the meeting. Stephan's camp in Busan worked on the challenges in small groups
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 04:34
It was hard to fit everyone in. Unfortunately due to a lack of leaders and direction we lost people fast. You need to have solid team leaders who will mentor new students and keep them involved.
Kali
@TeaVapor
Jan 17 2016 04:35
2 people doing one thing at one table, different skill level people doing something else at another table. Aslo were they all following the FCC curriculum?
@Beltayn I see...I guess I will have to adapt and see how it goes.
Zach Valenta
@zachvalenta
Jan 17 2016 04:38
@prashcr I liked your idea
“yes, maybe a simple app for advanced and some bootstrap webdesign for intermediate, and basic html page for beginner….something like that”
This way:
1) everyone can self-sort into whatever level they feel comfortable with
2) everyone can build their own thing simultaneous with others
Kali
@TeaVapor
Jan 17 2016 04:39
^^^ that sounds like a good strategy!
Zach Valenta
@zachvalenta
Jan 17 2016 04:39
I think the first step is for collaboration like Q&A on Gitter. Everyone can get comfortable, learn about other members in the group.
@Beltayn Definitely agree that Github is the way to go, but think we could introduce Github and real collaboration at the second or third hackathon.
This is more like a first date for everyone :)
Lol need to break the ice!
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 04:42
:)
Prashanth Chandra
@prashcr
Jan 17 2016 04:42
Hey everyone :)
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 04:42
Hey Prashcr
Sonya Moisset
@SonyaMoisset
Jan 17 2016 04:42
Hi :)
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 04:45
i think Zach's got the right idea. Today is more like Q & A.
So Sonya came up with the idea of the UI challenge. Working on some UI challenges together....and later on doing a real hackathon like making a real project collaboratively. Maybe you can explain what we have done so far?
Sonya Moisset
@SonyaMoisset
Jan 17 2016 04:48

Ok, so far we've done 2 UI/JS challenges

This was the guideline for the 2nd edition

Free Code Camp Seoul

Weekly UI Challenges – Second Edition!

Hi Campers!

Over the course of the coming weeks, you’ll design several user interface elements for mobile and web. This project was built to provide a fun way to improve your skills as a developer and get feedback from others who are in the same boat.

How this will work:

  1. Every Monday we'll give you an element to design for the next FCC meeting
  2. Some prompts will be intentionally high-level, so it's up to you to interpret how to design/develop it (i.e. mobile vs web, full page vs one component, etc)
  3. Provide feedback to others who are doing the challenge during the FCC meeting
  4. Become a better developer over the course of a few weeks :)

For this second edition, you will choose between

  • A Sign-up form
  • A User profile
  • A Music or Audio Player

Lists of tools for this challenge

  • HTML/HTML5
  • CSS/CSS3
  • SASS/LESS/Jade/Stylus/CoffeeScript...
  • Bootstrap/Foundation/Skeleton/Material Design...
  • JavaScript/jQuery/jQuery UI...
  • Angular/React/Polymer...
  • And most importantly Google! =D

Be creative and keep on coding!

Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 04:53
So do we have a centralized system for organizing all of this stuff like teams, projects, challenge info etc?
Kali
@TeaVapor
Jan 17 2016 04:53
Please forgive my lack of input, as I'm super new to this! Allow me to observe, take notes and learn from the best :)
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 04:53
codepen
we can tag fcc global in the discription
Sonya Moisset
@SonyaMoisset
Jan 17 2016 04:54
the members will update their challenges on codepen and use a specific #
they will add their FCC camp and some details in the description box
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 04:59
Can I suggest at some point building an actual site to handle these challenges? We could use passport to let people login with their github accounts.
It might be a bit too advanced for now, but it would be a fun group project. I've always been interested in building actual apps as groups.
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:02
I think that is definitely the kind of projects we want to build up to. I saw your group message board project it looks like its coming along nicely
Christian Albert
@calbert1209
Jan 17 2016 05:03
Hello, everyone. I'm Albert, from FCC Tokyo. Thanks FCC Seoul for giving us a chance to work together.
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 05:03
@jupiterpenny It has stalled a bit. Partly because I've been busy with other courses and regular work. I'd like to get it going properly, but I want it to be a tool for learning so newer students can analyze it for how to implement a REST API and other essential skills.
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:03
So Sonya is working on creating this week's UI challenge. It will be ready Monday and the deadline is Sunday. Similar to last weeks.
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 05:04
So basically, I can post this in the Taiwan FCC facebook group and any of the people in there can jump in and join in on these challenges?
Sonya Moisset
@SonyaMoisset
Jan 17 2016 05:04
yes
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:05
The topics are broad so you can pretty much create anything with it. And you can implement the challenges however you want. Single, pair, group activities doesn't matter. And during your meetings if you like
Sonya Moisset
@SonyaMoisset
Jan 17 2016 05:05
they can also add these challenges in their own portfolio/website
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:07
Hi Christian from Tokyo. Nice to meet you
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:07
Hey guys
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:07
Hi, Stephen.
So any questions/Comments? What do you think?
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:08
I think the format is great. Busan experimented last week, and overall it was a positive new change
We only meet on the 2nd and 4th Sundays each month, but what we did was had a short presentation on Bootstrap, gave pairs the first UI challenge, and they spend the rest of the time working on it.
I think I will have announce the UI challenge ahead of time so that people have time to dig in and prepare.
Christian Albert
@calbert1209
Jan 17 2016 05:10
Is there an example of the challenges created so far?
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:10
Like most groups (I imagine), Busan has mostly beginners so we need a lot of extra prep time
@calbert1209 Yes, Sonya posts them on FCC Seoul
They're images, looks like a terminal window.
And if you scroll up in this chatroom, Sonya posted the second one.
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:13
the end results have been posted in codepen
we looked at our members during the meet up, so they weren't hashtaged
but in the future we will hashtag them so everyone can view

FCC global

Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:14
Just to make this easier, can you guys post your CodePen IDs here. I'll follow you now. Mine is StephenMayeux, which is the same as my GitHub
Prashanth Chandra
@prashcr
Jan 17 2016 05:15
Mine's prashcr
xhad
@xhad
Jan 17 2016 05:15
Hey Stephen, great work in Busan. codepen.io/xhad
Christian Albert
@calbert1209
Jan 17 2016 05:15
I'm calbert1209, same as my GitHub.
Sonya Moisset
@SonyaMoisset
Jan 17 2016 05:16
SonyaMoisset
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:16
Thanks for the love, @xhad . You guys are doing great too. Would love to go up one weekend before I go back home in September
nice pamadoro @calbert1209 `
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:19
@Beltayn nice quote page haha
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 05:19
Oh god...
None of my stuff is finished on there. I hadn't actually banked on anyone sane looking at it.
I kinda skipped front-end stuff and went straight to backend. Servers and databases are way more interesting for me. I have to go back and do the frontend stuff
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:20
The quotes are funny. My wife says some of the same stuff to me.
Same here. I like backend more than front end. But these UI challenges will help us!!
Prashanth Chandra
@prashcr
Jan 17 2016 05:21
@Beltayn Same here
Christian Albert
@calbert1209
Jan 17 2016 05:21
Thanks @StephenMayeux. I would like to add the same disclaimer as @Beltayn !
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 05:21
Yeah, as unbelievable as it is, every single thing on there was at some point uttered by my girlfriend.
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:21
so Monday we can send each of the UI challenge.
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:21
Yup
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 05:21
So we'll just keep checking back in this room then for updates?
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:22
And the hashtag is FCCGlobal on CodePen?
Sonya Moisset
@SonyaMoisset
Jan 17 2016 05:22
I will post the new one tomorrow morning
I will add the # in the guideline
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 05:22
Gah, where do I find the people I've followed on Codepen?
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:22
Thanks for organizing this @SonyaMoisset
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 05:22
Yeah thanks Sonya, really great of you to set this up. I know how much work organizing stuff like this is.
Sonya Moisset
@SonyaMoisset
Jan 17 2016 05:25
Thanks to all of you guys for making this a little bit more global
We think it's important to connect the camps on different kind of projects
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:26
This is exactly what Quincy and the FCC teams wants, and we're setting a very good example.
Kali
@TeaVapor
Jan 17 2016 05:26
Thank you for helping the rest of us stay connected and motivated!
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:26
and it will be fun to see the different creations from around asia!!!!
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:26
On a basejump marathon now (although they've done away with that terminology), so I gotta bounce. Looking forward to seeing the new UI challenge @SonyaMoisset !
Kali
@TeaVapor
Jan 17 2016 05:27
@StephenMayeux peace
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:28
See you in Daegu soon @TeaVapor
Bye bye for now guys
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:28
I think that really covers everything. So we will send the UI Challenge. Any other questions or anything?
Stephen Mayeux
@StephenMayeux
Jan 17 2016 05:29
@jupiterpenny that's all for now. Thank you!
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:29
Have a good Sunday then and we will talk soon :)
Prashanth Chandra
@prashcr
Jan 17 2016 05:29
Looking forward to the next challenge, cheers!
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:29
:+1:
Christian Albert
@calbert1209
Jan 17 2016 05:29
Thanks for setting this up. I will tell the others in Tokyo.
xhad
@xhad
Jan 17 2016 05:30
@prashcr Nice Chuck Norris Joke Zipline. :P
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:30
@calbert1209 awesome
Prashanth Chandra
@prashcr
Jan 17 2016 05:32
@xhad Thanks! I like your sense of color and the length check before tweeting is pretty nifty :)
Shannon Buys
@Beltayn
Jan 17 2016 05:33
Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself... but a Free Code Camp Asia convention would be pretty damn cool...
Amanda Krummel
@jupiterpenny
Jan 17 2016 05:34
:) let's make something happen in the future
Have a great Sunday guys!
Kali
@TeaVapor
Jan 17 2016 05:36
Do any of you guys have a personal blog?
@jupiterpenny thank you and enjoy your Sunday