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杨博 (Yang Bo)
@Atry
:+1:
Sébastien Doeraene
@sjrd
We are working on trying to restore streaming of the SIP meeting.
So the system now says we are live again.
Oron Port
@soronpo
Was there a continuation of the live broadcast? I don't find the second part on Youtube
Oron Port
@soronpo
@darjutak
darjutak
@darjutak
@soronpo there was bunch of minutes I had to shave off, because of the interruption. As the edits are done, I will put it back on, and say it here too
darjutak
@darjutak
@soronpo it's up online
Oron Port
@soronpo
10x. Only ~7 min?
darjutak
@darjutak
that's how long we had left
I just cut the part we were trying to connect ~3 min at the beginning
Dale should have his notes up very soon
f4x15
@f4x15
Hi, everyone!
How can I view brief summary a class/object?
When I go to old version of the documentation I see: "Value Summary" "Method Summary", "Methods inherited from..." etc. (https://www.scala-lang.org/api/2.7.7/scala/io/BufferedSource.html).
But then I go to the new version of documentation I view big sheet of members (and deprecated too). How I can get structured summary a class/object? Thanks.
Oron Port
@soronpo
@f4x15 you want the scala/scala channel
f4x15
@f4x15
sorry, I am mistake)
darjutak
@darjutak
SIP November 2019 minutes published here: https://docs.scala-lang.org/sips/minutes-list.html
SIP June 2019 minutes also added to the list
Next SIP meeting 18th December 2019 at 5 PM CET
Martijn Hoekstra
@martijnhoekstra
Really happy to see so many minutes coming through
darjutak
@darjutak
<3
Guillaume Martres
@smarter
Rob Norris
@tpolecat
is there a link to the agenda somewhere?
(whether there's a link idk offhand)
Rob Norris
@tpolecat
thanks!
darjutak
@darjutak
Happy New Year Everyone! We are happy to be back!
Here we go:
Thanks to Dale, we have December SIP minutes ready
I am working on getting the ScalaDays program ready, but for that we need more submissions in the next 10 days
CFP closes on the 17th Jan, please submit and spread the word
Oron Port
@soronpo
Great summary!
Seth Tisue
@SethTisue
👏 to @dwijnand for volunteering to do the SIP minutes
I'm enjoying reading about myself in the third person
"Seth comments that he find the whole thing so questionable... "
Dale Wijnand
@dwijnand
:smile: I had to write myself in third person too: "Dale states how it seems there aren’t any good ergonomics for using a value of type A | Null."
matrixbot
@matrixbot
posco If we had a Nullable[A] type which is opaque type Nullable[A <: NonNull] = A | Null and some in-line functions on Nullable then it would be pretty usable.
posco But I forgot where things landed if there is way to write A <: NonNull
Rob Norris
@tpolecat
@dwijnand there aren't any good ergonomics for working with union types in general … I think they're going to lead people astray design-wise.
It's spiritually satisfying to have the dual with intersections but I fear what users are going to do with them.
Dale Wijnand
@dwijnand
Yeah, it was a poorly phrased comment. I meant: I can haz unboxed option, plz?
So I meant Option without the boxing cost, not ergonomics...
Rob Norris
@tpolecat
Right, ok.
Dale Wijnand
@dwijnand
@posco: that would be the same as Kotlin's elvis operator and confuse Some(None) with None.
Rob Norris
@tpolecat
Oh, sorry, this discussion is off-topic here. I just realized we're in the center channel.
But I think we're done, I understand what you mean ;-)
(Nullable[Null] isn't a type due to the UB constraint so could you confuse them?)
Dale Wijnand
@dwijnand
Just checked the Dotty repo, and there is no NonNull type, so....
Ichoran
@Ichoran
@tpolecat - I imagine people will either match at runtime, if they don't keep track of the type information, or write things like foo[A <: String | Int](a: A).