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    Aaron Turon
    @aturon
    i think the key thing on the front page is to, as quickly as possible, get across a very succinct overall answer to the question “why should I use Rust?"
    this probably won’t be tied to any particular language features
    but rather about the sort of overall characteristics that make Rust valuable in specific ways
    does that make sense?
    oh also, @EmilyTackett, being in the “just learning Rust” camp is perfect for this working group!
    Florian Gilcher
    @skade
    by the way, relevant here: rust-community/team#186
    Aaron Turon
    @aturon
    Indeed!
    Andrew Brinker
    @AndrewBrinker
    I've added the Racket website to the list of websites for inspiration, as I think it's a really compelling example of a programming language site that doesn't open with code, but with reasons for being interested.
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    hi there o/
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    i also would like to contribute to the side redesign. My interest in design came through typography and type design, so i think i could be helpfull in areas related to that (logotypes, logos, icons, general typgraphy…)
    Aaron Turon
    @aturon
    @MadMalik_twitter hi, welcome!
    so i should mention, this WG is primarily focused on content for the revamp --
    there’s a separate group, part of the Increasing Rust Reach program, working on the visual design
    However, we will of course bridge the two over time
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    ah, ok
    Aaron Turon
    @aturon
    right now, there’s some very early-stage work on styling and visual design
    the group doing that is keeping small for right now, as they get things going, but once there’s some concrete stuff coming out, i’ll take it here for feedback
    @MadMalik_twitter would you be open to me running some designs past you once we get to that point?
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    @aturon sure! i‘d be happy to
    Aaron Turon
    @aturon
    awesome! Meanwhile, if you want to dig around with any of the content-related stuff, we can also use more help there :)
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    i‘ll do that ^^
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    some thoughts about the content sketch:
    1. i feel that a link to the CoC deserves a place on the front page somewhere. the „friendly“ breakout box could be a good place.
    2. i find the „coming from“ subsection and the subdivision in languages not ideal. i‘ve commented in the document, but to expand a little bit:
    i interpret the intend as: write guides/sales pitches tailored to specific groups and their mind sets
    but since most languages are multi paradigm and all purpose, the mind set of programmers in one language is not consistent and the grouping of languages is kinda arbitrary.
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    imo writing a sales pitch for people that are coming from OOP is a clearer objective than for java/scala programmers
    and for example, the sales pitch for „rust is good for number crunching“ is different from „rust is a good language for web servers“, but both could be directed at pythonistas
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    i have the feeling this section is hard to get right
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    what do we want to achieve? get people interested in rust, of course. but how and why is the segmentation useful? my hunch is: create a „wow, thats cool“ moment that gives someone the incentive to really try rust out
    and to identify whats a „wow, thats cool“ moment for whom is hard and maybe it would be better to identify these moments and work back to the target group
    Aaron Turon
    @aturon
    @MadMalik_twitter wonderful feedback, thank you!
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    no probs :)
    Chris Krycho
    @chriskrycho
    One quick note: we should make it clear that the playground on the landing page is editable. Somehow, despite having been doing things this way for a couple years, I didn’t know that! :grimacing:
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    @chriskrycho :D same
    Marais Rossouw
    @maraisr
    Hi @/all - how can I help you guys out?
    Aaron Turon
    @aturon
    hi @maraisr! i’m in a meeting right now, but the best place to start is to follow the links in Background and leave comments
    Marais Rossouw
    @maraisr
    awesome!! Thanks @aturon :heart:
    Aaron Turon
    @aturon
    you bet! hoping to take some next steps soon
    Marais Rossouw
    @maraisr
    very excited man! I'm a boss of a frontend dev, and passionate to help where i can!! So use me!
    Aaron Turon
    @aturon
    aye aye!
    Dumindu Madunuwan
    @dumindu

    Hi guys,
    Would like to add a sketch I prepared about a year ago in a previous discussion on Github for discussion

    Home Page

    1. Top

      • Rust Logo and links for menu items (doc, forum, download, contribute/help, hamburger icon for other menu items)
    2. Next

    3. Examples

      • Feature list, on click right side code/video getting changed.
    4. Crates and areas uses Rust

      • short intro to crates , side crate downloads count & crate count
      • Links with/without images for pages like xi editor, hyper, nickel, Piston, arewewebyet and etc.
    5. Users/ Friends of Rust

    6. bottom

      • External links for fb, youtube, twitter, github, stackoverflow, blog and etc.

    Thanks

    Dumindu Madunuwan
    @dumindu
    Also would like to suggest to add a wiki page like Golang wiki,
    Haskell wiki for Rust core site, especially with the links for Learning resources . It will be helpful for newcomers to find good lerning resources for the core site. See, how many times new comers asked about good learning materials on Reddit
    Lee Baillie
    @lbaillie
    Hi @dumindu! I am one of the people working on the site redesign. I believe @aturon gave us your sketch, which gave us some great ideas to work with. Thank you for that! Though I believe this chat is more about the content/writing than visual design.
    (Also not to be nit-picky but neither of us are guys)
    Dumindu Madunuwan
    @dumindu
    Glad it helped somehow :clap:
    Dumindu Madunuwan
    @dumindu
    From where we can find the list of code samples which will be shown on home page?
    Florian Gilcher
    @skade
    has it been considered to add a page highlighting our video catalogue to the new page? (youtube.com/c/rustvideos
    madmalik
    @MadMalik_twitter
    @skade i think that would be a good idea
    Dumindu Madunuwan
    @dumindu
    any initial prototype/ selected design for core site? and from where we can see the list of examples which are shown on home page?
    Romain Lepert
    @obust
    Hi, I stumbled upon Kotlin today and the main site seems to share a lot of the ideas mentioned in the dropbox papers https://kotlinlang.org/
    Florian Gilcher
    @skade
    I may be an outlier here, but I hate hero banners.