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    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    So that means there's a chance I can replicate the problem using your profile
    Joachim K. Rennstich
    @jrennstich
    Awesome
    I guess I sent the wrong files re the profile
    I sent the Zotero folder
    not the Profile folder
    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    Ah, right, I probably wasn't clear. I'll need both actually
    but: ~115s cold-cache, ~22s hot-cache, both for 24k items.
    Joachim K. Rennstich
    @jrennstich
    wow. if that would only work for my database
    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    I forgot to ask for both because my Zotero is set up to have the database and attachments inside the profile.

    wow. if that would only work for my database

    chances of that just went up.

    Joachim K. Rennstich
    @jrennstich
    send the profile folder via GoogleDocs
    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    A last-ditch option is to nuke the profile (not the ~/Zotero folder!) and set up a fresh profile.

    send the profile folder via GoogleDocs

    It's not in yet but it'll get there.

    ah there we go
    Alright, I need to be off. We're going to a theme park, it'll be a long day.
    Joachim K. Rennstich
    @jrennstich

    A last-ditch option is to nuke the profile (not the ~/Zotero folder!) and set up a fresh profile.

    Nope. That would be a disaster.

    Alright, I need to be off. We're going to a theme park, it'll be a long day.

    Yay! He's gonna love it.

    Thanks again!
    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    Both him and my daughter. Between the two of them, she's the roller coaster junkie :)
    Nuking the profile is fairly safe BTW. you'll lose your settings, but that's really it.
    But last-ditch.
    More tomorrow.
    Taygun Bulmus
    @bulmust_gitlab
    Hey, I am new on better bibtex. I want to ask two questions. 1) Can we change forced bibtexkey to user defined one? 2) Do you any plan fetch bibtex key from ads (astrophysics data system)
    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    I don't understand what those points mean. Forced in what way? Based on what data would the key be fetched from ADS? And how?
    Taygun Bulmus
    @bulmust_gitlab
    I can not change citekey. It only pulls the citations keys from inspireHep.
    Forced means, BBT can generate only styles where I decide in the options but I can not manually change individual citekeys.
    I am asking it because If the article in inspire does not have any arxiv ID or DOI, BBT does not pull its bibtex key.
    Taygun Bulmus
    @bulmust_gitlab
    My second question is about fetching citekey from ADS
    For example adding a new command "Pin BIBTEX key from ADS".
    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere

    I can not change citekey. It only pulls the citations keys from inspireHep.

    You can change the citekey. You can either generate one from a pattern, or just edit the line in the extra field. Whatever sits there is the citekey, BBT doesn't care how it got there.

    For example adding a new command "Pin BIBTEX key from ADS".

    so based on what data should I get the citekey from ADS? And do they have an API to do this with?

    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    I'd prefer it if you could open two separate issues for these on github, it's easier to keep track of what discussion belongs with what.
    Taygun Bulmus
    @bulmust_gitlab

    I can not change citekey. It only pulls the citations keys from inspireHep.

    You can change the citekey. You can either generate one from a pattern, or just edit the line in the extra field. Whatever sits there is the citekey, BBT doesn't care how it got there.

    Okay thank you very much, I did it

    I'd prefer it if you could open two separate issues for these on github, it's easier to keep track of what discussion belongs with what.

    I will do that. Thank you for your help

    Daniel Bankmann
    @dbankmann
    Is there an option to export with Title Case? My exported bibfiles recently changed and I noted that many items are exported with Title Case even though the original data is not.
    Daniel Bankmann
    @dbankmann
    Just checked. Doesn't happen with the biblatex exporter shipped with zotero. And I cannot reproduce on a second machine. Using the latest version of zotero and better-bibtex
    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    The behavior you see is by design and as it should be, but you can disable it. The Zotero-own biblatex exporter does not do this but that technically means it is not producing correct bib(la)tex. Bib(la)tex styles that require title-casing (such as Chicago) will assume the title is already title-cased and thus produce out-of-spec Chicago citations.
    Daniel Bankmann
    @dbankmann
    hmm, some styles like IEEE do not have that behavior though. I just wondered, why that behavior changed and didn't happen to find the advanced -export tab (dark gtk theme really doesn't play well with zoteros preferences tab). Thanks!
    Emiliano Heyns
    @retorquere
    It may seem like styles like IEEE do not have that behavior, but they still expect title case. They'll try to sentence-case the titles, which, if they're already in sentence-case, probably does no harm. But in bib(la)tex, English titles ought to be in Title Case. It's unfortunate, though understandable, that so many bibtex-generating tools ignore this -- it is hard to do it right.
    Daniel Bankmann
    @dbankmann
    Still don't really get it. Why is biblatex expecting title case? I also couldn't find a reference to that in the biblatex manual.
    If you can convince njbart, I'll absolutely follow his recommendation.
    Ioan Muntean
    @muntean68
    Dear Emiliano, I am trying to use better Bibtex for conversion purposes from Word to Latex through pandoc. When I try to use the CSL style I get this error: "CSL STYLE ERROR: reference with no printed form"
    Alejandro Weinstein
    @aweinstein
    Hi! I'm trying to use BBT with a bib file generated previously from a collection without BBT (plain Zotero). How can I keep the citation keys from the old file? Or is there a way to easily change the citation keys to the new ones? (I'm sure I read something about this in the documentation, but I can't find it now).
    Alejandro Weinstein
    @aweinstein
    Ok, I found that I should use [zotero] , or [zotero:clean] to use the original format. However, I'm not seeing the old citation keys. Any idea?
    Alejandro Weinstein
    @aweinstein
    So it seems BBT is ignoring the Citation Key Format. Just for testing, I set it to [year][auth:lower][shorttitle3_3]. But I get citation keys like rousseletDatasetTestretestReliability2018
    Alejandro Weinstein
    @aweinstein
    So it seems the citation keys are not being updated after changing the preferences
    stefanopagliari
    @stefanopagliari

    I have a question about the JS script to customize the export from Zotero (sorry if this is a dumb question, but I don't know how to programme in JS). I have run the example that I found on the webpage (https://retorque.re/zotero-better-bibtex/exporting/scripting/) :
    if (Translator.BetterTeX) {
    reference.add({ name: 'keywords', value: item.tags, sep: ', ' });
    }

    In the bib file that is exported by zotero however I get this: keywords = {[object Object], [object Object], [object Object], [object Object]}
    What am I doing wrong here?

    stefanopagliari
    @stefanopagliari
    I also wonder how would I go about exporting the date when the reference was added and modified to Zotero. Thanks