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microraiden - docs and waiting for EIP 712" from https://www.reddit.com/r/raidennetwork/comments/81x9xl/git_weekly_update_7/
can someone make clear ,are we need eip712 or we need changes in client?
@another1001bit_twitter eip712 is a standard/protocol for client implementation. It'll allow the client to sign the data he's seeing, instead of an opaque hash. The later doesn't actually need any changes for the client, and was a preliminary implementation in µRaiden. But we can't ask for "faith" from the user when signing a micropayment, that's why EIP712 is needed (also why you see the amount of ETH you are asked to transfer in Metamask, instead of a dialog asking to sign some big hex string)
it's not strictly required for µraiden (it's already released, and on Mainnet), but essential for a trustless µpayment system
@another1001bit_twitter As Andre said it's required for a secure and trustless version of microraiden. You can still use microraiden today -- just the deployed version does not have the usability guarantees we want until EIP712 is cleared and all the security issues are addressed.
Thanks a lot /\
Most important would be to get feedback by people in order to clear out the last few issues that have surfaced in the EIP.
i run a token mining pool and i'm curious to use microraiden for token payouts instead of sending them on chain, we've been starting to develop our own protocol, but if this one is complete and more secure...
But Ether can very easily be ERC20-tokenized.
would it be possible to store microraiden signatures on chain in a public testnet or other private network? This would allow a fully featured microraiden client to only know how to do IO with ethereum networks. Related, in the python server, how is the state stored? Are Channel objects stored on disk? in memory? https://github.com/raiden-network/microraiden/blob/master/microraiden/client/channel.py
(ty for making this in python and not node)
ah cool thanks - do you think it would be feasible to modify this file to store microraiden sigs on a sidechain? https://github.com/raiden-network/microraiden/blob/master/microraiden/channel_manager/state.py does that make sense? can these signatures be decentralized/public?
@mseiler1_twitter , can you clarify what you mean by
Also, the main component is the microraiden proxy-server, which receives the off-chain payment = the signed balance proof. So, the microraiden client can be implemented as you would like - if you want a custom way of providing the input (signed balance proof). We do have 2 microraiden client implementations (python, typescript) that can serve as example.
microraiden signatures and store microraiden signatures on chain?Also, the main component is the microraiden proxy-server, which receives the off-chain payment = the signed balance proof. So, the microraiden client can be implemented as you would like - if you want a custom way of providing the input (signed balance proof). We do have 2 microraiden client implementations (python, typescript) that can serve as example.
let me try to write up the back ground of why this is interesting
there's a second motivation for creating a side chain
0xbitcoin is a mineable erc20 token and i'm running a pool that's a node+redis app that's accumulating shares similar to bitcoin and sending transactions to the ethereum main net when a full block is found. We were thinking about implementing a pool purely as a solidity contract on an ethereum testnet or private net and be able to have an event listener that signs an event to the main net when a full block is found. This should make maintaining the pool a lot easier than the node+redis app. The thought then is that payouts could happen through the raiden network or similar, where signatures/signed balance proofs could also be stored and hosted on that side ethereum testnet/privatenet and the miners could commit their signatures to the main ethereum network as often as they wanted to cash out. it's a bit in the early planning stages
I'm David. We are running on the hackathon in Seoul now.
I got error above. Anyone can help me?
I got error above. Anyone can help me?
I'm using private one. how can I change to ropsten?
@loredanacirstea Can I read example or API docs for JS?
If you are using a private chain, you need to deploy the smart contracts there first. For ropsten, please see http://microraiden.readthedocs.io/en/docs-develop/tutorials/blockchain.html
@davidkang200 for JS example see the js webui example from
microraiden/webui/js/main.js and https://github.com/raiden-network/microraiden/tree/master/microraiden/webui/microraiden/docs
@davidkang200 It is possible you had something else in mind, so please clarify on how you imagined your system.
