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    xhero
    @xhero
    no
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    hrm
    xhero
    @xhero
    well, not really
    there are some relations that update marc from the fields
    for example in the linked fields with $0
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    Right, but the storage is essentially MARC
    for sources at least
    xhero
    @xhero
    yes
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    That's unfortunate
    xhero
    @xhero
    well it is the design of muscat to store data as marc
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    Yeah, it just seems like that's also a limitation that restricts the ability to expand it further
    BTW, I'm not trying to be critical... just trying to figure out a way to make it do the things we need it to! :)
    It would be unfortunate to launch a new DIAMM that's only capable of exposing a subset of the information we currently have
    It would be nice if the MARC was just another serialization format...
    xhero
    @xhero
    well I do understand :)
    it is just that on how Muscat is designed now it is not a straightforward thing to implement
    not that it cannot be done
    Laurent Pugin
    @lpugin
    For linebreaks I would suggest to split them into repeated field. I would expect them to be wanted in note fields. Instead of a line-break, you can create another note field. Would this work?
    xhero
    @xhero
    we could also render this for MARC. We had it for psmd
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    PSMD?
    Laurent Pugin
    @lpugin
    You mean <p>? Or \n?
    xhero
    @xhero
    Printed Sacred Music Database ;)
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    Yeah, I was thinking of doing it in a related field, but I couldn't find any best practices
    xhero
    @xhero
    I think we converted \n to <p> or <br>
    Laurent Pugin
    @lpugin
    @xhero all this was a bad idea
    You can just repeat the field
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    oops... repeated field
    not related
    Laurent Pugin
    @lpugin
    ok
    xhero
    @xhero
    repeating is good for me, much better than having unsave strings in views
    Laurent Pugin
    @lpugin
    I think it would be a good practice
    xhero
    @xhero
    (BTW unrelated: muscat seems to work well in debian 8.2 with rails 2.1)
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    We do have some tricky data stored in the description, usually from bad copy/paste jobs
    like bullet points
    xhero
    @xhero
    in 2.0 we had all the digital objects stuff which was quite over the top
    but you could basically relate any data (text, images, etc) arbitrarily to a source
    if this stuff does not realle belong to marc could we have something similar?
    *really
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    Well, the best thing would be to make MARC an input/output format, and store the stuff internally as something else
    that way we could support things like METS, DC, JSON-API
    since it could all be derived from the internal fields
    Rails 2.1?
    or Ruby 2.1?
    xhero
    @xhero
    sorry ruby!
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    :)
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    are we still meeting today?
    xhero
    @xhero
    Hope so! I have no news of Laurent!
    Andrew Hankinson
    @ahankinson
    On Google Hangouts?
    xhero
    @xhero
    yes
    did you receive my invitation?