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    Fabrice Cheng
    @fabdarice
    Hi anyone here ?
    Nathan Waters
    @NathanBWaters
    Hello Fabrice!
    Fabrice Cheng
    @fabdarice
    Hello
    I was wondering if anyone could help me with an error I'm having
    with redux-orm
    @NathanBWaters
    Fabrice Cheng
    @fabdarice
    Are you here @NathanBWaters ?
    Nathan Waters
    @NathanBWaters
    Hi Frabrice! I'm here. Happy to answer your question but I would suggest posting your error at https://github.com/tommikaikkonen/redux-orm/issues with the related code and the stack trace.
    nguyen ngoc son
    @sonnn
    anyone here?
    johnunclesam
    @johnunclesam
    Hi at all! Can I ask if this amazing package is going to be mantained? Is still in developing stage, right?
    Herbert Pimentel
    @herbertpimentel
    this project looks amazing... I just want to understand from your point of view why this not that standard way of do things ?
    haveyaseen
    @haveyaseen

    Hi @herbertpimentel, hard to give a satisfying answer to your question. For libraries to become de-facto standards, you need them to be both popular and effective to some degree.

    We are probably mainly lacking in popularity rather than effectiveness, but there are other good reasons not to use Redux-ORM. For one it's the increase in bundle size (may now be less thanks to tree shaking). And other times, people may not always need our features like model-based schemas, automatically invalidated selectors based on changing model data etc.

    Herbert Pimentel
    @herbertpimentel
    Thanks for your answer. I AM New to redux and use It make total Sense to me. But I was little worried why we find little people talking about use It. But thanks I Will keep It in mind
    haveyaseen
    @haveyaseen
    You're welcome 😁
    mytee306
    @mytee306
    @haveyaseen Good answer but 29kb minified and gzipped which takes around 0.58 seconds to be downloaded over an emerging 3G network. People are pulling in libraries twice that with little to no hesitation. I'm not pointing any fingers... Moment... Plus there's tree-shaking as you mentioned.
    Secondly, regarding 'people may not always need our features'. We all agree that people are going to reach for redux mainly because they have to deal with a highly stateful client-side application. By saying stateful I mean having collections and nested data in your state tree. This seems like a perfect scenario for normalizing the state tree... And which package is perfect for working with normalized that in redux?
    So either people implemented something like redux-orm by themselves, they don't know that redux-orm even exists or they have picked up redux because it sounds cool and they don't know what they are doing. There is probably a small percentage of developers which don't fall under this umbrella.
    tomasz-zablocki
    @tomasz-zablocki
    Hi, just wanted to say I love this library and I appreciate all the effort that went into creating it.
    Alex Rodriguez
    @aroduribe
    Is anyone here?
    Edoardo Gallo
    @EdoardoGallo_twitter
    Hey guys! Is anyone around?