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    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    we should at least update the links
    but that brought to my mind the "discord vs zulip" question again :)
    (tbh zulip feels pretty nice too, but I still think the polish level of discord will likely be hard to compete with)
    Felix S Klock II
    @pnkfelix
    I am currently preferring zulip
    but I can understand appreciating polish...
    (clearly we should dedicate the gitter channel solely to discussing the virtues of Zulip vs Discord!)
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    it feels disloyal to discuss on either of the other places :)
    Zulip's UI feels "lighter", although also less professional
    but Discord's UI feels much more "obvious"
    also, Zulip's Android app is ungreat.
    i've not tried Discord's but I think wycats likes it
    (I don't generally want to use an Android app anyway, but I know some people do)
    Douglas Campos
    @qmx
    Discord's app is pretty decent
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    @qmx do you have an opinion? :)
    the other nice thing about Discord is the way we can 'reflect' our rust org structure on the left-hand side
    that seems very cool
    maybe zulip offers a similar ability
    Douglas Campos
    @qmx
    I like zulip, but it fails on the inclusivity, since it's not obvious to a newcomer on how things work
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    yeah that is a big concern of mine
    seems like everybody needs to be taught how to use it initially
    Douglas Campos
    @qmx
    discord comes out better on all other aspects
    and the features we miss are minimal in perspective (like direct linking to messages)
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    I don't consider that minimal at all
    however, I think they are willing to add it :)
    Douglas Campos
    @qmx
    yeah
    the fact that discord is closed source annoys me a little
    but just a little
    :)
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    on the plus side, it's very scriptable
    I mean I feel like -- we use GITHUB for goodness sakes :)
    Douglas Campos
    @qmx
    exactly
    :tinfoil_hat:
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    @qmx heh I am amused that I saw the :tinfoil_hat: message but not the one before (at least untiI I scrolled up and clicked the Unread indicator)
    Douglas Campos
    @qmx
    yea, that's gitter default
    I send messages and hit ctrl-r
    Felix S Klock II
    @pnkfelix
    god gitter is so broken
    @qmx or are you saying this is somehow a feature ? ("gitter default")
    Douglas Campos
    @qmx
    no, just that things are broken for so long that I'm used to it
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    they've made some progress on the issue but..yeah..
    @pnkfelix I can delete this room (that's an option in the menu)
    we should update all links and things though
    and I don't know what happens to the historical record, though that may not be such a big deal
    Felix S Klock II
    @pnkfelix
    What will that do? will it destroy the logs for everyone on it, so they won't necessarily realize where we migrated to?
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    @pnkfelix I don't know :)
    Felix S Klock II
    @pnkfelix
    Oh you just answered that (or said you didn't know, rather)
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis
    it seems like just ending with a big bold message might suffice
    Felix S Klock II
    @pnkfelix
    but of course gitter is broken.
    Douglas Campos
    @qmx
    yea, and we can lurk around and direct people to the new thing
    Felix S Klock II
    @pnkfelix
    Is it actually ironic that gitter is disrupting our attempt to discuss its replacement and destruction?
    Niko Matsakis
    @nikomatsakis

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    We are currently talking over on Zulip. This is an experiment, we may move again. =)