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    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    I am thinking the same. We at Lancaster might start with a Data Community or Data Forum and recruit Champions (if successful) as a next step.
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    Hi all, at Cambridge we're in the process of advertising for our champions. We already have an OpenCon community and Research Data Project Group so hoping this will attract people who are ready to take the next step. As ever doing a promotional campaign is encouraging a few others to get in touch with us.
    Jenny O'Neill
    @JennyOLibrarian_twitter
    At UCD we're scoping requirements for RDM services and held a focus group at the end of August. I would like to retain the interest of the people who attended so more of an informal network for me to tap into rather than anything official, but I'll be following the conversation with interest for when our services are fully established.
    Frances Madden
    @maddenfc_twitter
    At Royal Holloway, we have met with a focus group a couple of times to discuss needs for RDM. We are keen to keep them engaged but I'm reluctant to use the word champion at this stage. I think as we roll out new systems, I will attempt to identify early adopters to gauge their interest in some sort of community initiative.
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    @JennyOLibrarian_twitter I'm interested in your "informal" approach. Any ideas yet? We will hold an RDM focus group in October. I was surprised by how much interest we had in the focus group and would like to keep the momentum going.
    Jez Cope
    @jezcope
    @RosieHLib_twitter What does your OpenCon community involve?
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    @jezcope it's a researcher-led group which organises an OpenCon (http://www.opencon2016.org/) satellite event once a year and meets regularly to do this. Several members of the Office of Scholarly Communication are part of the group and the researchers are good informal advocates for all things Open Data. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/openconcam
    Jez Cope
    @jezcope
    @RosieHLib_twitter Ooh, that's interesting - thanks! What sort of attendance do you get for the event?
    Federica Fina
    @FinaFederica_twitter
    Hi all, at St Andrews we are thinking of creating a sort of ‘recommendations making group’ with representatives from each school (ideally). The idea would be for this group to meet regularly to discuss issues/opportunities of RDM and ultimately put forward recommendations to the Open Research Steering Group. This is still a very abstract concept at the moment.
    Jenny O'Neill
    @JennyOLibrarian_twitter
    @HardySchwamm_twitter I'm writing up a report on the focus group that I intend to send to participants and a number of others who couldn't make it but asked to be kept in the loop. There will also be some 'managing expectations'. Other than that I don't really have a plan so am hoping some suggestions here will give me ideas. We had huge interest too, I was really surprised. Any pretty much everyone showed up too. We had 25 people in the end.
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    @JennyOLibrarian_twitter Good to hear you've had so much interest! Our 15 places have been taken quickly, too, and from a range of disciplines as well.
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    @jezcope I wasn't here but colleagues say 60-70 people, so pretty good. We're hoping to advertise this years event soon so can send you a link when we do if you're interested
    Neil Dickson
    @NADickson_twitter
    Hi from Monash University, we see the advantages of (local) data champions working at faculty level or large school advocating data management, promoting successes and acting as a catalyst for ideas and change. These people would come together to discuss things in common - in effect a recommendations group.
    We also believe there is the need to have someone who understands the bigger picture and can help influence changes in approach backed up by the recommendations, advocate attitudes and solutions that can be sustained at the institution top level and commands the respect of their research peers as well as library, IT, Deans and senior staff. Having a respected voice at the top table we believe is going to be very important in the long term.
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    @NADickson_twitter Are you trying to identify a senior 'champion' with a formal role or is this more someone who supports your aims and will advocate for you?
    Neil Dickson
    @NADickson_twitter
    Hi don't think we can go for a formal role rather an informal role who gets the big picture is an enthusiastic supporter and respected advocate. The messages we think should ideally come from a researcher
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    Slightly off-topic, but does anybody use a booking system for 1-1 meetings?
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    @HardySchwamm_twitter I used to use youcanbookme at a previous place of work and have just discovered Doodle's integration with Google Calendar which is quite useful
    Is anyone going to the RDMF in Edinburgh in November? I was wondering if this would be a good opportunity to catch up and discuss how everyone's plans are progressing. Our call for champions is progressing but we've received more than 30 applications so far
    Jez Cope
    @jezcope
    @RosieHLib_twitter I'll be there next month
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    @RosieHLib_twitter Thanks for the booking tips. Will investigate! I should also be at RDMF. Happy to contribute to Champions discussion.
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    Fantastic, I'll propose something then.
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    Great. By the time of RDMF we will have had our Steering Group meeting that will give us feedback on our "RDM Community" idea. That is not quite the same as Champions but a looser forum to exchange RDM ideas and practices. Champions might follow if the Community idea takes off. I guess this is similar to how you approached it, @RosieHLib_twitter ?
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    @HardySchwamm_twitter Yes, broadly speaking. We have never had a formal 'Community' but through OpenConCambridge and our Project Group we are reasonably confident that the capacity and appetite exists to support something slightly more structured. I suppose it is also in response to a problem we have, which may be Cambridge-specific, that everything is very decentralised so we need a way to bring people together.
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    @RosieHLib_twitter We are obviously much smaller at Lancaster but fundamentally we have the same issues (i.e. there is probably not much exchange beyond projects or departments). If we get a positive response from our Steering Group we will test the water with "Community" events. We are happy to learn more from your experience!
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    @HardySchwamm_twitter Well I'm glad to hear we're not alone having that problem! I hope your Steering Group give you a positive response.
    Marta Teperek
    @martateperek_twitter
    @HardySchwamm_twitter we have indeed started with making a call for people who would want to join RDM Project Group - I guess this is something more similar to the 'Community' you're trying to set up. The Project Group in our case discusses and addresses gaps in the current RDM provision in Cambridge. We had over 40 applicants, and selected 20, ensuring representation from various stakeholders across the University (PIs, postdocs, students, librarians, IT people, ethics person etc.). This group is split into 4 sub-working group (20 people can't work productively altogether): Outreach and Support, Preservation, Standards and System Integration, Personal/Sensitive Data and Policy. The RDM Project Group meets every 2 months and the sub-working groups report on their activities and discuss future actions (with comments from everyone). This that sub-working groups can effectively work together between meetings, but that the activities of sub-working groups are joined up. The Outreach and Support sub-working Group (Rosie is leading that Group) leads on the Data Champions project as one of their babies.
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    @martateperek_twitter That's really great progress! I am amazed that you have so much interest in topics such as Preservation which is really encouraging. We are having our DAF Focus group tomorrow and I hope that we can start a spin-off from that group that will support us in our RDM Community efforts.
    Marta Teperek
    @martateperek_twitter
    Fingers crossed! :)
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    Blog post from Alice Motes (Surrey) about the potential role of Champions: https://researchdata.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2016/09/27/research-data-magic-anyone/
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    Thanks for sharing @HardySchwamm_twitter, that's a really interesting post. I agree with Alice about the need to change the structural issues, hopefully this can act as a stop-gap
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    @RosieHLib_twitter Congratulation to your 44 Champions!
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    Updates: @RosieHLib_twitter and I will facilitate a Breakout Group at RDMF16 in Edinburgh next week "Creating a community: going beyond compliance" which will also discuss the RDM Champions idea. We'll be blogging about the session.
    And at Lancaster we'll start a new event series called Lancaster Data Conversations. http://www.lancaster.ac.uk/library/rdm/data-conversations/ As mentioned earlier this might be a step towards RDM Champions at a later stage.
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    In case you haven't seen it elsewhere: Jisc DAF report which has some relevance to our RDM Community topic: https://researchdata.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2016/11/28/finding-researchers-really-really-want-research-data-shared-service/
    aNurnberger
    @aNurnberger
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    I've been talking about the progress we've made with the Data Champions at IDCC17 today https://doi.org/10.1101/104661 and underlying data https://doi.org/10.17863/CAM.7417
    @aNurnberger thanks for the checklist, will have a go at assessing our project against this
    Jez Cope
    @jezcope
    @RosieHLib_twitter thanks, I found your talk really inspiring — definitely shaping my comms plans for the coming year!
    Jez Cope
    @jezcope
    @aNurnberger thanks, that looks really useful!
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    Also (possibly) news: @RosieHLib_twitter , Anna Clements (St Andrews) and I talked to Jisc about potential support for RDM user engagement. Hopefully more to come, maybe at RDN at York?
    Aurelia Moser
    @auremoser
    Hey all! Does anyone know when this BoF at RDA is happening? I'd love to attend.
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    @martateperek_twitter can provide more details.
    Aurelia Moser
    @auremoser
    Thank you!
    Jenny O'Neill
    @JennyOLibrarian_twitter
    @HardySchwamm_twitter In UCD we loved the idea of the Data Conversations that we're going to try it out during Open Access Week in combination with Open Data training for researchers. I'm not sure the budget will stretch to pizza though, which is such a pity :-(
    Hardy Schwamm
    @HardySchwamm_twitter
    @JennyOLibrarian_twitter Funnily, pizza from our campus pizzeria is cheaper than coffee and cake from our central catering. But more seriously, the feedback we got from our first event was that researchers enjoyed the informal and friendly environment, and I guess some nice food and drink is part of that. Good luck with your event and please report back on how it went.
    Rosie Higman
    @RosieHLib_twitter
    @HardySchwamm_twitter @JennyOLibrarian_twitter funnily enough some of our data champions raised wanting pizza at our last meeting.
    @auremoser I'm not going to be at RDA but @martateperek_twitter and I are in the process of planning the session, I can send you some more details if you like?
    Aurelia Moser
    @auremoser
    Yes please @RosieHLib_twitter, aurelia[at]mozillafoundation[dot]org ! Thanks!